Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 2

[scandi]

oops. too late. Scandi dun it already.

like i say, guest viewing no longer allowed.

there is quite a lot of good stuff there but the chatting on the threads not for chatting slows looking for the interesting parts down, unfortunately. IMO.

and we do have a portuguese journo who regularly reports.

this site was born out of Steve Huff's crimeblog, although it is not affilliated. it was a group wo got together after posting many, many comments on his board.

http://crimeblog.us/

Thanks Floh, I followed right over there by reading Steve's site and have been so impressed with the diversity and quality of it. Is Paulo the local journo? Having the UK and Portugese and other European posters is a real plus too, as it brings everything right on home into my little place to get the most one can out of the scenario and investigation. I know you won't forget us over here Sweetie, and be sure and take your vitamins and a rest in an easy chair once in awhile! ;}

I do have real hopes after reading everything today that this little wisp of a girlie, now our Madeline too, is alive out there and will be found. I just pray that with all my heart.

Scandi

 

[scandi]

Scandi,
As the others have expressed, but I want to reiterate, thanks so much for supplying us with so much info!! I'm in school so I can only really come on a lot during the summer. I really rely on you for so much of the information. You're better than Greta and Nancy Grace!!

Why thank you Tori for the nice compliment!~ Very nice.

Websleuths is my home but I do venture here and there to learn as much as I can, and I've learned when it's hot it is the time to get crackin' on following the trail. Anything that excites me I share here so we are all on the same page knowledge wise.

How about Nancy Drew? She was my hero when I was a young girl. Nancy and Ned! Scandi

 

[Floh]

Thanks Floh, I followed right over there by reading Steve's site and have been so impressed with the diversity and quality of it. Is Paulo the local journo? Having the UK and Portugese and other European posters is a real plus too, as it brings everything right on home into my little place to get the most one can out of the scenario and investigation. I know you won't forget us over here Sweetie, and be sure and take your vitamins and a rest in an easy chair once in awhile! ;}

I do have real hopes after reading everything today that this little wisp of a girlie, now our Madeline too, is alive out there and will be found. I just pray that with all my heart.

Scandi

Paulo travels to follow the news on Madeleine. see his board in the 'Portugal' forum.

he even went to Fatima today.

i believe he's based in Lisbon.

other portuguese posters filling us in on the news that is in their papers which seems to be a bit of stuff that doesn't get outside.

Scandi: i was most touched earlier in the thread when you said, "Our Floh."

made me feel all warm inside, thank you.

 

[scandi]

This is the biggest red flag yet, to my mind!

I think so too Floh, Aside from the opportunity he had to 'spy' on them, I read the 3 of them resemble the people LE mentioned right away that had been spotted. Yesterday learning about the escape paths out of their resort, hidden by trees and foliage, my brain skipped a wave as I imagined the man and woman seen darting quickly thru those paths and probably into a back door of
RM's mothers house.

It is getting to be a bit of a complicated case!

 

[scandi]

Paulo travels to follow the news on Madeleine. see his board in the 'Portugal' forum.

he even went to Fatima today.

i believe he's based in Lisbon.

other portuguese posters filling us in on the news that is in their papers which seems to be a bit of stuff that doesn't get outside.

Scandi: i was most touched earlier in the thread when you said, "Our Floh."

made me feel all warm inside, thank you.

Denada Dah'ling!

 

[CarpeDiem]

This is the biggest red flag yet, to my mind!

Oh yeah, that's glaring.

 

[Floh]

AND MORE!

FOR ME THIS IS A BIGGIE!!!

And in a second local link to the biggest news story of the year, it has been revealed that until Easter, Father John Wilson, of Wells, was priest at the church at Praia da Luz which has been visited daily by the McCann family since little Maddie was snatched.?

http://www.derehamtimes.co.uk/conte...ews&itemid=NOED23%20May 2007 13:48:49:870

OMG!!!!

my head feels like it's exploding!

 

[Floh]

HE is the vicar in the village the ex mrs Robert Murat lives!!!

was priest at the church at Praia da Luz which has been visited daily by the McCann family since Madeleine disappeared.

He still has an apartment in the area and has returned to the village and speaking from there spoke about the feelings of the ex-pat community for Mr Murat, who lived at Hockering until two years ago.

tell me THIs is coincidence????

no way!

 

[scandi]

AND MORE!

FOR ME THIS IS A BIGGIE!!!

And in a second local link to the biggest news story of the year, it has been revealed that until Easter, Father John Wilson, of Wells, was priest at the church at Praia da Luz which has been visited daily by the McCann family since little Maddie was snatched.?

http://www.derehamtimes.co.uk/conte...gory=news&itemid=NOED23 May 2007 13:48:49:870

OMG!!!!

my head feels like it's exploding!

Heavenly Sakes Alive, just when I have to leave for work! LOL

Are you thinking what I am Flo. He was to be the recipient of Madeleine? On ForMadeleine just now a poster said there was a priest with a different name who left about the time she went missing who had a problem with finances and sexuality. All these people know each other. I wonder if these two priests were both at that parish!

It certainly is something to get to the bottom of, isn't it!!

Thanks for the link. I knew nothing about this priest. Scandi

 

[scandi]

HE is the vicar in the village the ex mrs Robert Murat lives!!!

was priest at the church at Praia da Luz which has been visited daily by the McCann family since Madeleine disappeared.

He still has an apartment in the area and has returned to the village and speaking from there spoke about the feelings of the ex-pat community for Mr Murat, who lived at Hockering until two years ago.

tell me THIs is coincidence????

no way!

. . . Add in the fact the 'ex' Mrs RM is living with the pool man who works at the complex where the McCanns apt is. She gets him to help spirit Madeleine away with her, and she is taken to Mother Murats home and held until RM hires that extra car that he uses to drive Madeleine to the priests apt {a diff car so noone in town would notice him}.

How then and why does Madeleine end up in Morocco? That lady was so sure she was Madeleine as she looked her square in the eye? That was 6 days I think after she went missing. Is that right about the sighting.

WOW and OMG if this is the case! A Mind Blower for sure!!!

ETA: Maybe passing her on to another priest? I do think she is still alive. IMHO

 

[Floh]

. . . Add in the fact the 'ex' Mrs RM is living with the pool man who works at the complex where the McCanns apt is. She gets him to help spirit Madeleine away with her, and she is taken to Mother Murats home and held until RM hires that extra car that he uses to drive Madeleine to the priests apt {a diff car so noone in town would notice him}.

How then and why does Madeleine end up in Morocco? That lady was so sure she was Madeleine as she looked her square in the eye? That was 6 days I think after she went missing. Is that right about the sighting.

WOW and OMG if this is the case! A Mind Blower for sure!!!

ETA: Maybe passing her on to another priest? I do think she is still alive. IMHO

No. the girlfriend is living with the pool man who is her ex husband. and Robert Murat sometimes lives with both of them (and her daughter, daughter of the pool man).

the father/priest/vicar has an apartment in the Portuguese village where Madeleine went missing. and he used tl be the vicar at the church (which is shared anglican/catholic) in Praia da Luz where Madeleine went missing. he was there until easter. this man actually lives in Hockering where Robert Murat, suspect, has his ex wife living. with their daughter. RM and ex wife's daughter.

got it? :banghead:

 

[Jdee]

If all these connections are correct then seems a lot of people were involved. If so it is likely one will 'slip up' and not keep 'the story' straight. Probably why they keep re-interviewing. I wonder if it was pre-planned then or a crime of convenience? My mind will swing hard one way then I will read something else and my mind goes off in the other direction!

 

[Floh]

If all these connections are correct then seems a lot of people were involved. If so it is likely one will 'slip up' and not keep 'the story' straight. Probably why they keep re-interviewing. I wonder if it was pre-planned then or a crime of convenience? My mind will swing hard one way then I will read something else and my mind goes off in the other direction!

Drenching myself in this story as i am for all my waking hours while not working you can imagine how rapidly MY mind is swinging from side to side and upside down inside out, Jdee! :doh:

 

[scandi]

No. the girlfriend is living with the pool man who is her ex husband. and Robert Murat sometimes lives with both of them (and her daughter, daughter of the pool man).

the father/priest/vicar has an apartment in the Portuguese village where Madeleine went missing. and he used tl be the vicar at the church (which is shared anglican/catholic) in Praia da Luz where Madeleine went missing. he was there until easter. this man actually lives in Hockering where Robert Murat, suspect, has his ex wife living. with their daughter. RM and ex wife's daughter.

got it? :banghead:

How Funny, and yes I think it's swirling around in my brain now. I wonder if this Father Wilson's apt and home have been visited by the dogs yet?
This just broke today, right? Certainly this is why they have these two people back in today for questions, although I heard she left and he was still at the PD, and why RM has been looked at so heavily as the laison to make the match and bring her there in the rushed rental of the car!

They actually could be very close to solving this, don't you think Floh? I am so thankful that the UK has such a great rep for investigation, and I so thank this little local paper in North Saxon, well England, for giving us this HUGE new insight into the case today. It makes total sense to me!

Now they just have to find out where they have sent Madeleine off to with that nasty old man who turned his back at Ms Olle {sp} at the gas station.

Giraldo just had a little blurb on this. It will be big news!

 

[Jdee]

What scares me about this crime as it is so high profile world wide that if this person or ANY person has her they would have to want to keep her VERY bad to risk being caught with her. When you consider the whole world is looking for her! I wrote in a suggestion (when they asked for it on Sky News) that they show pictures of her with her hair altered and dressed like a boy but I have not seen that done yet. I would think that whoever has her has most likely changed her appearence unless of course they don't plan to let her out like that poor girl in Sweden.

 

[Jdee]

HE is the vicar in the village the ex mrs Robert Murat lives!!!

was priest at the church at Praia da Luz which has been visited daily by the McCann family since Madeleine disappeared.

He still has an apartment in the area and has returned to the village and speaking from there spoke about the feelings of the ex-pat community for Mr Murat, who lived at Hockering until two years ago.

tell me THIs is coincidence????

no way!

I'm not good at this but I would love to see someone that is post all the concidences going on here including that it has been stated she looks like M's own daughter. If we could see it layed out maybe we could get a better handle on the coincedences.

 

[mjak]

What do we know about Robert Murat? Why is he considered a suspect ? I have been unable online to really find an explanation for why the police suspect him. I found out he was working with the police as an interperter when a reporter got suspicios of him and notified police. He lives in the complex where Madeline dissapeared. What else is it that makes him a suspect?

mjak

 

[Jdee]

mjak.. I think the police are not releasing all the information they have on 'M' and because of this we don't know what exactly makes him a suspect but I feel they do and this really creeps me out. At first I thought he was just a 'scapegoat' as was stated but now I am wondering if there is more than meets the eye with him.

 

[mjak]

mjak.. I think the police are not releasing all the information they have on 'M' and because of this we don't know what exactly makes him a suspect but I feel they do and this really creeps me out. At first I thought he was just a 'scapegoat' as was stated but now I am wondering if there is more than meets the eye with him.

They must be keeping Information hidden. It is the only thing that explains the complete exoneration of the parents and this man being a suspect.

mjak

 

[scandi]

Hi Mjac, I think it is because he told that reporter or someone he was an investigator. Big red flag.

The dogs hit at his mothers house I think. Will have to check on that! I'm sure Floh knows all the reasons.

He knows the vicar on one hand and knows the poolman and his ex-wife on the other hand, who together with RM have been pulled in for questioning. I think on Geraldo I heard the poolman and his ex were called in as witnesses, but who knows the truth right now?

I'm wondering why these guys all keep living with their ex's?