MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

[Warwick7]

When crossing a medical expert with pointless background facts, and where you allege injuries had to be from a taillight, it is probably best not question her in a manner that walks into testimony in which she says the injuries could not have come from a taillight followed by an explanation why that is the case.

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[Warwick7]

Brennan is doing a very good job of bolstering Dr. Russell. The problem is she is a defense witness with an opinion, that if credited, substantially damages his case.

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[Alcina]

The judge will not dismiss but Alessi is on fire about this DNA information. Wow.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Alessi just moved for a motion to dismiss with prejudice. He says Brennan intentionally brought up the dog DNA for the first time in open court today. He says the defense has not mentioned DNA at all.

He says there was no meeting or transcript where the DNA has been discussed.

 

[waldojabba]

Alessi on FIRE

 

[Warwick7]

Acute grief reaction. Yikes. She even offered Brennan an out, asking if he wanted the explanation. He said yes. And she gave it. Just brutal cross examination.

(Brutal for prosecution.)

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[nodamselindistress]

And we all know the Judge will side with CW

 

[bobbymkii]

And we all know the Judge will side with CW

To be fair - asking the judge to dismiss the entire case WITH prejudice is an enormous ask!

 

[Derph]

He literally walked her into providing a rational medical explanation for the alleged ‘I hit him’ comments LOL. I don’t think he knew how well she knows her stuff.

So now, the jury has heard that ‘I hit him’ is a magical statement that appears months later in Jen and Katie’s testimony. And they just heard ‘even if she DID say I hit him, it doesn’t actually mean she hit him’. Amazing.

 

[rescuemom]

Asked and answered move on Mr Bennen

 

[kuromiiiilove]

To be fair - asking the judge to dismiss the entire case WITH prejudice is an enormous ask!

What a mess. But Alessi is right. There are some bells that cannot be un-rung, IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

Yet, the alleged "I hit him" in in NONE of the grand Juries.

Karen states the the Karen Clip, in her own words, that she said it- she only took issue to how many times she said it.

IMO

 

[Alcina]

And we all know the Judge will side with CW

After the break we can all sit back and watch the Judge rule for the CW.

 

[waldojabba]

A good follow up question by Brennan about if this grief reaction occurs immediately after the traumatic event and lasts for months/ year later when giving interviews to tv.
Dr Russell smiles and says she hasn't seen that.

She also indicated that grief is NOT linear ( paraphrasing ) and everyone is different so yes it could go on for years

JMO

 

[Derph]

To be fair - asking the judge to dismiss the entire case WITH prejudice is an enormous ask!

This case should never had been brought forth to begin with.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Linda7NJ, testimony from forensic scientists analyzed samples from John's clothing and found dna profiles present.

Two key findings related to different blood samples on JO's clothes were:

One stain on his sweatshirt had dna from both JO and an unknown individual.

Multiple places on JO's jeans were analyzed, and some were found to contain dna from two or even three individuals, with one contributor being exponentially more likely to be O'Keefe than anyone else.

The forensic scientists stated that they could not identify the other dna contributors on JO's clothing. They had to consede during testimony they couldn't because LE never took blood/dna samples from those who were in that house that night.

No where does it state the DNA for two individuals was blood. It wasn’t. It was touch DNA that could be from anywhere and anyone
IMO.

 

[PamCake]

I hate that my handle is just wanna help. I joined during a local missing girl case (knew some of the people related to people in the case and lived in the town) so at the time/ in that case, i was helpful other cases, not so much

So help me out here. I didn’t watch trial 1. Why can’t they say FBI? I find it ridiculous they have to say “other law enforcement agency” and i find it hilarious that Ms. Devers is the one who let it slip by saying FBI.

What makes the FBI get involved in some cases and not others. If i was a juror I’d be like wait what- are we going to get to hear from the FBI? I’m so confused by this.

Is the FBI investigating the misconduct of local LE and letting them hang themselves further during the second trial? I don’t understand what they are doing.

I get what you're saying here. Last trial the FBI's case was still ongoing, so that's why it was not allowed to be mentioned. It's all still a total mystery. We still don't know the exact details of their investigation. I also think it's strange that the jurors weren't told that this is a second trial, but that has been unveiled during testimony, just like the FBI was with Devers. The court decides what the jurors can and cannot know.

 

[waldojabba]

After the break we can all sit back and watch the Judge rule for the CW.

yes a forgone conclusion that the Judge will side with Brennan
But she needs to base it on something ( I am so naive)- so Alessi has to be wrong about it not being introduced ?
Not sure there is any way to split the pie here
Very dramatic but imo very important to keep the snake Brennan in check
JMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

I've always wondered if the pig was from dog saliva, from eating dog food/treats that had pork in them. Just a thought.

Pig DNA doesnt cancel out dog DNA -

IMO

 

[Younger Sister]

After the break we can all sit back and watch the Judge rule for the CW.

100% without a doubt..........