MA - Remains of 3 infants found, Erika Murray charged, Blackstone, Sept 2014

  • #41
This whole thing blows my mind. That people can honestly not know anything? The older kids go to school, did they not smell, or their clothes stink? Were the older kids told not to say anything about the conditions of the home? Were they well kept maybe?
 
  • #42
i am dumbfounded. I have read so so so many cases here on WS and elsewhere, and this one - blows my mind. I can not wait to hear the rest of this story. wow.
 
  • #43
i am dumbfounded. I have read so so so many cases here on WS and elsewhere, and this one - blows my mind. I can not wait to hear the rest of this story. wow.

I completely agree. I can't stop thinking about and reading about this case.
 
  • #44
This whole thing blows my mind. That people can honestly not know anything? The older kids go to school, did they not smell, or their clothes stink? Were the older kids told not to say anything about the conditions of the home? Were they well kept maybe?

And a house that overrun with vermin certainly should be affecting the houses on either side, it's not like they just stay within the confines of that home? The neighbors should also have been seeing rats/mice/whatever pretty frequently.
 
  • #45
Her Atty said she is suffering with a Mental illness but then qualified . . .
"mental illness doesn’t always provide these kinds of answers. Living in that house — who could live in that house who wasn’t seriously mentally ill".

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...arraignment/UyG3slGarf5tRizlTPSTsN/story.html

I read where the home was extensively remodeled just prior to this family moving in. The images on g-maps show the front to be a very nice home on the exterior - but those might be from a few years ago. Hard to image this home was so close to a fire station and the police station, but the child chose to go to a neighbor to ask for help with the baby.
 
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  • #47
Did anybody see this law?
http://law.justia.com/codes/massachusetts/2014/part-iv/title-i/chapter-272/section-22


What does being born out of wedlock have to do with anything, and also, to be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than one year?!?! While I think each case should be evaluated, and I tend to lean on the more lenient side in these cases, I find it ridiculous that the law is so limited.

It's an ancient law that was never updated with the times.

i am dumbfounded. I have read so so so many cases here on WS and elsewhere, and this one - blows my mind. I can not wait to hear the rest of this story. wow.

I completely agree. I can't stop thinking about and reading about this case.

I'm right there with you. Mind boggling.
 
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  • #50
Weird. Could it be she mentally snapped when the babies died? Became a hoarder. The children have lived like this for awhile. Would it seem normal to them?
As for who ever else lives there. I don't get it. Was there a separate entrance? Even then you would smell that. I have two small kids you smell like diaper.
 
  • #51
There is a post on August fourth that says, "I'm done with childish behavior."

It says it has two comments, but I can't get it to show more than one. Can any of you see both comments?
 
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...4wiwxvWBbtqv26GNbJO/story.html?rss_id=Top-GNP

Concealing the death of a child, one of the charges facing Blackstone mother Erika L. Murray, was added to the Massachusetts law books in 1696 and is the subject of a proposed update on Beacon Hill.

State Representative Colleen Garry said today she filed a proposal to update the law because the current penalty is so insignificant — $100 fine or a maximum of one year in jail. Garry said she wants to see it increased to five years behind bars.
 
  • #54
A huge FB cleaning went on yesterday. EM lost 1/2 her friend list. Many comments are missing. Immediate family have shut down their pages as well and/or unfriended her.
 
  • #55
A huge FB cleaning went on yesterday. EM lost 1/2 her friend list. Many comments are missing. Immediate family have shut down their pages as well and/or unfriended her.

I was wondering how long those "friends" would want their face attached to this...

How did no one know?



*Actually I'm seeing the same amount of friends she had yesterday...83 people clearly don't care about possibly having their mug on tv. I do see some people removed their comments & I think one of them was her own mother.
 
  • #56
1st post-thanks to this case- apologies if I don't do this right!

"According to the relative, who asked not to be identified, Murray’s own parents, who live in Northbridge, only learned about the existence of the two younger children on Thursday night, as the public did. Those disclosures came with reports that their daughter’s house was infested with vermin, flies, and bugs and filled with piles of dirty diapers.

This relative said Murray’s parents and other family members were never invited inside the Blackstone house, so they never saw the conditions."
....

Murray told the man she lived with that she was baby-
sitting the two younger children and that they belonged to a woman named Michelle. She also created a Facebook page with Michelle’s name, as well as a photo of herself in a wig and glasses, as a way of proving that such a woman existed, according to a state investigator who has been briefed on the case.
....
When questioned by authorities, Murray allegedly said she was the mother of the four children, but that she never told Rivera that he was the father of two additional children, according to the state investigator. She said she hid those pregnancies by wearing loose-fitting clothes.

After her children were taken away to foster care, Murray apparently moved in over the past two weeks with her parents in Northbridge, making up a story about the man she was living with being busted by the police for a marijuana business run from the home, according to the relative who saw her during the nursery visit. Murray also allegedly told her parents that the state had to temporarily take her two children, and she did not say anything about the two other younger children, said her relative.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...double-life/0ob0AUIGHmMb4b3FsIbPLJ/story.html
 
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1st post-thanks to this case- apologies if I don't do this right!

"According to the relative, who asked not to be identified, Murray’s own parents, who live in Northbridge, only learned about the existence of the two younger children on Thursday night, as the public did. Those disclosures came with reports that their daughter’s house was infested with vermin, flies, and bugs and filled with piles of dirty diapers.

This relative said Murray’s parents and other family members were never invited inside the Blackstone house, so they never saw the conditions."
....

Murray told the man she lived with that she was baby-
sitting the two younger children and that they belonged to a woman named Michelle. She also created a Facebook page with Michelle’s name, as well as a photo of herself in a wig and glasses, as a way of proving that such a woman existed, according to a state investigator who has been briefed on the case.
....
When questioned by authorities, Murray allegedly said she was the mother of the four children, but that she never told Rivera that he was the father of two additional children, according to the state investigator. She said she hid those pregnancies by wearing loose-fitting clothes.

After her children were taken away to foster care, Murray apparently moved in over the past two weeks with her parents in Northbridge, making up a story about the man she was living with being busted by the police for a marijuana business run from the home, according to the relative who saw her during the nursery visit. Murray also allegedly told her parents that the state had to temporarily take her two children, and she did not say anything about the two other younger children, said her relative.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...double-life/0ob0AUIGHmMb4b3FsIbPLJ/story.html

I've looked and I can't find this. Can any of you?
 
  • #59
The heroic neighbor who led to the rescue of four children — including a hidden-away toddler and 5-month-old baby girl — from a vermin-infested Blackstone home recalled the shocking discovery and how she tried to comfort the feces-and-maggot-covered children.

“I never would have guessed that was going on — ever,” the neighbor said of the atrocities inside the house where investigators this week found the remains of three dead infants.

The 41-year-old neighbor and mother of two, who asked the Herald to withhold her name, moved to the neighborhood a year ago. About six months ago, her 13-year-old son began playing with the 10-year-old son of Erika Murray, who was arraigned yesterday in Uxbridge District Court on charges of “fetal death concealment” and permitting substantial injury to a child.

The woman said she met the 31-year-old Murray for the first time two weeks ago. She gave Murray her phone number and suggested they get together sometime.

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http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio..._neighbor_on_blackstone_horror_i_tried_not_to
 
  • #60
I'm in utter shock.:scared:
 

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