NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Izzylizzy]

BBM from above

I would imagine she's been very stressed out for quite some time over being forced to testify when she would have preferred to hide behind her false memory spiel.
I believe Devers has had coaching from many professionals over this.
They also have an employee assistance program to tap into for therapy / counselling, as well as union lawyers and union representatives to protect the employee's rights, and so on.

I think Devers was very well prepared for her disgusting non-testimony.

They threw her to the wolves

They gave her the" false memory testimony spiel" bs storyline that she fed to the fbi first. You think she made that up herself ? Of course not, it comes from the union lawyers "protecting her" giving her that ridiculous narrative.
Anyone interacting wth her had to know how she presented personally. She reeks of attitude and is a terrible liar. Her union coaches/lawyers helping her could not see that ?
All they had to do was a mock testimony exercise with her to see what a train wreck it was going to be on the stand.
They coached her to get up on the stand and lie and punch back. And you saw the result and yet she was so well prepared ?
Were her coaches just stupid?

As soon as she was interviewed by the fbi and she told the truth( that's the 'mistake" this all flows from) - and Karen did not plea out, and she got called to the stand, her days on the force were numbered.

She was not seasoned enough in life to know how to protect herself. She trusted the union coaches, the commissioner etc. and look where that got her.

She tried to protect the shield as she was advised by her union coaches and lawyers and she ruined her life as she knew it.

A savier person would have gotten non union advice before meeting with the fbi - maybe brought a private lawyer along, would have taped all her conversations concerning the topic or written notes to file- told others of the conversatons at the time - even her meeting with the commissioner - and protected herself. ( yes MA is a two party consent state but tapes are still effective IME). Many ways to play that out.

She needed to be clear she was screwed either way so she could make her choices accordingly. And you can bet she was not getting that from anyone in her circle.

She was being told no worries your job will be safe( imo so totally not true) - use the false memory, lie and punch back.

She got on the stand and proceeded to answer the way they coached her - and came across as a disaster/unstable/you name it. No surprise to the commish, problem now solved for LE - on national tv you can see she is a liability -who can believe her - Game Over.

They threw her to the wolves

Besides the above - I agree - she's definetly not likeable and was in the wrong profession.

Added bonus ......a sterling witness for the prosection.

JMO

Good post exploring just how Dever landed where she did..and rightfully so.
I'm still baffled why the CW never showed any evidence that Dever did leave the Canton Police Station before KR's vehicle arrived in the Sally port and the defense that she was still there when the vehicle arrived and remained.
The comings, goings and inside movements are electronically monitored and there's CCTV cameras outside the station.
Crickets from the defense that they tried and failed to get data and video footage etc.
I don't think that officers clock in and out so no paper trail there but Dever did say that she was then working "overtime" when she took over the dispatcher's desk, so how is this "overtime" recorded and entered into her paycheck?
IMO

 

[Equal Justice Under Law]

I’m still baffled about why so many people destroyed (or damaged) their own careers to protect the McAlberts. And/or to protect the coverup of the coverup. Why a DA would spend millions trying to railroad a defendant who was demonstrably innocent. Why a judge would destroy her professional reputation to convict someone based on such flimsy evidence. It’s like the murder of Officer O'Keefe created a virus that spread far beyond the individuals that killed him. (Their actions I understand.) I am really glad that the folks who tried to frame Karen Read were so very stupid & inept about it. The jury saw the truth of her innocence despite the prosecution's best efforts to frame her, enabled from the bench.

 

[lohrtabitha]

Gosh, I hope this happens. I know Karen is tired of being in court and probably wants to get the civil suit done with, but I hope she goes here.
Cleared of murder charges, Karen Read could eye legal payback against investigators who cost her Mo

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I’m still baffled about why so many people destroyed (or damaged) their own careers to protect the McAlberts. And/or to protect the coverup of the coverup. Why a DA would spend millions trying to railroad a defendant who was demonstrably innocent. Why a judge would destroy her professional reputation to convict someone based on such flimsy evidence. It’s like the murder of Officer O'Keefe created a virus that spread far beyond the individuals that killed him. (Their actions I understand.) I am really glad that the folks who tried to frame Karen Read were so very stupid & inept about it. The jury saw the truth of her innocence despite the prosecution's best efforts to frame her, enabled from the bench.

Matt McCabe said in the family group chat that they expected Karen to take a plea. She didn’t and they were suddenly in big trouble. I am very excited about Aidan Kearney’s trial because they have a ton of text messages between Proctor and all of the usual suspects that should be unsealed. The judge in that case is the complete opposite of Cannone. Very accommodating to both sides.

 

[Forest_Wood]

My guess that this is all for show. These guys will still earn their same salary, and likely have cushy jobs. No real change.

I agree. It's more about optics for the MSP than anything else. Take the front line workers out of the front line so they're no longer visible and put in new faces so the people they serve won't get freaked out when they get stopped for a traffic violation or get arrested by one of them for some crime. I couldn't imagine getting pulled over, or having to have the police come to my home for, say, a burglary, and there stands Yuri or any of the others. Yikes!
MOO

 

[HarmonyE.]

Matt McCabe said in the family group chat that they expected Karen to take a plea. She didn’t and they were suddenly in big trouble. I am very excited about Aidan Kearney’s trial because they have a ton of text messages between Proctor and all of the usual suspects that should be unsealed. The judge in that case is the complete opposite of Cannone. Very accommodating to both sides.

And LE, DAs and judges are so used to defendants taking lesser pleas the lazy players here couldn't even imagine someone fighting back against false charges. The vast majority of the population could never afford to do what Read was able to do.

This was no grand conspiracy. I think the individuals who got the taillight out of the sallyport so the pieces could be "discovered" knew the system could easily be manipulated in their favor because they were part of it. And as John's killers are still at large, they weren't wrong.

I also think DA Michael Morrissey, who has never had a real job in his life and has been fat and happy in his position for over 15 years now, was infuriated by Turtleboy riling up people and getting all that media attention. So much so that he made that unbelievably stupid video vouching for the party goers. And after that he wasn't going to give Read an inch. Had there been a mistrial, he'd have rushed through a third trial before his term is up just for the sake of his own ego.

It's disgusting and I'm glad we're starting to see at least some fall-out now.

 

[Forest_Wood]

I also think DA Michael Morrissey, who has never had a real job in his life and has been fat and happy in his position for over 15 years now, was infuriated by Turtleboy riling up people and getting all that media attention.

When I've seen Michael Morrissey, with his fat and bloat, it reminds me of the nursery rhyme:

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All his king's horses and all his king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.

MM couldn't get his men to get the job done, despite him interfering the entire time.

MOO

 

[HarmonyE.]

I agree. It's more about optics for the MSP than anything else. Take the front line workers out of the front line so they're no longer visible and put in new faces so the people they serve won't get freaked out when they get stopped for a traffic violation or get arrested by one of them for some crime. I couldn't imagine getting pulled over, or having to have the police come to my home for, say, a burglary, and there stands Yuri or any of the others. Yikes!
MOO

It's next to impossible to fire MA state troopers. The union is incredibly powerful. Some doubted whether they'd even be able to fire Proctor.

Once guys like Yuri and Tully are assigned to desk positions they lose their ability to make tons of money with overtime. So it is a punishment in that sense. But the main reason for getting them out of the field is to prevent them from ever getting involved with case investigations again and, and I think this is huge, ever testifying again. People laugh over crazy Dever, but Yuri's testimony was incredibly bad for the CW and made the state police look like a laughing stock.

It's behind a paywall, but Howie Carr has a front page piece in the Boston Herald today addressing Yuri's "banishment to Siberia".

 

[Seattle1]

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One generally finds the variance in pay is attributed to overtime compensation. I don't doubt more than a minimal bump in Dever's base pay from 2023 to 2024. JMO

 

[ch_13]

One generally finds the variance in pay is attributed to overtime compensation. I don't doubt more than a minimal bump in Dever's base pay from 2023 to 2024. JMO

It's possible that Dever was given preference for overtime assignments in comparison to others at her same level. Or maybe she was moved to a unit that got more overtime. Either way, the significant jump in pay is interesting, especially in conjunction with the commissioner's special interest in Dever's testimony.

 

[sapphire blue]

The number of connections between the Albert’s, McCabes, Morrissey, and Devers is amazing. We need a family tree type diagram of who’s who and who they are connected to.

 

[HarmonyE.]

The number of connections between the Albert’s, McCabes, Morrissey, and Devers is amazing. We need a family tree type diagram of who’s who and who they are connected to.

Just a coincidence, I'm sure but Matt McCabe's mother's maiden name was Dever!

 

[Forest_Wood]

The number of connections between the Albert’s, McCabes, Morrissey, and Devers is amazing. We need a family tree type diagram of who’s who and who they are connected to.

Are they all related?

 

[shotgun09]

Are they all related?

Well, can you say Kevin Bacon ???

I mean, they probably could and can be related in such a way...living in small town USA. It just adds to the intrigue and messiness of this case.
IMO

 

[SteveS]

If you are wondering about KR's civil trial, this below is a very informative extended interview between a podcast lawyer and KR's civil attorney. It shares how civil case procedures differ. KR lawyer provides a lot of behind-the-scenes info from the criminal case as well that he saw. He was in the courtroom a lot, observing the testimony. He shares how Brennan tried to use the civil case to gain access to testimony to use in the criminal case (that was really not supposed to be allowed) and how he stopped it. And much more.

One snippet: he said the civil case prep has already begun and will be a marathon process, with very much work, and the trial itself likely to be set to be held in early 2027. Yes, 2027!

 

[waldojabba]

"Have you ever had a moment, a poor lapse of judgment, when you’re just airing something out on your personal phone?" he said in that interview.

Michael Proctor's appeal over state police termination moves forward with hearing

Lead Karen Read investigator Michael Proctor’s effort to appeal his firing as a Massachusetts State Police trooper continues — he appeared at a virtual hearing on Tuesday.

www.nbcboston.com

 

[LittleSeaTree]

The Defense said they choose to call Dever as a witness as strategy. They knew what they were doing.

Very cleever of them

 

[LittleSeaTree]

The pile of discarded, disgraced, used and thrown out people who sold their souls to the Albert's and Mcabe's is growing. Add the disagreeable Ms Dever to the list as she is on a leave of absence from her 'job'. Some folks must be questioning themselves if it was all worth it in my opinion. Their actions have consequences and they are coming like a freight train for them. I'm here for every single tear they shed as they stamp their feet, cry, hold their breaths and throw their little temper tantrums as their lives fall apart. They tried and failed to frame and innocent woman. Karen Read is innocent and there isn't a damn thing they can do about except realize they were played by the people responsible for the death of JOK. Karma is coming for all of them.

I hadn’t heard about Dever’s leave of absence!

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Matt McCabe said in the family group chat that they expected Karen to take a plea. She didn’t and they were suddenly in big trouble. I am very excited about Aidan Kearney’s trial because they have a ton of text messages between Proctor and all of the usual suspects that should be unsealed. The judge in that case is the complete opposite of Cannone. Very accommodating to both sides.

I wonder why they thought that. Genuine question..

 

[lohrtabitha]

"Have you ever had a moment, a poor lapse of judgment, when you’re just airing something out on your personal phone?" he said in that interview.

Michael Proctor's appeal over state police termination moves forward with hearing

Lead Karen Read investigator Michael Proctor’s effort to appeal his firing as a Massachusetts State Police trooper continues — he appeared at a virtual hearing on Tuesday.

www.nbcboston.com

The man has rocks for brains. I never knew how dumb he was until he talked in that interview. Moo