MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019 #2

[BostonTimes]

The post was about lack of a cell phone and debit card. Nothing else. You are correct Boston Times, Sandra didn't work. That does not mean her father supported her; she could have been receiving a monthly income from Social Security Disability; we just don't know. EDITED TO ADD: Her past life in Quincy may or may not have anything to do with her disappearance. We just don't know.

The daughter said Sandra worked on the boat when she was married. Also no significant health issues stated by the daughter many times from the beginning means no disability .,I.e. able to watch 3:boys under 5. Daughter stated that basically!KY Sandra liked to be taken care of that's why they handled her finances completely right up to finally getting her car fixed.

 

[Curiosity1234]

The daughter said Sandra worked on the boat when she was married. Also no significant health issues stated by the daughter many times from the beginning means no disability .,I.e. able to watch 3:boys under 5. Daughter stated that basically!KY Sandra liked to be taken care of that's why they handled her finances completely right up to finally getting her car fixed.

No significant physical health issues does not mean she did not have other issues like ADHD, OCD, etc. that would make her eligible for Social Security Disabity. People on disability have children, raise families so watching 3 boys under 5 does not mean she was wasn't on disability. We just don't know.

 

[BostonTimes]

No significant physical health issues does not mean she did not have other issues like ADHD, OCD, etc. that would make her eligible for Social Security Disabity. People on disability have children, raise families so watching 3 boys under 5 does not mean she was wasn't on disability. We just don't know.

It was said no health issues including mental health or on any medications. Nothing significant. I'm sorry but I disagree, many people with ADHD and/or OCD work and if not able to work I would feel they unsafe to watch 3 little boys. Also other requirements. We don't know but I believe her daughter when she stated Sandra did not have any medical or mental health issues. Sandra worked on the boat when she was married. Sandra as stated by her daughter liked to be taken care of which is a nice way of saying how they had to assist her from finances to getting her car repaired. Which they did do.

 

[Yemelyan]

The public has been given two contradictory pieces of information about Sandra's mental health. I think this could relate to her disappearance.

On March 14, 2020, a family member gave an interview on the episode of the podcast Missing Persons devoted to Sandra's disappearance. The family member was asked if Sandra had a history of mental health or substance abuse issues and the family member answered no, then hesitated and continued to answer no to mental health issues specifically. To my knowledge, this was the first time this question was asked and answered in a MSM interview.

On February 15, 2021, the same family member was interviewed on the podcast The Vanished. On this podcast, the information was volunteered that Sandra had suffered from "bits and pieces of depression throughout her life." The family member said that it was agreed that "it was not a good fit for Sandra to continue to live alone" because of depression issues that Sandra suffered as a result of her father's death. The words used were that Sandra had "struggled" since his death.

IMO...if you are only 54 and your family feels that you are in no mental state to continue to live alone, what does that say about your mental health? I would say it points to a significant mental health issue of one kind or another.

We were also told by family that the Hanson Police treated Sandra's disappearance very seriously and it was on the same level as if Sandra had been a missing child. That's interesting to me, considering that adults are allowed to walk away from the lives if they choose and they don't need to give an explanation to their family. I don't dispute the family's statement but there was no "silver alert" or anything like that declared publicly. However, if what the family says is true, then this could also give credence to police believing there may be a mental health issue.

Episode sources for my information:
Missing Persons: Missing Persons - Sandra Crispo on Stitcher
The Vanished: The Vanished Podcast - Sandra Crispo on Stitcher

 

[MimosaMornings]

I wish I could listen to the podcast, I haven’t seen a narrative from it.

 

[Curiosity1234]

Thank you Yemelyan. If my memory serves me correctly, on The Vanished episode SC's daughter said her mother had no medical problems and was not on medication. I don't believe I heard anyone say anything about mental health issues.

 

[Yemelyan]

Thank you Yemelyan. If my memory serves me correctly, on The Vanished episode SC's daughter said her mother had no medical problems and was not on medication. I don't believe I heard anyone say anything about mental health issues.

The no medical problems and no medications answer was actually on the episode of Missing Persons (which was recorded earlier in 2020). A year later in The Vanished episode, LM cited ongoing depression issues as the motivating factor for Sandra's move, and offered the information that Sandra had suffered from depression at different times throughout her life. This discussion is at about minute 15 of the podcast. You'll hear LM say "she definitely had depression issues" and there is more discussion following. Her son in law also comments that she had recently taken on a "new persona" and reached a new stage in her life. He says at 17:50: "she had bits and pieces of depression throughout her life." Again that's from the episode of The Vanished, found here: The Vanished Podcast - Sandra Crispo on Stitcher

Two different answers about mental health, and revealing IMO.

 

[Curiosity1234]

I find it interesting to read here that the Hanson Police treated SC's disappearance on the same level as a missing child which we know is at risk for injury, foul play or even death. Sad to think of a 54 year old woman that way.

 

[Curiosity1234]

Thank you Yemelyan, I stand corrected, apologies in order. It might have been Missing Persons I heard.

 

[Curiosity1234]

I found it. The Vanished, episode 269 from August 2019.

 

[Yemelyan]

I found it. The Vanished, episode 269 from August 2019.

August 2019 is when Sandra disappeared. This episode (#269) dates from February 15, 2021. It was the later of two podcasts devoted to this topic.

 

[Curiosity1234]

Thank you again Yemelyan. I saw August 2019 so I thought it was when it was done.

 

[Curiosity1234]

The public has been given two contradictory pieces of information about Sandra's mental health. I think this could relate to her disappearance.

On March 14, 2020, a family member gave an interview on the episode of the podcast Missing Persons devoted to Sandra's disappearance. The family member was asked if Sandra had a history of mental health or substance abuse issues and the family member answered no, then hesitated and continued to answer no to mental health issues specifically. To my knowledge, this was the first time this question was asked and answered in a MSM interview.

On February 15, 2021, the same family member was interviewed on the podcast The Vanished. On this podcast, the information was volunteered that Sandra had suffered from "bits and pieces of depression throughout her life." The family member said that it was agreed that "it was not a good fit for Sandra to continue to live alone" because of depression issues that Sandra suffered as a result of her father's death. The words used were that Sandra had "struggled" since his death.

IMO...if you are only 54 and your family feels that you are in no mental state to continue to live alone, what does that say about your mental health? I would say it points to a significant mental health issue of one kind or another.

We were also told by family that the Hanson Police treated Sandra's disappearance very seriously and it was on the same level as if Sandra had been a missing child. That's interesting to me, considering that adults are allowed to walk away from the lives if they choose and they don't need to give an explanation to their family. I don't dispute the family's statement but there was no "silver alert" or anything like that declared publicly. However, if what the family says is true, then this could also give credence to police believing there may be a mental health issue.

Episode sources for my information:
Missing Persons: Missing Persons - Sandra Crispo on Stitcher
The Vanished: The Vanished Podcast - Sandra Crispo on Stitcher

I had no idea there was such a thing as a "Silver Alert" until you mentioned it Yemelyan so I looked it up and learned there is also a "Gold Alert". I've seen Amber Alerts on TV and on highways but never silver or gold ones.

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

So good to continue to see new ideas and thoughts and details fleshed out and about on Sandra's thread. I am pretty firmly in foul play camp, and will continue to sit on my hands to stay within TOS.

We're not giving up on you, Sandra. Those who love you will want answers.

 

[Curiosity1234]

So good to continue to see new ideas and thoughts and details fleshed out and about on Sandra's thread. I am pretty firmly in foul play camp, and will continue to sit on my hands to stay within TOS.

We're not giving up on you, Sandra. Those who love you will want answers.

I am with you in the foul play camp. I hope LE solves solves this case and apprehends the one or two people responsible. It will bring her loved ones a little peace of mind.

 

[BostonTimes]

I find it interesting to read here that the Hanson Police treated SC's disappearance on the same level as a missing child which we know is at risk for injury, foul play or even death. Sad to think of a 54 year old woman that way.

Thank you Yemelyan. If my memory serves me correctly, on The Vanished episode SC's daughter said her mother had no medical problems and was not on medication. I don't believe I heard anyone say anything about mental health issues.

If the mental health/depression noted was severe or interfering with life medication may have been part of the equation in which was a no...no medication. As the daughter said she would not just leave. Depressed people, really depressed people don't look forward to having people around or offer to babysit. Answering to the weirdness of not having a debit card or cell phone. Sandra once had a cell phone, not prior to her disappearance. It isn't way off topic to discuss Sandras past as imo it explains how she needed help with everything from selling a house to managing money. She was married and perhaps her spouse took care if that and after her divorce she lived with her father. This is the path Sandras chose just like her sil said in the podcast. This was Sandra, she chose this path. Not one of independence.

 

[Curiosity1234]

I just thought of another scenario. When SC moved to that relatively secluded neighborhoid in Hanson which has a low crime rate; it might have given SC a false sense of security. When SC dropped her car off at mechanics shop she gave him her key chain with house key on it. I don't think the mechanic or his employees were involved in SC's disappearance. But, let's suppose she only had one key and left her back door unlocked. Someone could have been hiding under her bed. That's another explanation for why the bed slats were on the floor and the mattress was out of position.

 

[Yemelyan]

If the mental health/depression noted was severe or interfering with life medication may have been part of the equation in which was a no...no medication. As the daughter said she would not just leave. Depressed people, really depressed people don't look forward to having people around or offer to babysit. Answering to the weirdness of not having a debit card or cell phone. Sandra once had a cell phone, not prior to her disappearance. It isn't way off topic to discuss Sandras past as imo it explains how she needed help with everything from selling a house to managing money. She was married and perhaps her spouse took care if that and after her divorce she lived with her father. This is the path Sandras chose just like her sil said in the podcast. This was Sandra, she chose this path. Not one of independence.

I could not disagree more with this.

Depression, even severe depression, varies from person to person.

Depressed people do not always take medication or even seek out therapy. Depressed people do not always "look" depressed to outsiders OR family. Some depressed people, and some suicidal people for that matter (not saying Sandra was, but this is a myth that needs to be busted) DO carry out regular life tasks including babysitting and/or their daily jobs, though they may be silently struggling. Depressed people also still have short and long term plans!!

I do think that Sandra's apparent need to be "taken care of" could be symptomatic of the struggles with depression that her own family told us she had in phases throughout her life.

I also think that the accuracy of information about no medications, as it was given in an early podcast that also told us there were no mental problems, should be questioned. We went from "no mental problems" to the revision "mental problems throughout Sandra's life."

 

[BostonTimes]

I could not disagree more with this.

Depression, even severe depression, varies from person to person.

Depressed people do not always take medication or even seek out therapy. Depressed people do not always "look" depressed to outsiders OR family. Some depressed people, and some suicidal people for that matter (not saying Sandra was, but this is a myth that needs to be busted) DO carry out regular life tasks including babysitting and/or their daily jobs, though they may be silently struggling. Depressed people also still have short and long term plans!!

I do think that Sandra's apparent need to be "taken care of" could be symptomatic of the struggles with depression that her own family told us she had in phases throughout her life.

I also think that the accuracy of information about no medications, as it was given in an early podcast that also told us there were no mental problems, should be questioned. We went from "no mental problems" to the revision "mental problems throughout Sandra's life."

If she was severely depressed, enough to hurt herself I would think someone would notice something. The daughter and sil remarked Sandra was happy to have her own place. I think she went from being a wife to staying with her father after the divorce was a choice. Here she was in her early forties and decided a career option wasn't for her. It said this basically in the podcast. People that are depressed enough to hurt themselves aren't up to par with daily activity. everything is chore. Yes she could have had slight depression but like the Sil remarked, its hard not to if you call being sad about the loss of your father etc. We all have been there. She was on her own. Finances handled by her daughter is completely understandable of she never had to be responsible like that. She didn't have that kind of drive. Again the sil remarked about that. This was Sandras life and it didn't necessarily mean she was depressed. As far as planning, Sandra needed proding to get her car in the shop. Not likely to plan suicide if she needed pricing to get her car in the shop. Its most likely sandra was always taken care of because she went from married to living with her father... Didn't pursue career etc. Makes sense. She never bought a house on her own, never needed a bank account. Why? She was content with the way her life was and once on her own it was better. Sandras had a house paid for by the sale of her fathers property, money in the bank and grandkids. There were other issues in the family that may be why Sandra is gone missing. Btw there is no stigma regardng depression from me but I watch my kids and they would love me to tidy up there house, make there bed everyday, help them with the mundane, but it doesn't mean they are depressed. I don't do it so they can learn on there own how to survive and carve out the life they want. 2 are over ambitious and one could Care less about finances, owning a home...wants to live with mommy and daddy forever or until they get married but one thing is for sure, she is finishing co!lege and her part time summer job is a must and yes, I manage her bills for now but that means she pays for her car insurance etc. Sandra didn't have that and by the time she was divorced..in her forties she wasn't pursuing a career. Imo

 

[BostonTimes]

I just thought of another scenario. When SC moved to that relatively secluded neighborhoid in Hanson which has a low crime rate; it might have given SC a false sense of security. When SC dropped her car off at mechanics shop she gave him her key chain with house key on it. I don't think the mechanic or his employees were involved in SC's disappearance. But, let's suppose she only had one key and left her back door unlocked. Someone could have been hiding under her bed. That's another explanation for why the bed slats were on the floor and the mattress was out of position.

What's odd is the police dogs didn't find anything yet the daughter found forensics in the home. How would the canine miss something yet the daughter found. Imo I find that odd. Also the state troopers have not deemed the case anything more than a missing oerson . so what did the daughter find that no one else did?