MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #31 Retrial

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lets say there was a fight and someone else killed Jon..okay so it's manslaughter. Do you mean to tell me all these people lied and got involved in an elaborate covered up so that 1 LE associate wouldn't be charged in an accidental death that happened during a drunken confrontation? So that
there wouldn't be a civil suit filed against the home owners? That's a huge ask. I can see a motive here but I can't see all these people supporting this and lying all this time.

mOO
Several of the LE involved are directly bonded and/or related. I, personally IMO, believe that they probably ganged up on him. I don't believe only one man killed JOK. I believe he confronted them about KR's association with others while in a relationship with him and was beaten and killed in a confrontation. I then believe the dog jumped in. If the killer and Proctor and others had a specific relationship with one of the "higher-ups", it's easy to imagine the LE brotherhood supporting each other; especially if they were told, as Dever was, "your job depends on what you say" ---- her words. Corruption is abundant in a small close-knit community like LE. JMO.
 
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you haven't heard that people thin KR is being framed and that Jon was in a fight inside the house?

okay. mOO
I believe that is EXACTLY what happened.
 
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Dr. Russell is an impressive and highly experienced expert. She came across well and single-handedly gave the jury plenty to consider — unlike the CW's entire case. JMO.
 
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I think a blind test is in order -
Let’s see if Dr. Russell can correctly name the cause of similar looking injuries. Some by dogs and some by other things and let’s see if she gets them right

IMO
 
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Dr. Russell is an impressive and highly experienced expert. She came across well and single-handedly gave the jury plenty to consider — unlike the CW's entire case. JMO.
According to her.
I think she inserted herself and she’s her biggest fan.

IMO
 
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doesn't the jury react badly to him asking the same thing over and over when it is not even about the evidence, just her opinion about a hypothetical other expert with less degrees?
You would think!
 
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So Dr Russell sought out someone, a prosecutor she knew was “friends” with the defense in CALIFORNIA and would pass on her information & willingness to be involved in this high profile case - then used this as an opportunity to advertise her services

Interesting IMO
I don't think it was to advertise. She was a former police woman herself. She wanted to help true justice prevail for both Karen and John. She has been a doctor for over 30 years and her knowledge is extensive. She knows an animal attack when she sees it. She's is smart, kind, and personable. I believe the jury will connect to her as genuine.moo
 
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According to her.
I think she inserted herself and she’s her biggest fan.

IMO

She’s an expert either way even if she’s her own biggest fan. And I bet she wasn’t paid $400,000 for her opinion.
 
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In mine too! She has an incredibly impressive resume and work experience. And hey, when you know you’re good, why play bashful? MOO
All that and she can’t write her own professional report

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According to her.
I think she inserted herself and she’s her biggest fan.

IMO
Good for her. I would be too if I had achieved as much. It's refreshing to see those who are actually experts, take pride in their work. That attitude and behaviour leads to doing things correctly, unlike the Canton police dept. JMO.
 
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I watched her testimony in bits and pieces and just watched it in whole when I got home. I felt like her superiors were the ones who strong-armed her into changing her testimony.

I am surprised at how obnoxious she was on the stand. She was defiant when she didn’t need to be. All the non-answers regarding cameras in the sallyport weren’t needed.
I agree. I think she hurt the CW immensely. She thought she was so smart with her sn̈arky replies, but it only revealed her ugliness to the jury and her allegiance to the corrupt LE brotherhood. Moo
 
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Dr. Russell reminds me of Alyce LaViolette

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He’s actually being nicer than I thought he’d be. I mean, he insinuated that she, after a successful career and retirement, was using the Karen Read case to launch a new career in expert testimony… but at least he didn’t yell it! 😂
After this case, it will be Brennan who needs to launch a new career. Moo
 
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I don't think it was to advertise. She was a former police woman herself. She wanted to help true justice prevail for both Karen and John. She has been a doctor for over 30 years and her knowledge is extensive. She knows an animal attack when she sees it. She's is smart, kind, and personable. I believe the jury will connect to her as genuine.moo
All she did was validate, as a long time expert, what everyone else can see as painfully obvious, that JOK was attacked by a dog. IMO
 
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