Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 10

[Jdee]

ITA...in fact, it's a shame that LE didn't rush them to the hospital for bloodwork and observation to make sure that the "abductor" didn't drug them since K&G swore they hadn't and the twins were so deeply asleep.

If a stranger had been in my child's room, I'd want them to be checked out.

The only ones who remember the McCanns and their friends getting up were the McCanns and their friends. The restaurant staff claims a gray-haired man (Russell O'Brien) wasn't at dinner most of the night, and nobody moved until KM checked her children. Considering the parents and friends have been in a$$-covering mode from the beginning, I believe the staff.

Me too Cali.. Those people never left that table. For me it is the only way to explain a stranger abduction.

 

[Jdee]

I have never had a child disappear or die. I have no personal experience about that kind of grieving, although I've lost both of my parents, numerous other relatives and several very close friends. Even though I experienced profound grief for those I love, I imagine the abduction or death of a child involves a special kind of agony.
That is why the behavior of the McCanns baffles me."

I have had a very close family member lose her 3 year old little girl and I do know what it is like and it is not about tans or high teas or baloons. You become none functioning and it does not go away in a few days. It is YEARS of agony.
Great post Cali.. You listed all the reasons I sit scratching my head wondering who is lieing and why.

 

[mjak]

I wouldn't go so far as to say I completely disagree...but I still don't see how anyone suspects them of any direct foul play.

I do not suspect them of any foul play. My objection has always been that they from the get go they labled there daughters dissapearance as a stranger abduction and it seemed that was the only route the investigation was taking. Now the parents are being looked at and I believe this is appropriate and necessary. The parents have demonstarted lots of questionable behaviors; from leaving the children alone, leaving the twins unattended after discovering Maddie missing and leeding an organization that seemed to focus primarly on raising funds with an afterthought of finding there missing child. Does this make them guilty of doing something to Maddie? Absolulty not. However, It dose create suspicion in their direction and until Maddie is found they do need to be investigated.

mjak

 

[Brefie]

The only ones who remember the McCanns and their friends getting up were the McCanns and their friends. The restaurant staff claims a gray-haired man (Russell O'Brien) wasn't at dinner most of the night, and nobody moved until KM checked her children. Considering the parents and friends have been in a$$-covering mode from the beginning, I believe the staff.

Still - Why do the McCann's have a reason to lie? How do we know the tapas bar staff are not shady as all get out and they DO have reason to lie?

 

[mjak]

Still - Why do the McCann's have a reason to lie? How do we know the tapas bar staff are not shady as all get out and they DO have reason to lie?

The answer is we have no reason to believe or doubt either the parents or the staff. However, since there is a disagreement as to events that occured we do have reason to be suspicious of both accounts.

mjak

 

[Brefie]

I do not suspect them of any foul play. My objection has always been that they from the get go they labled there daughters dissapearance as a stranger abduction and it seemed that was the only route the investigation was taking. Now the parents are being looked at and I believe this is appropriate and necessary. The parents have demonstarted lots of questionable behaviors; from leaving the children alone, leaving the twins unattended after discovering Maddie missing and leeding an organization that seemed to focus primarly on raising funds with an afterthought of finding there missing child. Does this make them guilty of doing something to Maddie? Absolulty not. However, It dose create suspicion in their direction and until Maddie is found they do need to be investigated.

mjak

Absolutely they need to be investigated, however, the time has LONG passed, although it is never too late.

I am thinking that Portugal do things differently than we do here in the US and that's why I am of the opinion that some are too eager to point the finger at them. I am very familiar with the way of life in the UK and I am not surprised for a second that a private investigation team is not in place....the folks I know just don't think that way....and they are by no means simpletons. By the same token, I am not surprised Kate thought immediately that she had been abducted by a stranger....not sure what else she was supposed to think. As for leaving the twins alone in the instant she knew Maddie was gone...well, I would challenge ANYONE to act rationally in this moment. Remember - it's not 2 days later, having contemplated the obvious danger of leaving children alone, it's the *second* you notice your child is gone.

 

[Brefie]

The answer is we have no reason to believe or doubt either the parents or the staff. However, since there is a disagreement as to events that occured we do have reason to be suspicious of both accounts.

mjak

Touche :blushing:

 

[Morag]

For those who have wondered why Gerry McCann invited the aerobics instructor to sit with him, here's a picture of her with the twins:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=475704&in_page_id=1770

 

[englishleigh]

For those who have wondered why Gerry McCann invited the aerobics instructor to sit with him, here's a picture of her with the twins:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=475704&in_page_id=1770

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: The twins!! And how lovely they are...and now I can see clearly why Gerry would want her at the table, too.

 

[CaliKid]

Still - Why do the McCann's have a reason to lie? How do we know the tapas bar staff are not shady as all get out and they DO have reason to lie?

What reason does the staff have to lie? Or to turn it around, why tell the truth rather than lie? For one thing, their job might depend on it. I don't think the Mark Warner resort management would approve of their restaurant staff lying about guests staying there. It would be very bad for publicity for a business that is all about tourists and making money off them.

What reason do the McCanns have to lie? Hmmmmm, I can give you two million reasons and a barred cell.

 

[Jdee]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: The twins!! And how lovely they are...and now I can see clearly why Gerry would want her at the table, too.

You mean 'them' at the table...:angel:

 

[Brefie]

Well, did they SWEAR no-one left the table, or are they saying they didn't SEE anyone leave the table. Forget about lying.....but can they say for sure??

 

[englishleigh]

You mean 'them' at the table...:angel:

LOL...yeah...that's what I meant. :innocent: :dance:

 

[CaliKid]

For those who have wondered why Gerry McCann invited the aerobics instructor to sit with him, here's a picture of her with the twins:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=475704&in_page_id=1770

Baaaaad Morag! Bad girl! :dance:

 

[CaliKid]

About KM returning to the Tapas bar thinking someone had abducted Madeleine- how can she and GM claim they felt the resort was safe enough to leave the children alone unsupervised and then turn around to claim that their first and only explanation was of someone kidnapping her. It's another thing that doesn't make sense.

 

[Brefie]

About KM returning to the Tapas bar thinking someone had abducted Madeleine- how can she and GM claim they felt the resort was safe enough to leave the children alone unsupervised and then turn around to claim that their first and only explanation was of someone kidnapping her. It's another thing that doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense to me. She didn't believe it would happen, then when her child is missing, she cannot instantly think of another explanation.
I genuinely cannot understand why this seems so incredible??

 

[Shazza]

The staff of the tapas bar have stated that none of the McCanns or their friends left the restaurant the night of Madelaines disappearance. The actions and indiscrepancies of the McCanns throughout this investigation and discussed in the threads about Madelaines disappearance leads me to believe the McCanns are covering for someone or themselves, I do think we have not been told everything the LE know. IMO the McCanns are involved in the disappearance of Madelaine.

You will be missed Colomom, have a lovely time away.

 

[Brefie]

The staff of the tapas bar have stated that none of the McCanns or their friends left the restaurant the night of Madelaines disappearance.

I would like to know the circumstances in which they stated that no-one left the table. Since the Portuguese police are tight lipped and witnesses are forbidden from discussing the case, where is this coming from?

I am not even dismissing it, but since no-one close to the case can talk, I am really left wondering how accurate this seemingly 'rock solid fact' can be.

 

[CarpeDiem]

About KM returning to the Tapas bar thinking someone had abducted Madeleine- how can she and GM claim they felt the resort was safe enough to leave the children alone unsupervised and then turn around to claim that their first and only explanation was of someone kidnapping her. It's another thing that doesn't make sense.

Great Point. It's like Scott Peterson with "Lacy's Missing".

 

[Brefie]

Great Point. It's like Scott Peterson with "Lacy's Missing".

With all due respect - it is nothing like the same thing. Madeleine was 3 years old and did not own a car she could hop into at any time. Nor was she heavily pregnant and could have been in labor at the hospital.

When a 3 year old is not sleeping where they should be, there is EVERY chance she has been taken.

When a 27 year old is not home, there are a MILLION reasons why not, pregnant or otherwise.