MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

[keek]

I agree. In reviewing the prior trial testimony, it was very telling how there were several witnesses that somehow managed to get into their testimony how Nicole was cleaning that night as soon as she returned from the bar, and in fact is "always" cleaning. IMO it appears to be the result of prior conversations agreeing to try to get that info into the testimony of several people.

No question to cover any bleach smell question, detergents. It's Raining Men song to the 'girls' is also very telling, 'so funny' they have to show everyone alll the time. Guarantee is was up very loud, right Jen? IMO

 

[waldojabba]

For all our Mass posters...

This cost around 50k for the defense.

The CW paid more than 300k.. I would be very very angry.

JMO

Definitley - considering the P also had the option to use the ARCCA report for free from the feebs
It just is more salt in the wound for us in Norfolk County
I hope the media hammers the economics home
jmo

 

[jepop]

the mass of the body rotated, was not projected. Consistent with Wolfe's experience.

I'm not watching right now. Has the tail light broken into 47 pieces yet and bitten and scratched his arm in a symmetrical, parallel marks pattern?

 

[missy1974]

I thought they searched the road first and found a single piece of red plastic and some bar glass.

Then later they returned to search the grass with the leaf blowers to find the rest of the taillight, the bar glass, his cap, and shoe?
Is this not correct?

The pics I’ve seen are not good enough to make a map or determine how far items are from each other or where JOK was located. There may not be any of this type of evidence?

IMO

the leaf blower was early morning. They did NOT find any tail light pieces.

It was later that day that the SERT team came back and found a few pieces, the hat, the shoe.

The scene was NOT secured during the day, just an FYI.

 

[AngTxGal]

the mass of the body rotated, was not projected. Consistent with Wolfe's experience.

Of course, the body would rotate and not project if only the arm was impacted. Makes sense, the force is unbalanced so the body would spin.

I’ve seen people speculating that JOK could have been flung up into the air.
Nope- pretty sure the arm could come off of the body before it could lift the body off the ground- wow what damage that shoulder and elbow would suffer.

Imagining the living body damage of these impacts is sickening

IMO

 

[waldojabba]

No question to cover any bleach smell question, detergents. It's Raining Men song to the 'girls' is also very telling, 'so funny' they have to show everyone alll the time. Guarantee is was up very loud, right Jen? IMO

good poinit @keek
Make it very loud so whatever was happening in perhaps the basement could not be heard
I had not thought of that
JMO

 

[missy1974]

I'm not watching right now. Has the tail light broken into 47 pieces yet and bitten and scratched his arm in a symmetrical, parallel marks pattern?

The tail light has NOT left any bite marks yet.

We are on Test F - 29mph

 

[missy1974]

Test F - 29mph

wow, look at the damage!

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

@missy1974 Thank you for posting all the updates/images.

 

[missy1974]

I see now why the CW went from hit him to side swiping him.

The diffuser specifically, more damage in Karen's SUV then in the last test.

 

[missy1974]

@missy1974 Thank you for posting all the updates/images.

your welcome! I am going to be scrambling to pack shortly haha but I am glued to my laptop at the moment!

 

[themonk]

I need brain bleach now.
Ew.
IMO.

Nicole Albert: I got you

 

[Younger Sister]

i'm surprised she just hasn't chimed in herself to ASK the CW if they would like to object.. She IS a ;member of their team, obviously

IMO it is almost like she sustains before we even hear the objection.

 

[missy1974]

None of the testing resulted in holes or anything on the hoodie.

 

[missy1974]

ohhhh Jackson is done with Wolfe.. going for lunch!

 

[waldojabba]

I'm not watching right now. Has the tail light broken into 47 pieces yet and bitten and scratched his arm in a symmetrical, parallel marks pattern?

almost time for lunch and nothing yet @jepop
Dr Wolfe is saying that damage to Lexus is inconsitent with striking someone
Then Brennan at 130
jmo

 

[Anniesflowers]

Why couldn't the CW bring a witness to testify to science like this?

Moo…Because they’d get the same or very similar results to what Dr. Wolfe is testifying to right now, which would be abhorrent to a prosecutor who wants a guilty verdict and not justice! . Shameful.

 

[Bethlamb16]

Moo…Because they’d get the same or very similar results to what Dr. Wolfe is testifying to right now, which would be abhorrent to a prosecutor who wants a guilty verdict and not justice! . Shameful.

Defense should rest now! IMO!

 

[Wishbone]

None of the testing resulted in holes or anything on the hoodie.

This bears repeating!!!!
None of the testing resulted in holes or anything on the hoodie.

 

[missy1974]

I do believe that the defense wants the jury to marinate on this testimony for the weekend. Great strategy IMO