MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

[missy1974]

The problem with having JOK in different positions, if the abrasions need to be from the tail light, then that arm NEEDS to contact it in a specific position for anything else afterwards.

 

[tara83]

Anyone notice Hank keeps changing the speed KR was alleged to have been driving?

 

[Bethlamb16]

The problem with having JOK in different positions, if the abrasions need to be from the tail light, then that arm NEEDS to contact it in a specific position for anything else afterwards.

I feel like Brennan by this line of questioning is calling his own expert out and making his expert look worse as Dr. Wolfe did so much more than his expert. Very strange to me. Brennan's voice is also so annoying! So whiny and accusatory! IMO!

 

[jepop]

he is paid the same; win or lose

If he loses his reputation is affected and I think that matters to him. He already has more money than he will ever need imo. It's about status.. moo

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Anyone notice Hank keeps changing the speed KR was alleged to have been driving?

Yes, because they don't know what happened, which is another reason we shouldn't be sitting here watching a murder trial. JMO

 

[AngTxGal]

he is paid the same; win or lose

Brennan needs to learn the difference between these two words, he keeps using them incorrectly and it is giving me a tick.
Precision
Accuracy

IMO

 

[jepop]

I can't even understand most of what brennan is saying. Very ineffective speaking voice IMO

Truly awful

 

[acutename]

I didn’t see the prosecutions experts, only catching testimony on certain days. I just feel like the weight issues are important but I’m a total layman so I’m sure I’m wrong. Just saying how it might seem to a jury.

Wolf says with a 6000 lb car, hitting an 11 lb arm or a 9.3 lb arm is not that different. Different- but not that much. (We do not know the actual weight of JO's arm either- just what most 216 lb men's arms weigh.) He admitted a 5 lb arm could be different but says that the 6000 lb car is an overwhelming force. Imagine trying to stop a 6000 car with your arm- if your arm weighed 1.5 lbs more, would it make a difference?

 

[ShadyLady]

Hoping she’d plea as Matt McCabe said If so it’s over. If she fights it then it’s an episode. It’s an episode. Y do you care M? IMO

Yes, over charge Karen hoping she will take a plea.

 

[missy1974]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931068877024215308

 

[mzmarymac]

Hank is somewhat effectively providing a limited amount of reasonable doubt that there aren't some variations of results with minute changes to variables, but that isn't his job. His job is produce proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he WAS hit by a car - KRs car to be exact, and they still have not done that.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I am gobsmacked by what Brennan is allowed to get away with. He is so rude.

 

[missy1974]

The scuffs on bumper... could be from the accident..

but wait ... don't assume it's from the collision...

(because according to Welcher that was from backing into the Traverse IIRC)

 

[Leilei]

Anyone notice Hank keeps changing the speed KR was alleged to have been driving?

That's happened in this very thread recently.
Goalposts walking all over the field.
IMO.

 

[AngTxGal]

Wolf says with a 6000 lb car, hitting an 11 lb arm or a 9.3 lb arm is not that different. Different- but not that much. (We do not know the actual weight of JO's arm either- just what most 216 lb men's arms weigh.) He admitted a 5 lb arm could be different but says that the 6000 lb car is an overwhelming force. If your arm weighed 1.5 lbs more, would it make a difference?

To answer that question you would have to do the math.
Find out from the manufacturers of the acrylic its strength- there are numbers for all kinds of materials.

Calculate the force
Force = weight of arm x mph of car

If the force of the arm and mph are greater than the force the acrylic can handle- it should break.
If the force of the arm and mph are less than the force the acrylic can handle- it should not break.

If you know the range of where breakage begins at a given speed- and the arm weight difference is out of that range- the weight difference doesn’t matter.

It is a taillight- likely has the strength of a headlight. Makers would not want people breaking head lights ever time they hit small objects when they are going highway speeds.
So there is a threshold of force that light can handle- it is a known.

IMO

 

[missy1974]

I am gobsmacked by what Brennan is allowed to get away with. He is so rude.

I'm trying to listen and ignore the comments/rudeness. Dr. Wolfe is answering respectably and not trying to go outside of his expertise or what he was testing.

Jackson back on redirect already

 

[waldojabba]

Why please? Did you think prosecution's "experts" were scientific?

I was understanding they were responding to Hanks cross.
The presentation was very scientific
IMO

 

[missy1974]

The one test that caused ripping of the sweatshirt... sorry I don't remember which one (it was full on impact) I wasn't at computer when Brennan showed it earlier, so grabbed a snip now.

 

[Wishbone]

The one test that caused ripping of the sweatshirt... sorry I don't remember which one (it was full on impact) I wasn't at computer when Brennan showed it earlier, so grabbed a snip now.



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from road rash....

 

[missy1974]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931071614818591106