MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

[ShadyLady]

OK.....what ever happened to Brennan's "sideswipe"??

Now he is arguing for a head on strike?

 

[WildBill51]

I am new to this forum. After following this case and listening to the witnesses, I have to ask why did this trial make it to court? IMO, Garbage in is Garbage out. The Incompetence of the major Police departments involved in this investigation cries for No Trial since you don’t have a Proper Investigation from the beginning. The Preferential Treatment of the Prosecution by the Judge is so obvious. Clearly, any defendant desiring an Honest and fair Court, would quickly realize they came to the Wrong Court . IMO

 

[Leilei]

Oh wow. I haven’t heard that
Interesting. if true, he probably just had to pick up some trash off the interstate for a weekend
Or maybe lost 5 vacation days

He received six months in jail for killing a 23 year-old student, injuring another, leaving the scene, and being on the run for thirty hours.
SIX MONTHS.
IMO.

 

[Gerald12]

Reading Sue's X posts... the jurors are really only paying attention when it matters. Which is good IMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931057747703062547

More from Sue...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931061523629371678

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931063761005342801

 

[Blonded]

This all seems deeply unscientific to me.

 

[Leilei]

Dever was a patrol officer for Canton PD. She worked the overnight shift on patrol, as she usually. She was asked to stay on for the day shift to cover the desk, and she showed her willingness to be part of the team by doing so. Her double shift ended at 3:45.

The time Dever left the parking lot was captured by Canton PD security cameras; the defense obtained other videos of the parking lot at Canton PD. They could have and most likely did obtain footage of Dever leaving. Why did the defense decide not to present the video footage that would confirm or contradict Dever's testimony. If it established Dever was at Canton PD when the Lexus arrived, they surely would have presented timestamped video to the jury. IMO,

Link to the bolded, please?
TYIA.

 

[ShadyLady]

I am new to this forum. After following this case and listening to the witnesses, I have to ask why did this trial make it to court? IMO, Garbage in is Garbage out. The Incompetence of the major Police departments involved in this investigation cries for No Trial since you don’t have a Proper Investigation from the beginning. The Preferential Treatment of the Prosecution by the Judge is so obvious. Clearly, any defendant desiring an Honest and fair Court, would quickly realize they came to the Wrong Court . IMO

Plenty of us are scratching our heads. Some of us think that there were actions taken by LE to protect someone in power. Question is who....

 

[AngTxGal]

If you don’t get freaked out by graphic images, google German shepherd attack wounds “images”
The immediate screen after you hit search will be numerous images. You can clearly see similarities. Those parallel lines are EVERYWHERE and many appear on the body at the same distance from one another. For example, a set of 2 parallel lines 1/2 inch from one another will appear all over. They don’t appear at different distances. Sometimes they do but could be different teeth, claws, or two attempts next to one another, but for the most part the sets of parallel line wounds are repeated.

I now understand what Dr. Russell meant by common patterns. The wounds just have a look about them on all victims. A “look” i wouldn’t have expected until I saw them for myself.

It’s kind of like recognizing rashes. My son has chronic severe eczema. He’s on Dupixent now, thankfully! But for the first 7 years of his life i had people constantly ask me if it was burn wounds (when he was raw and sometimes had limbs wrapped up in gauze). When he was crusty and dry, people were afraid it was ringworms because the pattern can look similar. I also know immediately when he has impetigo/infection from scratching so much. There’s a tell tale pink orange to the scab and the wounds ooze a peach crust. I recognize impetigo around town on kids at the grocery store - usually on their mouths and nostrils because the nose harbors the bacteria. I always want to say - if your child doesn’t already have, he or she needs a prescription for mupirocin, but hold my tongue.

I did, and I also asked a friend of mine who is a pediatrician.
She said- they are dog bites. The pics she showed me were of children… so you could clearly see the upper and lower teeth marks.
You think you have a tough stomach until you realize the little arms are of real kids. Sad Face

IMO

 

[ShadyLady]

This all seems deeply unscientific to me.

Why please? Did you think prosecution's "experts" were scientific?

 

[Forest_Wood]

I think she already had quite a workout. If any of those possibilities were viable, why didn't the defense look into them and bring them up when questioning Officer Dever? I can only surmise none of those things are what happened in this case. More likely (and maybe backed by evidence?) Officer Dever went home and had a well-earned and sound sleep. AJMO

But your surmisation was not brought up either?

 

[jepop]

OK.....what ever happened to Brennan's "sideswipe"??

Now he is arguing for a head on strike?

Sorry if this comes across as offensive to Brennan, but moo he (Brennan) is really behaving like a muddled fool on this cross. He whines and mumbles whilst Dr Wolfe remains measured and respectful. What a contrast. I think Brennan is coming apart because he knows his case is in the process of being flushed and this is what happens/ how he decompensates when desperate.

 

[missy1974]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931066280796422186

 

[Blonded]

Why please? Did you think prosecution's "experts" were scientific?

I didn’t see the prosecutions experts, only catching testimony on certain days. I just feel like the weight issues are important but I’m a total layman so I’m sure I’m wrong. Just saying how it might seem to a jury.

 

[keek]

BBM. IMO, the bolded statement is not a fact. The CW definitely overcharged with murder 2. That makes me suspicious, too.

Hoping she’d plea as Matt McCabe said If so it’s over. If she fights it then it’s an episode. It’s an episode. Y do you care M? IMO

 

[Wishbone]

Sorry if this comes across as offensive to Brennan, but moo he (Brennan) is really behaving like a muddled fool on this cross. He whines and mumbles whilst Dr Wolfe remains measured and respectful. What a contrast. I think Brennan is coming apart because he knows his case is in the process of being flushed and this is what happens/ how he decompensates when desperate.

I can't even understand most of what brennan is saying. Very ineffective speaking voice IMO

 

[acutename]

If you increase the speed, you can lower the weight and the force is the same.
It is math, Newton’s 2nd law.
Force = mass x acceleration

An interesting relatable test would have been going faster with a lighter object and show how force is calculated.

Maybe a dummy of a bird hitting a headlight?
How many of us have hit a bird going hwy speed? Did our headlight break?

People hit birds on headlights often- our headlights don’t break.

IMO

JO did not have a broken arm or hand bones either.

 

[missy1974]

Brennan is trying to pick bits and pieces that work for their theory.

And he is getting some points across, buttttt things like the speed at the end of that techstream data was still increasing ... does not help their theory at all IMO

 

[acutename]

Sorry if this comes across as offensive to Brennan, but moo he (Brennan) is really behaving like a muddled fool on this cross. He whines and mumbles whilst Dr Wolfe remains measured and respectful. What a contrast. I think Brennan is coming apart because he knows his case is in the process of being flushed and this is what happens/ how he decompensates when desperate.

he is paid the same; win or lose

 

[AngTxGal]

Sorry if this comes across as offensive to Brennan, but moo he (Brennan) is really behaving like a muddled fool on this cross. He whines and mumbles whilst Dr Wolfe remains measured and respectful. What a contrast. I think Brennan is coming apart because he knows his case is in the process of being flushed and this is what happens/ how he decompensates when desperate.

He absolutely is!
If Brennan was actually throwing spaghetti every time he explored a new line of thinking in an attempt to push Wolfe off balance- the floor of the entire courtroom and all the people would be covered in spaghetti!
But from my point of view= none would be on the walls- IMO

 

[jepop]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931066280796422186

Wolfe has told Brennan repeatedly that Rentschler will testify about the wounds and impact forces on the right arm. AJ established on direct that the specialists in different fields work together holistically on the same problem and feedback between each other. Brennan is being deliberately obtuse. Moo