NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[LittleSeaTree]

Largely the same info we already know. Looks like Turtleboy is getting a movie too. I don’t remember seeing that.
JMO.

Karen Read signs deal for screen adaptation of sensational murder case

On the heels of her highly publicized acquittal, Karen Read announced she's working on a scripted screen adaptation of her sensational case.

www.boston.com

The McAlberts must be sh*tting themselves!

 

[sunshineray]

The one that was declared not guilty of all serious charges after it was proven her vehicle never hit John? MOO.

The ones falsely accused by suppositions and insinuations with not a shred of evidence to support it, those in the Albert's house that night. MO

 

[Florida_marlin]

The ones falsely accused by suppositions and insinuations with not a shred of evidence to support it, those in the Albert's house that night. MO

The investigators, without justification, failed to investigate people who were known to be with him for several hours that day. They, without justification, failed to investigate the owners of the property where the deceased was found. The investigators made a conscious, albeit, shocking admission that they did not consider anyone else as a suspect, within less that a day after his body was “discovered”. If one doesn’t look, then one will not see. Well, the two trials gave many of us a great look at the doings of this anti-investigation, and we have eyes, so we can see.

 

[missy1974]

The ones falsely accused by suppositions and insinuations with not a shred of evidence to support it, those in the Albert's house that night. MO

Well.. this cannot be 100% true ... because even the judge, who showed some clear bias during this process, allowed them to use the 3rd party culpibility defense. By the end of the CW case though, they didn't even bother because the CW's case was so bad IMO.

But had Brennan paraded all the house party goers in like Lally did in the first trial, they would have been allowed to pursue it further. So, Judge Canonne must have disagreed with you as well.

JMO

Judge Beverly Cannone ruled that Read’s lawyers provided enough evidence to move forward with their claim that Brian Albert and Brian Higgins caused O’Keefe’s death, but they failed to do so for Colin Albert.

Judge allows Karen Read to present 3rd-party defense, but limits who can be accused

Karen Read's lawyers won't be able to accuse a key witness of causing John O'Keefe's death.

www.masslive.com

 

[SteveS]

Despite what some are wanting to claim, the evidence presented (by BOTH sides) proved JOK was not hit by a vehicle. Not by KR's -- nor by anyone else's either.

JOK injuries were NOT consistent with what injuries from being hit by a vehicle look like. Everyone who testified said the same thing, and many had YEARS of seeing injuries from many kinds of things including pedestrians struck by vehicles. OTOH, the injuries to the arm were made by a dog attack, according to everyone who testified about the injuries from BOTH sides. Those are the facts.

The injuries and scene showed he must NOT have died on the lawn. Thats also a fact. How he got there, and who killed him, are unknown.

Once we see that truth, then who killed him and where? I think JOK deserves to have the case pursued.

To me, the obvious place is to look in the house. Do we know that's the answer, before we even look? No -- because no one looked!!! But heck, why not look and see? Take a close look at the people in the house that night (Higgins, McCabe, Albert, etc) who he was going to see, and with the trial offering evidence from both sides pointing to the likelihood he went in the house or garage.

Wait, they even have a dog, known to attack people? Wait, they gave jinky conflicting answers (including lies) and said things that pointed to trying to "get our stories straight"? Wait, they even did odd repair work on the house in areas that would be most likely to be where JOK was killed?

Like I said, we don't know who killed JOK and how and exactly where -- but we do KNOW it was not by KR vehicle (or anyone else's) and it did not happen on the lawn. So follow the evidence.

If the buddies of Higgins, McCabe, Albert, etc want them to EVER be seen as not the killers, then the only way to do it is to investigate, because the prior investigation gave WRONG answers. The fact they are objecting loudly tells me they have lots to hide, but hopefully an investigation will happen, one that this time gives real answers (whatever they may be). I want justice for JOK.

 

[Wishbone]

My opinion only...that won't happen because the person responsible was set free with only a conviction for drunk driving. No others will be charged in the death of Officer John O'Keefe except in civil court. AJMO

KR was found not guilty so she is not responsible for anything.

 

[keek]

KR was found not guilty so she is not responsible for anything.

It’s over and now to unmask the ones responsible which is not KR. Let’s work towards that a/k/a reality and rationality.

 

[Izzylizzy]

1 hour ago.

 

[sunshineray]

The investigators, without justification, failed to investigate people who were known to be with him for several hours that day. They, without justification, failed to investigate the owners of the property where the deceased was found. The investigators made a conscious, albeit, shocking admission that they did not consider anyone else as a suspect, within less that a day after his body was “discovered”. If one doesn’t look, then one will not see. Well, the two trials gave many of us a great look at the doings of this anti-investigation, and we have eyes, so we can see.

There was plenty of justification and it was obvious who had caused JO's injuries and death VERY early on. I also have eyes and ears for what really happened that night and it was all KR's doing. That's what the evidence showed, that's what she said, it's too bad the jurors were unduly influenced by the side show. This is all just my opinion on what really happened during this second trial (or as I like to call it, The Karen Read Show). You, of course, are also entitled to yours.

 

[sunshineray]

Well.. this cannot be 100% true ... because even the judge, who showed some clear bias during this process, allowed them to use the 3rd party culpibility defense. By the end of the CW case though, they didn't even bother because the CW's case was so bad IMO.

But had Brennan paraded all the house party goers in like Lally did in the first trial, they would have been allowed to pursue it further. So, Judge Canonne must have disagreed with you as well.

JMO

Judge Beverly Cannone ruled that Read’s lawyers provided enough evidence to move forward with their claim that Brian Albert and Brian Higgins caused O’Keefe’s death, but they failed to do so for Colin Albert.

Judge allows Karen Read to present 3rd-party defense, but limits who can be accused

Karen Read's lawyers won't be able to accuse a key witness of causing John O'Keefe's death.

www.masslive.com

Not how I saw it at all. There was no evidence to support their SODDI theory so they didn't want to open up a very bad cans of worms for their client.
Judge Cannone was not at all bias during these trials. AJMO

 

[sunshineray]

KR was found not guilty so she is not responsible for anything.

She may need to prove that in civil court and the preponderance of evidence is there against her. AJMO

 

[Dawookie]

She may need to prove that in civil court and the preponderance of evidence is there against her. AJMO

What preponderance of evidence? What evidence will the O'Keefe family have that's not already out there that would show she hit him or somehow caused his death?

 

[keek]

What preponderance of evidence? What evidence will the O'Keefe family have that's not already out there that would show she hit him or somehow caused his death?

Nothing. Opposite has been shown, signed, sealed and DELIVVVVERED. imo

 

[Florida_marlin]

There was plenty of justification and it was obvious who had caused JO's injuries and death VERY early on. I also have eyes and ears for what really happened that night and it was all KR's doing. That's what the evidence showed, that's what she said, it's too bad the jurors were unduly influenced by the side show. This is all just my opinion on what really happened during this second trial (or as I like to call it, The Karen Read Show). You, of course, are also entitled to yours.

No moo here. We all are entitled to our opinions. But facts are facts. Opinions don’t matter in the face of cold hard facts. The fact is, KR didn’t cause his death, and one can’t opinion into being,

 

[justwannahelp]

How did Proctor know about Karen's health issues?????

I think KR had 8 surgeries.

& the women were probably all mad because she was thin. She probably had to defend herself by saying “I have Crohn’s disease.”

I said "if" they considered things other than testimony. That was my point and my opinion.

i didn’t mean to be so snippy. I was in a mood last night. My AC was broken

 

[Warwick7]

She may need to prove that in civil court and the preponderance of evidence is there against her. AJMO

Tsk tsk....KR has legal standing to file a civil lawsuit. She could potentially pursue a civil action against Alberts or McCabes or others. Filing a lawsuit alleging harm caused by them. She is totally in her right to seek compensation for damages.

 

[sunshineray]

What preponderance of evidence? What evidence will the O'Keefe family have that's not already out there that would show she hit him or somehow caused his death?

The evidence I believe the jurors disregarded, in my opinion.

 

[sunshineray]

No moo here. We all are entitled to our opinions. But facts are facts. Opinions don’t matter in the face of cold hard facts. The fact is, KR didn’t cause his death, and one can’t opinion into being,

In my opinion the cold hard facts were ignored and disregarded by that jury. MOO

 

[sapphire blue]

The evidence I believe the jurors disregarded, in my opinion.

What evidence is that exactly? IMO they didn’t disregard the evidence, they took it all into account.

 

[Florida_marlin]

In my opinion the cold hard facts were ignored and disregarded by that jury. MOO

Many of those same jurors who are being disrespected are now saying not only NG, but others need to be investigated. They saw this non-evidence against KR and it was justly repudiated. We can all be happy with and respect clear headed and diligent, hard working jurors.