NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Izzylizzy]

I have not listened to it... But THIS... this is what I said last night. Another poster shared an article about Cox... the guy seems like a good guy and someone that would back her if what she said was the truth and she stuck to her statement to the FBI, it's quite possible she misread the "support".

This story is like the energizer bunny, it just keeps going... and going...

The only reason why it keeps going and going is because the lies keep coming and coming.

I disagree that Cox or anyone else would have backed her if she didn't retract her claims about BH & KB.

imo

 

[Hazelnutty]

The hits just keep on coming !
Brace yourselves for more..... ( imagine dominoes standing up, and falling one by one )
IMO

I'm looking forward to the judge being one of those dominoes.

 

[MrB327]

FAFO!! ...Very Truly Yours, Alan Jackson

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I m really surprised that Cox was seemingly taken aback by the question. Dever put him smack dab in the middle of things and he was so obviously unprepared for questions.

 

[Izzylizzy]

I m really surprised that Cox was seemingly taken aback by the question. Dever put him smack dab in the middle of things and he was so obviously unprepared for questions.

Not only that but it took since June 2nd for anyone to ask Cox about KD's testimony.
I didn't even read in any articles after her testimony, and there were plenty, that the reporter had reached out to Cox's office and have yet to hear back, unless I missed it.
IMO

 

[Florida_marlin]

The Defense said they choose to call Dever as a witness as strategy. They knew what they were doing.

It’s a great strategy that is still working. Not only its effect on the trial, revealing how the corrupt protectionism not only protects those who were at the house that night, but extending it’s tentacles out to even a non involved LE officer who just happens to be a witness hat just happened to be questioned by the FBI. It reinforced to the public, but more importantly the jury, how extensive and corrupt is the “blue wall”.

Secondly. It revealed a weak point to start unraveling the conspiracy. Denver faces the spectre of the LE career flying away. She’s combative. Maybe she’ll say, if I’m going down, I’m taking some #&@&’sh with me!

I know she’s far removed for the core of the folks that were there that night and know exactly what happened, but often, to break you have to start at the outside and work your way in a person at a time.

Go get ‘em!

 

[Izzylizzy]

IIRC:
Devers testified that the Canton/Boston police never contacted/interviewed her and it was the FBI who eventually did in Aug 2023 and she did a "willing interview".
Does anyone know why the FBI wanted to speak with her, had her claim about BH & KB spending a "wildly amount of time" in the sallyport gotten out and reached their ears?

When the media ran with KD's testimony that the defense had threatened her with perjury they left out the part that when KD contacted the FBI to retract her BD&KB claim she never told or filed a report with the FBI that she was threatened by the defense.
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

It’s a great strategy that is still working. Not only its effect on the trial, revealing how the corrupt protectionism not only protects those who were at the house that night, but extending it’s tentacles out to even a non involved LE officer who just happens to be a witness hat just happened to be questioned by the FBI. It reinforced to the public, but more importantly the jury, how extensive and corrupt is the “blue wall”.

Secondly. It revealed a weak point to start unraveling the conspiracy. Denver faces the spectre of the LE career flying away. She’s combative. Maybe she’ll say, if I’m going down, I’m taking some #&@&’sh with me!

I know she’s far removed for the core of the folks that were there that night and know exactly what happened, but often, to break you have to start at the outside and work your way in a person at a time.

Go get ‘em!

I say she should sue the lawyer(s) that advised her for incompetent counsel and a separate suit for whoever gave her the "false memory" defense. lol

I am getting pleasure that she's most likely stewing even more after Cox opened his mouth.

The only thing I see as a possibility is that she'll try to get or be offered a bye-bye settlement with an NDA from the CW /Canton/Boston Police to keep her mouth shut.
imo

 

[shotgun09]

Due to AJ's letter (demand), the spotlight is centered now on the BPD/CPD and the NCDAO. They all must collectively agree, post haste to place Dever on the Brady List. There is no alternative, constitutionally. IMO, the courts will be ( should be ) on high alert for anything other than cooperation in this matter. The world is watching, and the spotlight is very bright. Your move, Cox (Morrissey).

 

[ch_13]

I m really surprised that Cox was seemingly taken aback by the question. Dever put him smack dab in the middle of things and he was so obviously unprepared for questions.

There's no way he was surprised by the question. Given the interest in KR's case and the fallout from Dever's testimony he must have known it was coming.

I don't know why he chose to respond to it in the manner that he did. It would have been better if he had issued a written statement to fully address the issue. Maybe he thought his offhanded comments would put it to rest, but a politician like him should know better.

 

[Forest_Wood]

There's no way he was surprised by the question. Given the interest in KR's case and the fallout from Dever's testimony he must have known it was coming.

I don't know why he chose to respond to it in the manner that he did. It would have been better if he had issued a written statement to fully address the issue. Maybe he thought his offhanded comments would put it to rest, but a politician like him should know better.

I agree with you! He "acted" surprised and confused by the q, however, he obviously knew about the testimony of Dever by his immediate "surprised" responses.
Yes, he seems like a soft-spoken and likeable chap, but I call BS on his vague, aloof answer. "Much ado about nothing".
MOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

They all must collectively agree, post haste to place Dever on the Brady List.

Why must both departments agree? How does that work now to get her placed on the Brady list?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Also, the " I was in Michigan !" statement.
Umm....what?

Dude is in over his head....IMO

His statement about being in Michigan was weird. So what if he lived in Michigan when the murder happened. He was Chief of Boston Police in August 15, 2022, a mere 6.5 months after the event. That comment made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Deflection.
MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Due to AJ's letter (demand), the spotlight is centered now on the BPD/CPD and the NCDAO. They all must collectively agree, post haste to place Dever on the Brady List. There is no alternative, constitutionally. IMO, the courts will be ( should be ) on high alert for anything other than cooperation in this matter. The world is watching, and the spotlight is very bright. Your move, Cox (Morrissey).

Where did you get the need for the "They all must collectively agree".
I had read it's the prosecutor who decides.

 

[shotgun09]

Why must both departments agree? How does that work now to get her placed on the Brady list?

I am just insinuating that if neither of the LE departments does not agree, and refuses placing her on the Brady List request, it will only increase the citizens of MA's complete mistrust in LE and the courts.
As AJ said in his letter, 'every case she has been involved in past, present and future can now be questioned" The light is shining on them, they really need to act in a proactive way.

Not exactly sure how they go about it legally and officially... on paper and through the courts. Probably starts with another 'letter'. IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

This morning from Greece.

 

[Izzylizzy]

There's no way he was surprised by the question. Given the interest in KR's case and the fallout from Dever's testimony he must have known it was coming.

I don't know why he chose to respond to it in the manner that he did. It would have been better if he had issued a written statement to fully address the issue. Maybe he thought his offhanded comments would put it to rest, but a politician like him should know better.

Maybe he was surprised that anyone dare ask him? lol

Cox should have issued a short, simple statement soon after the verdict similar to Morriseys then when he was asked about Dever or anything pertaining to the trial he could say something like " I made a statement and that is all I have to say, next".


imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

I, I, I, I didn’t know anything. I have nothing to do with Karen Read, I didn’t know she was even associated with the case, I’ve never said those words-together…

A lot of emphasis on him doing nothing wrong!

Considering that deceased Officer JOK was one of Cox's Boston officers and the defense had his Officers Dever and

• Steven Ridge, Boston Police Department
• Heriberto Hernandez, Boston Police Department

on their witness list and it's "much ado about nothing" to Boston's top cop Cox?
Disgraceful to the late JOK.

Karen Read trial witness lists: Who’s returning, who’s new, and who’s missing?

Prosecutors and defense attorneys in the Karen Read case have submitted their witness lists. Here's who's on them.

www.boston.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Both Dever and Cox are liars and bad ones at that, really bad.

imo

 

[MerlinFalcon]

He was still employed in Michigan when the JOK case began. He did not start working back in Boston until August of that year. It seems he was saying he was not as deeply involved as he would have been if he had been in Boston. As important as the JOK case is, as commissioner he has a lot more on his plate than the details of who was involved.

JMO

He should have clarified because not a lot of people knew where he came from and his comment came out of left field. It was inappropriate during such a serious conversation, especially since a Boston cop was found dead in another Boston cop’s lawn.