MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

[mzmarymac]

"My WIFE???" How dare Brennan go there....Unreal

 

[ShadyLady]

Throughout the whole case the CW put on and continuing with some of the defense witnesses that backfired for them. It's well established what my thoughts are. MO

Are you talking about the alleged information that "Jen told someone that there was video of Karen hitting John"? The allegation that made into various new outlets? That proved to be false...

 

[mzmarymac]

What a joke this is trying to impeach this clearly credible and reliable witness.

 

[acutename]

Brennan- the guy did not read Rentschler's foot notes.
accept it.
he is so argumentative about every little thing. can only imagine
the jury not liking him.

 

[Seattle1]

Requesting OT records from MA LE doesn't mean you are going to receive these records.

To be clear, on Jan 29, 2022, Officer Dever, and others were placed on mandatory OT until released from duty, per testimony by LT Gallagher.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1930655470336811019

 

[justwannahelp]

What witness? Not one person claims to have seen it happen.

And not one person saw a body in the yard until 6am

 

[LaineyJ]

dr Wolfe: “you’re shaking your head” *smirks*

 

[rescuemom]

Hmmm…..

IMO, Ms Dever was primarily called by the d to establish that she saw MP and YB at the sally port. She did. Suspicious in and of itself. No matter what else followed.

 

[AngTxGal]

If I'm a juror I'm thinking yep, you just showed an arm breaks a taillight. How it breaks, the exact pattern, depends on where the arm hits.

Dr Wolfe did not demonstrate to me that a dummy arm would react in the same way as a human arm, in terms of movement against jagged broken edges and causing damage to fabric.

He did demonstrate to me how John would have spun around and left his shoe behind, in test E.

Dr Wolfe compared apples and oranges, using an arm dangling on a string, and a dummy which he did not show reacts in the exact same way as a body with muscles. He showed bias when he said the results were inconsistent with the damage seen on Read's car, meaning the arm didn't hit in the exact same spot and therefore the exact same pattern of breakage was not replicated.

I've seen plenty of video now to show that an arm breaks a taillight at lots of different speeds. I don't think Brennan needs to do much work this afternoon.

JMO

Jurors may have bias and choose the expert they connect with or the one that confirms what they already thought- then it doesn’t matter what the expert says.
If a juror thinks everything can be reconstructed identically with 100% accuracy and should show identical results- neither expert would convince them of anything.

I think most jurors will note that Wolfe’s representation was better than Welcher’s. But a better and more convincing model can be misleading. I also think Wolfe comes across as capable and relatable, and Welcher at times seemed pretty full of himself.
Wolfe seemed to discount aspects that I thought were common sense important. Some experts can’t relate to regular people- to be an expert witness you have to be able to think that regular citizens- and be open to their thoughts. He seemed to be saying- this is right because I say so. Don’t look behind the curtain too closely.
Wolfe will sway some because he seems to be a likable smart good looking young man.
We are human and biased by nature.

What video are you referring to that shows that an arm breaks a taillight at lots of different speeds?
If you are referring to ARCCA’s modeling- then you think they were able to model this well enough to make conclusions?

All ARCCA tried to find out is…
What happens when something with the same mass as a human arm at various locations that line up with impacting the taillight, at various speeds- does to the taillight and the clothing.
His physics was absolutely sound- from what I can infer. Are there better tests and more tests and more materials and more angles that could be tested? Yes- always. At some point it is overkill- you are past the point of diminished returns.

Products we use all the time are tested in a manner similar to what ARCCA showed- that is how we know the limits of items we use every day.
Everything from dog chew toys, bikes, bridges, child safety seats, mini blinds, swimming pool ladders, lawn chairs, and on and on and on are tested using these kinds of modeling tests. When they fail- they are recalled. Consumer Reports does this regularly and publishes it so citizens can choose the best products. The science to do these sorts of tests isn’t new- or novel. They can because they have a budget of over $30 million, paid for by subscribers.

Good Morning America- Consumer Reports

I think both groups would be able to say more if they had a measure of the location and size of the debris field- but that wasn’t collected.

Wow, didn’t realize this was so long. I type fast

IMO

 

[Alcina]

Brennan is so rude and trying way too hard to discredit Dr. Wolfe. It's not working. I'm sure the jury is noticing Brennans snarky attitude and desperation.

 

[geevee]

oh look.. a test dummy!

Tests A and B were done in the lab

Test C and D were suspended arm and car

Test E and F dummy and car.

I'm about 2 hours back, just finishing the 29 mph testing. Loving how informative and concise Dr. Dimples is, and his oh-so-thorough tests.

 

[Maat99]

There is no “body position” if there is no impact - what is so hard to understand

 

[Bethlamb16]

Brennan is so rude and trying way too hard to discredit Dr. Wolfe. It's not working. I'm sure the jury is noticing Brennans snarky attitude and desperation.

This is such an understatement. Considering the prosecution's expert blue paint testing he should be bowing down to Dr. Wolfe! LOL & IMO!!!! I mean seriously if he is going to pick this guy apart imagine what the jury must think of prosecutions' expert who IMO doesn't even begin to measure up.

 

[justwannahelp]

Judge Cannone allowing every single objection by Defense it’s comical at this point

BBM. IMO, the bolded statement is not a fact. The CW definitely overcharged with murder 2. That makes me suspicious, too.

GREAT POINT! I researched cases in my state which a person was killed by being run over and it’s never second degree. It’s vehicular manslaughter or at worst vehicular homicide. They want her locked away for good in hopes of her not coming back to “haunt” them.

KR is mentally and emotionally in survival mode. She KNOWS she’s being framed and MUST focus. Maybe if/once hopefully she gets justice for herself, she can seek justice for John. I’d like to think I’d come back swinging. But maybe it’s not worth it in this unjust town….

 

[Seattle1]

Dr Wolfe explained in great detail the scientific reasoning behind purchasing the same clothing to test the effect of an impact on that particular clothing. He didn't do it so that it would help visualize anything for the jury, like the ridiculousness of the CW expert with the blue paint. He accounted for the fiber makeup of the clothing to recreate as many variables as possible. This is actual science. IMO

As expected, Wolfe scientifically matched the fabric content of the sleeve (% cotton/%polyester) and not the embarrassing stunt by the CW!

 

[justwannahelp]

Brennan is so rude and trying way too hard to discredit Dr. Wolfe. It's not working. I'm sure the jury is noticing Brennans snarky attitude and desperation.

Discrediting is all he has left. I was STUNNED by his attempt to discredit Dr. Russell. You can NOT discredit that beyond accomplished woman as a PERFECT expert for this case unless you are totally delusional or a slimy liar.

 

[waldojabba]

Pa day doe cannon.
Oh Hank

 

[Anniesflowers]

Brennan is so rude and trying way too hard to discredit Dr. Wolfe. It's not working. I'm sure the jury is noticing Brennans snarky attitude and desperation.

I really hope the jury sees it.

 

[ShadyLady]

GREAT POINT! I researched cases in my state which a person was killed by being run over and it’s never second degree. It’s vehicular manslaughter or at worst vehicular homicide. They want her locked away for good in hopes of her not coming back to “haunt” them.

KR is mentally and emotionally in survival mode. She KNOWS she’s being framed and MUST focus. Maybe if/once hopefully she gets justice for herself, she can seek justice for John. I’d like to think I’d come back swinging. But maybe it’s not worth it in this unjust town….

Didn't Chris A hit someone?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Just as an aside, it looks like Dr Wolfe also wears a silicone wedding band, off-white and not black. LOL.