NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Wishbone]

“This is the most challenging case I’ve ever tried in my life,” Jackson told local radio host Howie Carr Thursday. “And we didn’t win because of the process; we won despite the process that was put in place in that Dedham courtroom. It was a travesty, in my view. An absolute travesty.”

‘We won despite the process,’ Karen Read attorney Alan Jackson tells Howie Carr

“This is the most challenging case I’ve ever tried in my life,” attorney Alan Jackson said a day after Karen Read’s murder acquittal.

www.boston.com

 

[cocomod]

Yep, people hate a hard lie. Saying ‘he was never in the house’ could have the subtext of ‘…before that night’. It’s easier to hedge than just tell a flat lie for most people.

Or, he wasn't in the house, he was in the garage. It is interesting that I didn't hear about the garage as a theory until the 2nd trial. Before, I had always believed the basement was the scene. Now... They wouldn't be "lying" if they said he was never in the house.

 

[cocomod]

The McAlberts were on Nightline last night...

Video Friends at the center of the Karen Read trial speak out for the 1st time

The prosecution’s key witness and his friends speak out in an ABC News exclusive following Karen Read’s acquittal.

abcnews.go.com

You know what is interesting? The fact that the CW in the first trial spent about 3/4 of the trial defending this bunch. Then, they tried Karen again. Once again, they spent more time defending this bunch then they took to try to prove their case. That is a travesty!

 

[cocomod]

The McAlberts were on Nightline last night...

Video Friends at the center of the Karen Read trial speak out for the 1st time

The prosecution’s key witness and his friends speak out in an ABC News exclusive following Karen Read’s acquittal.

abcnews.go.com

Such freaking one-sided, soft-ball interviews. Ridiculous! Waste of time! Not fooling anyone!

 

[cocomod]

I'm concerned for Karen in the Civil Trial. And the fact that there is even a civil trial because the state wrongfully charged her is saddening. There is a guy on a social media platform (that they keep trying to ban) who literally shows how the marks on the back of John's head match up with the clasp on the back of his hat, and with the groves on weights in that basement. Maybe that evidence and be researched and used in the civil trial since BC is not in charge there?

You all probably know who she can sue better than I do, but she needs to sue all over the place. To have to sell your home, lose your job, cash in your 401k etc....just to try to keep from getting railroaded into prison is astounding. How would most regular people be able to survive that? We can't...that's what this whole thing is about for everyone outside of that courthouse.

Thank goodness she had a great team and jurors who listened despite BC blocking every objection.

I think it is crazy that she will have to defend herself again. She has the truth on her side; and this time, she can say the words FBI and DOJ. She can turn this on it's head. I wonder if there is any way she could countersue them for the cost to defend herself in this civil case - the trial proved that John was not hit by a car. I know - fantasy thinking...

 

[nightowl1975]

Or, he wasn't in the house, he was in the garage. It is interesting that I didn't hear about the garage as a theory until the 2nd trial. Before, I had always believed the basement was the scene. Now... They wouldn't be "lying" if they said he was never in the house.

I suspect Dr Laposata (sp?) reviewed photos of the scene and suggested the garage step as potentially fitting the wound on the back of his head. I believe she was only part of trial two? Or at least I don’t remember her during trial one.

 

[nightowl1975]

I think it is crazy that she will have to defend herself again. She has the truth on her side; and this time, she can say the words FBI and DOJ. She can turn this on it's head. I wonder if there is any way she could countersue them for the cost to defend herself in this civil case - the trial proved that John was not hit by a car. I know - fantasy thinking...

I absolutely think she ought to sue them as well, or at least like you said, countersue for attorney fees. Something. And you’re also right in saying a civil trial will be far different. Sure, it’s a lower burden of proof, but there’s going to be a VERY different trial happening if the judge is impartial, allows normal evidence to be heard, and of course the whole FBI/DOJ angle isn’t going to help the O’K family.

 

[nightowl1975]

I also think it’ll help in a civil trial that the verdict still has to be unanimous. The jury can be as small as 6 people (not sure if it can be larger?), but I sincerely doubt you’ll find 6 individuals willing to go against the science that says JO wasn’t hit by a vehicle.

 

[KSwizzle]

If the FBI didn't get involved all those texts with Proctor, and getting Proctor's wife a gift, and trashing Read would never have seen the light of day, the whole McAlbert group disgusts me moo

 

[keek]

I wonder if the O'Keefe's will go through with it.. can tell the 'family' will push for it, ever so supportive, but not thinkers. Time will tell. No collision. What is the point then for a 'guilty'. Makes no sense of course. OH I know it's a money grab and to soothe their rage but of course someone in that group should be waking up at this point and tell them, we need to unearth what really happened.
Who knows, maybe B.Higgins will have done his thing by them. Stand off, BA and BH. IMO

 

[missy1974]

Karen must have lawyers already for the civil suit? They should be retaining ARCCA and Dr. Laposata ASAP IMO They won't have to do much more work, just testify for her.

From everything that I can tell so far from the jurors that are talking... they do not believe he was hit by the SUV. They don't think that her SUV caused him to fall where he was and die, they just didn't because of the credible witnesses that testified. Add in a bad investigation, then go after a few that were in the house, use the pictures of the garage, and I don't know how they would find Karen liable.

JMO

 

[bobbymkii]

Karen must have lawyers already for the civil suit? They should be retaining ARCCA and Dr. Laposata ASAP IMO They won't have to do much more work, just testify for her.

From everything that I can tell so far from the jurors that are talking... they do not believe he was hit by the SUV. They don't think that her SUV caused him to fall where he was and die, they just didn't because of the credible witnesses that testified. Add in a bad investigation, then go after a few that were in the house, use the pictures of the garage, and I don't know how they would find Karen liable.

JMO

god forbid anyone ate a ham sandwich in the wrong place at the wrong time

 

[HarmonyE.]

Karen must have lawyers already for the civil suit? They should be retaining ARCCA and Dr. Laposata ASAP IMO They won't have to do much more work, just testify for her.

From everything that I can tell so far from the jurors that are talking... they do not believe he was hit by the SUV. They don't think that her SUV caused him to fall where he was and die, they just didn't because of the credible witnesses that testified. Add in a bad investigation, then go after a few that were in the house, use the pictures of the garage, and I don't know how they would find Karen liable.

JMO

Her auto insurance company will cover the defense of the lawsuit. They'll no doubt be very interested in the ARCCA reports and other info/data.

Same goes for the other defendants (including McCarthy's and the Waterfall bars). If Karen didn't hit John with her vehicle, then there should be no verdict in O'Keefe's favor. Insurance companies being what they are and having complete control of the resolution of lawsuits they are defending, some or all might try to settle out with the estate, however. Ultimately it's their call because it's their money.

With that said, I don't see this as being a contingency case for Paul, which means he'll have to fund the case on his own. No attorney is going is to fork over money for any high end experts on a case like this. And who would Paul call? The Blue Man's conclusions were stupid and Aperture was insanely expensive. I don't see any experts trumping ARCCA either. So at the end of the day, part of Paul's distress here may relate to the fact that his civil case is now worth next to nothing.

 

[missy1974]

In case you all didn't know or aren't watching... Yanetti and Alessi doing an interview together right now on Runkle... it is great!

If you go to you tube and just put in Yanetti and Alessi interview.. it should pop up.

 

[House of Holden]

Love Nicole Albert's comment about having no idea anything was happening until Jen "burst" into their bedroom. Liar. Jen called at 5:07 am, almost certainly to warn them that she couldn't persuade Karen to go to Tom Beatty's house and they'd be coming by. The phone record is clear - they spoke.

And Brian Albert's total non-answer about why he didn't come outside. Despite the fact that so much was going on right under the window of the bedroom he claimed he was in.

I'm hoping the FBI is still lurking in the shadows. And that these awful people don't get away with this crime. The Birchmore case gives me hope that they will not.

Who is Tom Beatty? I’ve only started (obsessively) following this case a few months ago and I don’t recall coming across this name…

 

[HarmonyE.]

Who is Tom Beatty? I’ve only started (obsessively) following this case a few months ago and I don’t recall coming across this name…

A friend of John's from Canton. Both he and his daughter Erin were on the defense witness list for both trials. Erin told her father that Jen McCabe and a friend confronted her after John's death because she had a story about Colin Albert calling her that night for a ride. Jen's friend apparently said some appalling things to the then teenager.

According to Karen, that morning when she called Jen to see if she knew anything about John's whereabouts, Jen said "let's go to Tom Beatty's" but Karen wanted to try to retrace John's steps and return to Fairview.

Some speculate that the answered call between Nicole Albert and Jen at 5:07 am that morning was Jen's heads-up to her sister that Karen wanted to go to Fairview.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

This interview with Alessi and Yanetti is so good! Their kindness and classiness shines through. Ian is asking a lot of good questions, too.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Where was Chris's wife. Hiding? Too emotional for her because of a secret that this group is hiding? Oh I think so.

She may have had another migraine from not enough nutrition maybe, or hanging with her good pal Courtney Proctor.
MOO

 

[HarmonyE.]

She may have had another migraine from not enough nutrition maybe, or hanging with her good pal Courtney Proctor.
MOO

Of all the McAlberts, she's the only one I kind of feel sorry for.

And her referring to Trooper Bukhenik by Turtleboy's disgusting nickname for him - twice! - is one of the most memorable moments of the first trial.

 

[Angelwatch]

Karen must have lawyers already for the civil suit? They should be retaining ARCCA and Dr. Laposata ASAP IMO They won't have to do much more work, just testify for her.

From everything that I can tell so far from the jurors that are talking... they do not believe he was hit by the SUV. They don't think that her SUV caused him to fall where he was and die, they just didn't because of the credible witnesses that testified. Add in a bad investigation, then go after a few that were in the house, use the pictures of the garage, and I don't know how they would find Karen liable.

JMO

I read today that the O’Keefes are asking for 50k in the civil suit. Since Karen will likely be defended by her insurance company, they’ll probably settle. 50k isn’t that much.