MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #33 Retrial

[tara83]

No Judge would grant that.

IMO.

Well a judge who cared about actual justice might.

 

[Wishbone]

No Judge would grant that.

IMO.

I can't say that about an honest judge. JMOO

 

[mrjitty]

Can’t believe the defence decided to instruct the PI about the garage in the last week. What about the carpet the defendant told Vanity Fair she has in storage for testing?

MOO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

No Judge would grant that with prejudice. Obviously he should have just asked for a jury direction but he decided to play to the cameras.


IMO.

It’s called “defending your client”. Sorry that her attorneys didn’t start their case by saying “our client did it and the defense rests”. JMO

 

[waldojabba]

He asked for a mistrial with prejudice. That means the case would not be re-tried. So no, it had nothing to do with wanting any kind of redo.

Its about reserving your rights for an appelate court and also fixing the issue immediately in real time - Anyone who thinks that the D is the desperate party in this case - has not been following the trial with any type of unbiased "eye".
ALL IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

No Judge would grant that with prejudice. Obviously he should have just asked for a jury direction but he decided to play to the cameras.


IMO.

You’re entitled to your opinion that ‘no judge would grant that’, but it doesn’t change the fact that you mistakenly smeared Karen’s defense acting like they wanted a do-over, when that wasn’t the case.

MOO

 

[keek]

Well, hopefully are all GETTING IT, her experience on autopsies and recovery as well of horrific deaths, fragments from the ocean to determine identity for one, that horrible RI fire I remember well of the nightclub for identity and all the causes of deaths of ALL KINDS possible that she listed. She can determine people, she can determine. IMO

 

[detectivewannab]

Any idea what she is going to say?

 

[Angelwatch]

Can’t believe the defence decided to instruct the PI about the garage in the last week. What about the carpet the defendant told Vanity Fair she has in storage for testing?

MOO

What about the carpet? KR is looking under every stone trying to discover what happened at 34 Fairview, something Proctor et al failed to do.

Maybe she collected the carpet before learning about the iphone temps?

 

[ShadyLady]

OMG I was thinking the same thing. I am truly shocked with the stuff this Judge is pulling.

I called it weeks ago when judge started saying case was ahead of schedule so she could cut short the defense.

 

[missy1974]

No Judge would grant that with prejudice. Obviously he should have just asked for a jury direction but he decided to play to the cameras.


IMO.

right.. he didn't argue it so it was on the record for appeal issues if needed.... just for the camera's

If they didn't argue for a mistrial that would be ineffective assistance of counsel IMO

Most arguments are done for the record, that is how it works. JMO

 

[Leilei]

No Judge would grant that with prejudice. Obviously he should have just asked for a jury direction but he decided to play to the cameras.


IMO.

No, he decided to call Brennan out on his attempted deception, as he should. He is fighting for his clients life against a sneaky CW and a biased judge. He's doing his job, and is doing it very well.
What Brennan did was an affront to KR's right to have a fair trial.
If I or one of my loved ones are ever in the position to need an attorney, I would want an Alessi, a Jackson, or a Yanetti, not a failed mob attorney who plays fast and loose with the rules.
IMO JMO and all that jazz.

 

[ShadyLady]

So dear old Yuri who defended Proctor was allowed to talk about what injuries looked like to him but an actual expert can't? Okay sure no bias at all.

She is so predictable....

 

[missy1974]

I missed what happened.. why is the jury gone again?

ETA.. sorry I thought the jury was gone but it looks like she is looking at them while she is testifying.

 

[BUF]

As many of us are so over this judge, can you imagine how the defense must feel?

Always walking on eggshells for Judge Bev……

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

https://www.mass.gov/supreme-judicial-court-rules/canon-2-a-judge-shall-perform-the-duties-of-judicial-office-impartially-competently-and-diligently

I see issues with points 2.2, 2.5, 2.8 especially (A judge shall be patient, dignified, and courteous to litigants, jurors, witnesses, lawyers, court personnel,* …and shall require similar conduct of lawyers, court personnel,* and others subject to the judge's direction and control), and 2.15. All IMO

Interesting @kuromiiiilove ….. and IANAL.

Maybe these matters will also come up in the event an appeal becomes necessary? IMO certain conduct has assuredly been on display in this trial.

And if not, perhaps as a matter of course they will be referred for investigation to the correct MA legal entities and jurisdictions once this trial concludes. After watching several other recent trials or murder cases and following them here in these threads (I.e. Alex Murdaugh, Judge Clifton Newman presiding; Michelle Troconis, Judge Kevin Randolph presiding; Ashley Benefield, Judge Stephen Matthew Whyte presiding), I have been aghast at some of the conduct displayed by the judge and prosecution in this trial. And that also extends to the first trial resulting in a mistrial. MOO

 

[Wishbone]

Any idea what she is going to say?

What doesn't she have to say about her illustrious career. Very impressive. Makes the judge look lacking in her discernment and ruling. MOO

 

[missy1974]

The defense did call a PI to testify to the distance between the end of the driveway to the doors. I didn't even catch his name lol

Thoughts: they needed that in testimony for their closing argument.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Dr Laposata was previously determined to be qualified by a federal judge to testify as an expert on dog bites. There’s no reason she shouldn’t be allowed to testify on them today. She’s dealt with dozens of autopsies that involved dog bites, and uses the same methodology as Dr. Russell. MOO

 

[keek]

The defense did call a PI to testify to the distance between the end of the driveway to the doors. I didn't even catch his name lol

Thoughts: they needed that in testimony for their closing argument.

He was there, he was booted, he was back looking not too sure if he should get comfortable. Was that the only question? Thanks.. IMO