MA MA - Sandra Crispo, 54, Hanson, 7 August 2019 #2

[Yemelyan]

If she was severely depressed, enough to hurt herself I would think someone would notice something. The daughter and sil remarked Sandra was happy to have her own place. I think she went from being a wife to staying with her father after the divorce was q choice. Here she was in her early forties and decided a career option wasn't for her. It said this basically in the podcast. People that are depressed enough to hurt themselves aren't up to par with daily activity. everything is chore. Yes she could have had slight depression but like the Sil remarked, its hard not to if you call being sad about the loss of your father etc. We all have been there. She was on her own. Finances handled by her daughter is completely understandable of she never had to be responsible like that. She didn't have that kind of drive. Again the sil remarked about that. This was Sandras life and it didn't necessarily mean she was depressed. As far as planning, Sandra needed pricing to get her car in the shop. Not likely to plan suicide. To be taken care of because she went from married to living with father... Didn't pursue career etc. Makes sense. She never bought a house on her own, never needed a bank account. Why? She was content with the way her life was and once on her own it was better. Sandras had a house paid for by the sale of her fathers property, money in the bank and grandkids. There were other issues in the family that may be why Sandra is gone missing. Btw there is no stigma fixing depression from me but I watch my kids and they would love me to tidy uo there house, make there bed everyday, help them with the mundane, but it doesn't mean they are depressed. I don't do it so they can learn on there own how to survive and carve bout the life they want. 2 are over ambitious and one could Care less about finances, owning a home...wants to live with mommy and daddy forever or until they get married but one thing is for sure, she is finishing co!lege and her part time summer job is a must and yes, I manage her bills for now but that means she pays for her cat insurance etc. Sandra didn't have that and by the time she was divorced..in her forties she wasn't pursuing a career. Imo

My correction of your assumptions on depression is not because I believe Sandra committed suicide, though I do think it is a possibility. It is in order to introduce fact-based
information into the situation.

You wrote: This was Sandras life and it didn't necessarily mean she was depressed.

My point is, her family is telling us in a MSM interview that she WAS depressed. And furthermore, they decided at one point to deny it and at a later point to open up about it. I find that sequence of events interesting. You keep denying that she was depressed. To me, it is less important whether she would or would not have had a clinical diagnosis of depression than what her family has to say about it.

What else did they originally deny, or omit, that could shed light on her disappearance?

 

[BostonTimes]

I just thought of another scenario. When SC moved to that relatively secluded neighborhoid in Hanson which has a low crime rate; it might have given SC a false sense of security. When SC dropped her car off at mechanics shop she gave him her key chain with house key on it. I don't think the mechanic or his employees were involved in SC's disappearance. But, let's suppose she only had one key and left her back door unlocked. Someone could have been hiding under her bed. That's another explanation for why the bed slats were on the floor and the mattress was out of position.

What's odd is the police dogs didn't find anything yet the daughter found forensics in the home. How would the canine miss something yet the daughter found. Imo I find that odd. Also the state troopers have not deemed the case anything more than a missing oerson . so what did the daughter find that no one else did?

My correction of your assumptions on depression is not because I believe Sandra committed suicide, though I do think it is a possibility. It is in order to introduce fact-based
information into the situation.

You wrote: This was Sandras life and it didn't necessarily mean she was depressed.

My point is, her family is telling us in a MSM interview that she WAS depressed. And furthermore, they decided at one point to deny it and at a later point to open up about it. I find that sequence of events interesting. You keep denying that she was depressed. To me, it is less important whether she would or would not have had a clinical diagnosis of depression than what her family has to say about it.

What else did they originally deny, or omit, that could shed light on her disappearance?

Exactly

 

[Curious-A]

What's odd is the police dogs didn't find anything yet the daughter found forensics in the home. How would the canine miss something yet the daughter found. Imo I find that odd. Also the state troopers have not deemed the case anything more than a missing oerson . so what did the daughter find that no one else did?

Exactly

PBI…IMO it’s not impossible or telling in any way that SC’s daughter found forensics in the home. I remember in the Kelsey Berreth case her parents found forensic evidence (blood) in the bathroom that a police search had missed several days earlier. Later tests determined there was blood evidence on the toilet, bathtub, towel rack, trash can and electric outlet. JMO

 

[BostonTimes]

PBI…IMO it’s not impossible or telling in any way that SC’s daughter found forensics in the home. I remember in the Kelsey Berreth case her parents found forensic evidence (blood) in the bathroom that a police search had missed several days earlier. Later tests determined there was blood evidence on the toilet, bathtub, towel rack, trash can and electric outlet. JMO

Shouldn't the dogs pick up on blood?

 

[detectorhector]

Shouldn't the dogs pick up on blood?

Do we know it was blood? I haven't listened to the podcast in a while but I thought she wouldn't say what she found.

 

[Yemelyan]

Do we know it was blood? I haven't listened to the podcast in a while but I thought she wouldn't say what she found.

We don't know what was found. She purposely wouldn't say, which is understandable.

 

[Curiosity1234]

LM said she found something in her Mom"s house months after her Mom disappeared and she gave it to LE. We don't know what it is. Some type of bodily fluid, a receipt to a store neither SC, LM, nor the SIL had ever been to. Has LE ever acknowledged receiving some type of evidence from SC's home or from LM ?

 

[BostonTimes]

LM said she found something in her Mom"s house months after her Mom disappeared and she gave it to LE. We don't know what it is. Some type of bodily fluid, a receipt to a store neither SC, LM, nor the SIL had ever been to. Has LE ever acknowledged receiving some type of evidence from SC's home or from LM ?

A receipt from s store? I had not heard that. Do you know which pod cast that is from?

 

[Curiosity1234]

I said we don't know what it is. I gave examples of what it "could be" such as bodily fluid or a receipt.

 

[Yemelyan]

LM said she found something in her Mom"s house months after her Mom disappeared and she gave it to LE. We don't know what it is. Some type of bodily fluid, a receipt to a store neither SC, LM, nor the SIL had ever been to. Has LE ever acknowledged receiving some type of evidence from SC's home or from LM ?

To my knowledge, LE has never directly confirmed this via interview or press release.

MA State Police purportedly joined the investigation after LM found this "evidence" - whatever it was. We know that this happened at the end of September, 2019. So a little less than 2 months after Sandra disappeared.

At that point, LE returned to Sandra's home, "collecting evidence that will be sent away for analysis" according to this article: Search for missing woman resumes at her Hanson home

The article also contains this quote that likely pertains to whatever LM found that was the reason for police to return to the home:

"I believe there is some forensic evidence indicating she didn’t just walk away," said McMahon. "That there might be some evidence of something more than that."

McMahon adds she thinks that evidence wasn't readily seen the last time police canvassed the house.

According to Crispo's daughter, the Plymouth County DA's office and the State Police have taken the lead in the investigation.

 

[Curious-A]

Shouldn't the dogs pick up on blood?

Sorry, I should have been more clear by saying “ in the KB case the forensic evidence that was found by her parents was blood but we don’t know what type of forensic evidence LM found in her mother’s house.”

 

[Curiosity1234]

To my knowledge, LE has never directly confirmed this via interview or press release.

MA State Police purportedly joined the investigation after LM found this "evidence" - whatever it was. We know that this happened at the end of September, 2019. So a little less than 2 months after Sandra disappeared.

At that point, LE returned to Sandra's home, "collecting evidence that will be sent away for analysis" according to this article: Search for missing woman resumes at her Hanson home

The article also contains this quote that likely pertains to whatever LM found that was the reason for police to return to the home:

"I believe there is some forensic evidence indicating she didn’t just walk away," said McMahon. "That there might be some evidence of something more than that."

McMahon adds she thinks that evidence wasn't readily seen the last time police canvassed the house.

According to Crispo's daughter, the Plymouth County DA's office and the State Police have taken the lead in the investigation.

That was my primary question, what exactly has LE acknowledged vs what LM has said or what has been reported in news articles ? You covered it all.

 

[Curiosity1234]

Sorry, I should have been more clear by saying “ in the KB case the forensic evidence that was found by her parents was blood but we don’t know what type of forensic evidence LM found in her mother’s house.”

I knew in KB's case blood was found, but I had no idea it was found by the parents.

 

[Rush4087]

I can’t get past thinking that this whole thing has been about money.

Apparently, Sandra inherited her father’s house when he passed. I read that some of her siblings felt they’d been wrongly left out of it. My guess is that she also got most of her fathers other assets as well. I wonder if he had a life insurance policy?

She was, after all, his favorite daughter, and she was his primary caregiver - all at a time when other family members / siblings had seemingly clashed and gone there own way.

I think after her father passed and she came into some money, all of a sudden several of her siblings (some who had previously been estranged) come out of the woodwork offering to re-home her, to help her run her affairs, to give her a daycare job, etc.

Who would stand to benefit if Sandra suddenly died and could not be found? LM and her husband? Other children?

-did SC have a will?
-did SC have life insurance?
-was the new house entirely in SC’s name?

Who stood to gain?

jmo

 

[CluelessWonder]

What do you think? I'm not convinced it's Sandra. But I also can't rule it out. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article252349383.html

 

[Curiosity1234]

What do you think? I'm not convinced it's Sandra. But I also can't rule it out. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article252349383.html

I personally don't think it looks like SC plus the woman in the picture appears to have brown eyes; SC's eyes are blue. It did say in the article I read that the woman they found believes she is from the East Coast. The article I read did not give a description such as hair color, eye color, height, or weight. Kudos to you for finding that though.

 

[BostonTimes]

What do you think? I'm not convinced it's Sandra. But I also can't rule it out. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article252349383.html

great alert but it is not Sandra.

 

[HarmonyE.]

I can’t get past thinking that this whole thing has been about money.

Apparently, Sandra inherited her father’s house when he passed. I read that some of her siblings felt they’d been wrongly left out of it. My guess is that she also got most of her fathers other assets as well. I wonder if he had a life insurance policy?

She was, after all, his favorite daughter, and she was his primary caregiver - all at a time when other family members / siblings had seemingly clashed and gone there own way.

I think after her father passed and she came into some money, all of a sudden several of her siblings (some who had previously been estranged) come out of the woodwork offering to re-home her, to help her run her affairs, to give her a daycare job, etc.

Who would stand to benefit if Sandra suddenly died and could not be found? LM and her husband? Other children?

-did SC have a will?
-did SC have life insurance?
-was the new house entirely in SC’s name?

Who stood to gain?

jmo

I can answer your last question. No, the new house was in both Sandra and her daughter's names.

There are some possible inaccuracies in your post. First, we don't know that Sandra was her father's favorite. We do know that his house had been in her name along with his since the early 2000's, presumably around the time she was divorced. While it was implied early on that she was her father's caregiver, this has been disputed in recent podcasts, with her daughter claiming Sandra's father looked after her and not the other way around. Her daughter also described her mother as a very needy woman who was, and wanted to be, dependent on others for basic things.

We do not know how her other siblings felt about the house. <modsnip>

Her siblings did not come out of the woodwork to help her when her father died. All of the things you describe (moving, day care job) were handled by her daughter.

While love of money can be the root of evil things, we don't know that Sandra had much more than the little house and whatever proceeds she had left from the sale of the house in Quincy after buying the Hanson house. <modsnip - Social Media>

 

[MimosaMornings]

JMO
Even a small amount of suspected money can be a lure impossible to ignore.

Someone peripheral in Sandra’s life could have experienced a mental snap or had issues with drugs/alcohol or other daily struggles.

Perhaps they knew Sandra never had a debit card and always had cash.

 

[MimosaMornings]

Lots of red flags. Car accidents, totally dependent, no cell phone or computer/tablet, no debit card, no financial responsibility, no pictures, seems to be cut off from the outside world.
JMO