NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #37 Retrial

[Seni]

The O’Keefe’s are also suing the two bars

Really, on what grounds?

 

[bobbymkii]

The O’Keefe’s are also suing the two bars

I wonder if the OUI conviction helps their suit against CFM and the Waterfall?

 

[kuromiiiilove]

And how many that are actually guilty but get away with murder because they have a dream team.

Hmm, methinks the rate of people stuck with public defenders who don’t have the time, energy or resources to properly defend them is much higher than the rate of people who have multimillion dollar dream teams…

 

[BUF]

Really, on what grounds?

O'Keefe's family sues Karen Read, 2 bars where couple drank

Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe's family filed a lawsuit against Karen Read and two Canton bars where prosecutors said the couple was drinking in the hours before his death.

www.wcvb.com

 

[missy1974]

Important to remember that in a civil trial, after an acquittal, Karen will be forced to testify. If you recall, that is what happened with OJ Simpson. He was acquitted and then the family sued him and won. Huge award that was never paid sadly. But OJ was forced to take the stand, as the 5th Amendment no longer applies.

I hope we get to see the depositions... or bettter yet, the trial. Because all the people there that night will also have to testify

 

[TDoc72]

I think she’d be fine as long as she testifies to the same as anything she’s already said (like in the docs) and then if it’s economically feasible for her, I’d trot in the same medical examiners & ARCCA men to repeat their testimony that he wasn’t hit by a car.

 

[Angelwatch]

Lally ended up getting more votes for charges from the jury than Brennan (outside of simple OUI). He was working without her videos too.

 

[cocomod]

'Former MA prosecutor says jury's decision' is 'devastating blow' for state​

'Jeffrey Abramson, a professor of government and law emeritus at the University of Texas at Austin and former assistant district attorney in Massachusetts, called the jury's decision "a total repudiation of the prosecution's case."

"It shows the jury thought the prosecution had given them nothing. Just absolutely nothing," Abramson said. "After three years, I think it's a devastating blow to the Commonwealth's case."

Abramson said it may have been telling for the jury that Michael Proctor, the former lead Massachusetts State Police investigator on the case, was not called as a witness in the second trial.'

What happens to Karen Read now that she has been found not guilty of murder?

Karen Read was accused of killing her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe. A jury acquitted her on second-degree murder.

www.usatoday.com

Yes!! The CW did waste soooo much time, energy, and $$$ taxpayer dollars to continue to pursue Karen after they were given a report from the FBI saying he was not hit by the Lexus. It was a shame and a sham!

 

[cocomod]

Important to remember that in a civil trial, after an acquittal, Karen will be forced to testify. If you recall, that is what happened with OJ Simpson. He was acquitted and then the family sued him and won. Huge award that was never paid sadly. But OJ was forced to take the stand, as the 5th Amendment no longer applies.

True, but the reports can be even more damning. I would imagine that they will actually be able to say that the accident reconstruction came from the FBI in civil court. I also imagine that they will have more latitude with other evidence that this "judge" didn't allow but clears her.

 

[NavySubMom]

ahh yes! I heard the guilty before the Not guilty on #3 I think? Seems kinda fitting for this to end in a messed up way too lol

The whole reading of the Verdict was a mess, IMO. Very confusing to listen to.

 

[mzmarymac]

I wonder if the OUI conviction helps their suit against CFM and the Waterfall?

Very little as they would still need to prove that she hit him and killed him, but only need a 51% proof instead of BARD.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I really hope the O’Keefe family backs away from the McCabes and Alberts. Take a step back and think about so much of what was said in court. Those people in that house on that night are the ones that know what happened. They should have called 911 but chose not to.

 

[cocomod]

Very little as they would still need to prove that she hit him and killed him, but only need a 51% proof instead of BARD.

But, in this case as in the first case, it was 100% from the jury that she didn't kill him. I have faith she will win this one too.

 

[HarmonyE.]

I wonder if the OUI conviction helps their suit against CFM and the Waterfall?

It should have no impact. She wasn't convicted of hitting him and her insurance company as well as those for the two bars now have an incredible amount of investigative info to fight the case. John clearly wasn't hit by a car. I also doubt Paul's McAlbert pals want to take the stand. Yet again.

 

[missy1974]

I wonder if the OUI conviction helps their suit against CFM and the Waterfall?

I think that depends... the jury had leeway on the timing. They may have thought she was drunk at 5am and not at 12:45am. It may depend on what the jurors say, if they say anything?

I don't believe there is proof she was drunk when she left there. I don't even think anyone that was there said that?

 

[cocomod]

It should have no impact. She wasn't convicted of hitting him and her insurance company as well as those for the two bars now have an incredible amount of investigative info to fight the case. John clearly wasn't hit by a car. I also doubt Paul's McAlbert pals want to take the stand. Yet again.

True! I would hope for a more honest and fair-minded judge as well.

 

[Angelwatch]

KR should title her movie, "The Episode."

 

[Izzylizzy]

I wonder if the OUI conviction helps their suit against CFM and the Waterfall?

DBM

wrong assumption

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I think that depends... the jury had leeway on the timing. They may have thought she was drunk at 5am and not at 12:45am. It may depend on what the jurors say, if they say anything?

I don't believe there is proof she was drunk when she left there. I don't even think anyone that was there said that?

I would love to hear from jurors whether they convicted on the 12:45 or 5am drive.

 

[Derph]

But, in this case as in the first case, it was 100% from the jury that she didn't kill him. I have faith she will win this one too.

2 juries it you really want to get into it. That's 24 people that were pretty convinced she didn't kill him. It's going to be a climb.