Madeleine died 'after large sleeping pill overdose'

[Taximom]

Close, so far it's coverage of the President's speech. No Greta yet.

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[Zelda]

Mrs. Fenn reported her concerns to the resort management who then confronted the McCanns about leaving their kids alone. It's very possible she did talk to the police who didn't respond right away. The important thing is that they now have her testimony.

Does anyone have a link to Mrs. Fenn's testimony?
For some reason I missed it. It sounds important.

 

[CaliKid]

Does anyone have a link to Mrs. Fenn's testimony?
For some reason I missed it. It sounds important.

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/...vital-information-never-questioned-by-police/

WIDOW WITH VITAL CLUES WAS NEVER QUESTIONED

By David Pilditch

A British widow has come forward with new information which could help Portuguese detectives solve the mystery of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, the Daily Express can reveal.

Ex-pat Pamela Fenn, who is in her 70’s, has told police she has three “bombshell” clues she believes could be vital to the inquiry.

In the weeks before Madeleine disappeared Mrs Fenn scared off an intruder who had apparently let himself into her apartment with a key.

It was one of a series of similar crimes reported to Portuguese police.

In a second development Mrs Fenn’s niece reported seeing a man who matched the description of a suspect peering into the McCanns holiday apartment around the time Madeleine went missing.

SEE LINK FOR ENTIRE ARTICLE.

EDITED BY ADMIN DUE TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT AND TOS VIOLATIONS

 

[Brefie]

Off Topic: Hey all. Thanks for your kind words earlier. Sorry I disappeared so suddenly, I ate some sushi and shouldn't have

 

[angarella]

BREFIE!!!

Seriously...you haven't seen this????? http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/picture_gallery/0,,30000-1267634-1,00.html

These pics were taken May 27th!!

The Daily Mail messed up when they indicated that that pic was taken "yesterday".

Those pictures make me incredibly sad. I bet Maddie would have had a great time with her parents at the park too.

 

[Texana]

Off Topic: Hey all. Thanks for your kind words earlier. Sorry I disappeared so suddenly, I ate some sushi and shouldn't have

hope you feel better!

 

[Texana]

Those pictures make me incredibly sad. I bet Maddie would have had a great time with her parents at the park too.

That picture bothers the heck out of me. Even if I say, well, they are trying to give the twins some attention, they are obviously posing for photographs from the media.

Why would you want a photo of your family laughing and looking so happy, wouldn't that play right into an abductor's hands? "see, your family doesn't need you anymore,they are happy so you need to stop crying for them, Maddie."

 

[angarella]

That picture bothers the heck out of me. Even if I say, well, they are trying to give the twins some attention, they are obviously posing for photographs from the media.

Why would you want a photo of your family laughing and looking so happy, wouldn't that play right into an abductor's hands? "see, your family doesn't need you anymore,they are happy so you need to stop crying for them, Maddie."

Exactly! I know it was a photo op, but it just seems to scream: We have exactly the happy family that we want now......

 

[JinxieJada]

is it possible in all of the "new" evidence uncovered, they found ingested but undissolved pills of some sort? whether it be mom/dad gave one too many...or mom gave a dose, dad didn't know it and gave another one (or vice versa) perhaps that's where the 'I swallowed" came in... they were vomited up..but missed while someone was cleaning up?

A bit far fetched i know..but I remember taking one too many and threw up intact pills that were still recognizable.

 

[aussie_mum]

Once I vomited a panadol thru my nose. I had taken it a while before, can't recall how long tho. I was a Panadol Rapid, not sure if you have them in the us, but they are a bit larger than usual tab and have a smooth plasticy coating..... what came out my nose was the coating mostly with some of the actual tab still in it... not much but enough to make my nose burn alot.

 

[aussie_mum]

I forgot to add this lol :sick:

 

[aussie_mum]

errrr my point was.... that if as someone suggested before that they attemted to resuscitate Maddie and she puked possibly the coating of a ingested tablet may have come up and been left behind or stuck in the hair that was found in the boot. DNA could also be recovered from an item like this which also would include drugs like one of the articles stated.
Does it make sense this time?? lol my mind is always all over the place!

 

[JinxieJada]

errrr my point was.... that if as someone suggested before that they attemted to resuscitate Maddie and she puked possibly the coating of a ingested tablet may have come up and been left behind or stuck in the hair that was found in the boot. DNA could also be recovered from an item like this which also would include drugs like one of the articles stated.
Does it make sense this time?? lol my mind is always all over the place!

LOL...I understood!!! :woohoo:

and that's exactly what i was talking about....or even, she vomited, they wrapped her up in whatever it was she vomited in...and when she was moved...one fell away from her, off of her etc. this of course, goes w/ the assumption of mine that they are involved, via directly or indirectly, I truly feel they know where their child is.

BTW how the hell many people "give up". One minute they know she is being loved and taken care of..and the next...they've dealt w/ their grief but have to move on for the sake of their twins? ALSO..does anyone else notice in the family pic that is plastered everywhere...Poor MM is off to the side..while they are enveloping the twins..Maybe the twins ages...BUT...noone has their arms around or even near her in the pic.

 

[aussie_mum]

lol phew! opps few typos etc in there as well! But what you say makes sense. I know this is all suppusition (I know its spelt wrong, sorry guys).... but we are just working off the small snippets of info avail.

 

[nanandjim]

When the parents are either drunk or hungover every single day on holiday, it's easy to see how they could get mixed up dosing their kids with sedatives. I think the sedatives were administered by one of the parents, and they gave poor little Maddie double or triple so Mrs. Fenn wouldn't report her crying, while they caroused with their swinger friends and 14 bottles of wine.

IMO, the parents intentionally gave Maddy an extra dose, perhaps, when she didn't seem to be calming down from the regular dose. It probably hit the girl like a lead balloon and slowed down her heart or caused her to vomit in her sleep and choke on her vomit.

I don't understand why they didn't leave their children at home under a nanny's or babysitter's care. It just doesn't make sense to me.

This is no accident. The child did not get hold of the pills herself. That's been my opinion for quite some time.

 

[Rino]

I could turn out to be extremely naive...in which case I will provide the rotten fruit that you should throw at me

You could be right and still be naive, can we still throw the fruit??:crazy:

 

[christine2448]

If this was purely accidental, I can see where they would want to cover it up being doctors and all.

Why would they want to cover it up if it was purely accidental? If it was an accident, it was an accident.

But what was an accident??

It's not an accident to drug your children so you can go out and party.

If she overdosed herself, why cover that up, they did nothing wrong.

Even if Madeleine took the pills on her own, I'm still holding the parents culpable.


Stupid, stupid people. Geez, it makes me fume to think that there were so many resources available to them to make sure their children were looked after. But NO, they think it's just peachy to leave their kids alone in a strange country.

If they'd taken the advice of the resort and obtained childcare for their BABIES, Madeleine would be alive today. I don't care how you slice and dice it, the McCanns caused their daughter's death. Pure and simple.

I agree w/this 100%!!!!! The only thing I would change if I had made this post is I would say "the McCanns contributed to their daughter's death. Pure and Simple" I wish we knew all the evidence. Was it accidental, did someone murder her, has she been abducted...we still don't know. Whatever the outcome, the parents are to blame and should be charged!

There have been varying translations (from English to Portuguese back to English) of what Mrs. Fenn heard Madeleine saying on the night of May 1. Originally, it was Daddy, Daddy, I'm hungry, I'm hungry. Then Daddy, Daddy, I eat, I eat. The most recent version was Daddy, Daddy, I swallow, I swallow. Did she swallow pills?

I think this is all news phoney bologna.....some reports say one thing, some say this lady said she never said anything "rubbish", she said.

I want to see the court docs, the warrants, the invterviews, the diary. Where is the child? :banghead:

But, I am certainly suggesting the reporting or leaks are not all that credible.

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And this reporting has some of us, including me at times, feeling like we are on a flippin' roller coaster ride!

Mrs. Fenn reported her concerns to the resort management who then confronted the McCanns about leaving their kids alone. It's very possible she did talk to the police who didn't respond right away. The important thing is that they now have her testimony.

Who has what testimony? I have heard conflicting reports some say she DID say all of the things we have been speaking of then otheres say she is denying saying anything, quoting her saying "rubbish" to the claims. "She didn't even know they were there".

 

[Rino]

yes, that's what i'm thinking/wondering.....if GM already admitted to sedating the children, then how on earth would he have overdosed Maddie??
....these parents are worthless, imo....

They were drinking and partying. I don't even know how many times I have done dumb or foolish things in that state. If the intent was to keep them quiet to continue the evening I can see an idiot who would sedate them in the first place making the error.

 

[christine2448]

No one says that you have to believe anything. I think that its fantastic that you're here to help us look at things from the other side of that fence!!

I love what you said here to Brefie Jeana! :woohoo: :woohoo: What fun would this be if we all agreed...

on a serious note, a GOOD investigator always come in and goes back out from EVERY direction. You can form an opinion, but you close no doors. I think Brefie is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[christine2448]

No problem at all, Brefie. You take all the time you need to come to a conclusion you're comfortable with. But know that we will keep pushing the evidence in your direction. :angel:

Could you push just one piece my way??? Pullleeeeeze. And I am on your side! I haven't seen one bit of evidence yet, except the fact that the parents left their children alone to party/socialize. I haven't seen one shread of evidence outside of that yet. Got some?? Please share