MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

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The issue appears to be not whether TB made the threats, but foundational because Lucky says he didn't know about them. Which seems a very clever answer.

The whole thing is a disgrace and I hope they get it in somehow on rebuttal.

IMO
But you are missing that he told what happened before the TB comments ever occured.
 
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The issue appears to be not whether TB made the threats, but foundational because Lucky says he didn't know about them. Which seems a very clever answer.

The whole thing is a disgrace and I hope they get it in somehow on rebuttal.

IMO
Lucky would rather be at home with his dog.IMO
No link,
 
  • #783
The issue appears to be not whether TB made the threats, but foundational because Lucky says he didn't know about them. Which seems a very clever answer.

The whole thing is a disgrace and I hope they get it in somehow on rebuttal.

IMO
His wife had passed away recently. Does anyone really expect that Lucky’s scouring the internet looking to see what folks are saying about him? Moo.
 
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The issue appears to be not whether TB made the threats, but foundational because Lucky says he didn't know about them. Which seems a very clever answer.

The whole thing is a disgrace and I hope they get it in somehow on rebuttal.

IMO
knowing about them or not... Lucky had already talked to someone. Probably why he was "aggravated", he had no obligation to tell anyone, especially media/blogger, that he had already spoken to someone and "did the right thing", so yep, an article, online campaign or whatever implying he hadn't, would be aggravating.

JMO
 
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Did Karina Kolokithas say she had been a pharmacist for 30 years?

Note to self: I need to start taking better care of my skin.
 
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While it's interesting to wonder why HB agreed to take this job, I'm more curious to know why the Norfolk DA chose him to be a special prosecutor.
 
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Oops
 
  • #791
While it's interesting to wonder why HB agreed to take this job, I'm more curious to know why the Norfolk DA chose him to be a special prosecutor.
I don't know if I should let missy1974 take lead chair or I should.
She really good .
great question
 
  • #792
Yes. Literally:

Davis had words of admiration for Bulger co-counsel Hank Brennan: “He put up a good fight. He’s a good attorney I’d hire him in a second.”

He wasn’t good enough though was he
 
  • #793
This video with JOK is sad. Karina is the one with her back to the camera, wearing an awesome winter coat, she is talking to Karen.

CA, BH and BA standing in a huddle. Chris Albert grabs BH arm and gives it a shake. Twice. BH makes a quick motion towards JOK with his left arm as if to summon him over. Like get over here. It’s a strange dynamic going on between them. (This is how I interpret it, others may see it differently.)
 
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Yes he was just a good decent regular guy trying to do the right thing/ Is that so hard to fathom ?

Good will always win - it just sometimes take more time than I'd like ( fingers crossed)

I know some people want a Guilty verdict bc she's unlikable and MAYBE she is GUILTY - thats not how the courts or our system works here - at least for now - in America - you need to prove it - there are those ole pesky standards you have to meet.

And if they cannot find her Guilty with all the cheating and lying - well just what does that tell you.

Reasonable doubt is riddled through out this whole case in an enormous fashion

JMO
RBBM. Totally with you on all this. Just regarding what I bolded, I wanted to say that personally I don't even find her unlikeable ( not that if a juror did develop such a feeling they should decide on guilt on that basis as you say).
 
  • #795
Watching the Waterfall footage and seeing John living, breathing, with his whole life ahead of him, I find myself thinking what is in store for him before very long and find myself getting choked up.

It's just so awful.

RIP John
 
  • #796
When they were leaving Karina said JMC told Karen “You’re coming with me” in an off putting way, but Karen went with JOK. JMC wanted them to go to the Alberts.

She said Karen did not seem drunk at all and she was not worried at all about her driving.

Karina is done, Brennan has no cross.
 
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His wife had passed away recently. Does anyone really expect that Lucky’s scouring the internet looking to see what folks are saying about him? Moo.
Definitely don’t see him googling his name with JOK, unlike Jen McCabe. IIRC, didn’t she google herself within the first 48 hours?
 
  • #798
This video with JOK is sad. Karina is the one with her back to the camera, wearing an awesome winter coat, she is talking to Karen.

CA, BH and BA standing in a huddle. Chris Albert grabs BH arm and gives it a shake. Twice. BH makes a quick motion towards JOK with his left arm as if to summon him over. Like get over here. It’s a strange dynamic going on between them. (This is how I interpret it, others may see it differently.)
Seems CA wanted to make SURE that BH helped get John to Alberts...as did JenMc.

Was it Jen that was talking to CA as well just before they all left?
 
  • #799
It is half day for the jurors today, wondering if they have some hearings to do this afternoon?

A lot of motions have been filed in the last week.
 
  • #800
I am rewatching the testimony...

Jackson showed him the tail light going onto the tow truck.. only sharing the picture to show that light does NOT look like it has 'caked on snow' (or broken lol)

about 6:15:00ish on todays link.



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Imo it's damning video as shown during Officer Barros' direct and is supportive of his testimony. In contrast to the Meadows 5.07am video, the tow truck video is in broad daylight too. I think Brennan just tried to distract the jury from it in cross. The jury can't unsee it though. Imo that video and Barros' testimony is reasonable doubt enough, but it joins all the rest already effectively established. This coming straight after Dr Russell was good strategy.
Jmo
 
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