NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #37 Retrial

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You have got to be kidding me. What the heck is happening in this courtroom?!
 
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Someone needs to use this as a case study in how NOT to conduct a trial.
 
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There is a sealed verdict slip?
 
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Why can't anything normal happen in this trial!?
 
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So the jury said they had a verdict gave it to a court officer they alerted everybody to return and then jury came back and said oops just kidding no verdict yet? Somebody in that jury is a wild card imo.
 
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if someone finds one of our x/twitter approved sources explaining what just happened, please post it
 
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What on earth?????
 
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I dont understand. Why has she sealed that?
Because a juror is now disagreeing with the verdict. So they signed off, gave it to the court officer, then someone said they weren’t comfortable with it?
 
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Okay, been here since the very first thread and every single day of the first trial - I read MUCH more than I post. I officially am broken out into hives over this verdict watch. All the stress. All the stress-eating. I have never in my life seen anything like what just went down! Why can nothing about this trial be simple? Just one thing. I can only imagine how depleted Karen must feel, as well as John's family members.
 
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BAC was taken, at 09:08 at Good Samaritan and reported at .093. This presented by Dr. G. Faller, early T2. A forensic scientist Mr. Nicholas Roberts thereafter testified that they projected that back to 12:45 AM and came up with 0.292 which is about 3-1/2 times the legal limit for operating a vehicle. That projection was based on the rate at which a normal person's body processes alcohol such that it declines after your last drink....This was challenged pretty soundly by the defense because it also presumes that there was no subsequent drinking of alcohol; we know KR did not simply return to 1M and pass out in a stupor until near 5:00 AM; her phone records establish considerable activity in that interval.
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On the face of it: at a BAC near 0.3 a person would presumably be stumbling and somewhat incoherent. There has been testimony later in the trial that indicates that was not the case for KR; per witness KK. JMO
There is no question that KR was driving after 5:00 AM and was observed pretty closely by LE and a list of others between 05:20 and 08:00. We have nothing to indicate that she was drinking during that interval....and she was still over .08 at 09:08. That she was OUI from 05:07 to 05:35, give or take, is pretty easy to establish IMO but the indictment itself does not charge that and the evidences presented at this trial do not prove that, nor were they intended to.
Should that be concisely what the jury finds KR guilty of, I believe KR and her defense team will consider that a victory unless the CW and BC try to end run normal practice and penalize KR extraordinarily for that charge. After all, her frame of mind at 05:00 was that something calamitous had happened to JOK and going to his aid was equivalent to an emergency.

MOO where and as applicable
 
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Can a jury have take backs after they’ve already completed the jury form and turned it in?
 
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So they have *a* verdict. But between the court officer notifying judge Cannone and the parties being summoned back, they knocked and said that someone no longer agrees.
 
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At this point, I'm expecting a hung jury and another mistrial.
 
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Apparently the tuna sandwiches for lunch were below par, so some jurors changed their collective minds and decided on a better lunch on Friday.
 
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So there WAS a verdict, and then a mind was changed, so the judge sealed that verdict slip? Is that right?? This is outrageous.
 
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