Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread #27

[goldengirl57]

Not sure what is this about, but just seeing on UK justice forum, (I am not a member there) that a reported from the ITV has said this:

ITV reporter:
So emma what happens now then?

Emma Murphy:
Well now the work really gets underway, we understand already that police officers from this Portuguese review are on the Algarve starting to work out a plan of action, who they wish to speak to, what questions they want to put to them and amongst that group we think there are a number of men who were thoughht to be in the area at the time who have been on various sex offenders registers both in this country and abroad. Now whats important about this is it seems to suggest they are moving towards the thought that Madeleine may have been taken by a foreign group of paedophiles.


Where this 'foreign group of peados' news is coming from?

I think the media is again making up stuff

Well they said Maddy was in Greece, then Ireland, so i dont take no notice lol.

There was always the possibility the child was abducted and perhaps they have found information that needs clarifying.

I always said those to creepy pedophiles from scotland if they had been in PDL at the time well I would put them in the frame, even if they liked boys.

So I am just going to wait and see what happens for now, its dangerous to second guess the Portugese police.

It would be good if we can put this case to rest finally either way.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Why didn't the McCanns "elite team of crack detectives" find all this out?

:scared:

 

[haden]

From the McCanns statement
"In particular we request that the media consider carefully Madeleine's safety and the integrity of the investigation in their reporting."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mccanns-pleased-probe-reopens-125919017.html#g69TJ2H

Imagine Madeleine is found or there is a lead to her and then media workers go like crazy to that place or town

PJ is right to be secretive at this stage and this is very clever move from them.

Now media is going to dig dig dig.. but I hope there are no leaks either from SY or PJ until this case is resolved !

I also hope this new lead has nothing to do with the portuguese search dogs and the parking area of OC.. if it does I am going to scream and pull my hair..as it has been 6 years I am thinking of this!

 

[haden]

NEWS FROM PORTUGAL:

A report from state broadcaster RTP has this evening stated that Kate and Gerry McCann have been excluded as having had any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.

http://www.theportugalnews.com/

I would love to hear comments re this.. especially from a person who is often quoted in here - Joana Morales

Hope she realises now how much harm she has done to Madeleine herself by her blahblahing !

 

[Pisces Cloud]

NEWS FROM PORTUGAL:

A report from state broadcaster RTP has this evening stated that Kate and Gerry McCann have been excluded as having had any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.

http://www.theportugalnews.com/

I would love to hear comments re this.. especially from a person who is often quoted in here - Joana Morales

Hope she realises now how much harm she has done to Madeleine herself by her blahblahing !

Some people will just go into conspiracy mode. It's odd how they can't get their head around the idea that the McCanns just might be innocent. I remember the Joanna Yeates case and some people were convinced it was her boyfriend and even when Tabak was convicted they claimed he was framed and it was a freemasonry cover-up. I guess some people don't like to be wrong.

Also, fingers crossed that this case can move nearer to a resolution now.

 

[aa9511]

SO EXCITING with the news the case is being reopened, now lets see if the poop hits the fan lol....

I wonder what they have found. They state it has nothing to do with the Scotland Yard case.....

hummm very interesting. I hope they find what happened to her or please god even find her....

Since I personally believe she died in the apartment and the McCann's disposed of the body....makes me think the Scotland Yard has some information about how they dumped the body, maybe going off of cell phone pings or records from the entire Tapas9. They then relay this information to Portugal police, ask them to follow up something in Portugal.

I don't believe they're opening it independently...I believe the SY has asked them for their help.

I believe all of this has to do with the SY is getting close to coming to the truth of the McCanns's involvement and what exactly happened to Madeleiene...JMO.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

<modsnip> The McCanns had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance. She was taken and by someone that did not have the last name of Mccann.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-portugal-reopens-madeleine-mccann-case-122724598.html

The fact that Portugal is reopening the investigation, Proves that they did not get it right. It is time to look at it by the facts.

" Portuguese prosecutors have ordered police to reopen their investigation into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann after a review of the evidence found new leads in the case, Portugal's state broadcaster and British police said Thursday."

 

[aa9511]

Some people will just go into conspiracy mode. It's odd how they can't get their head around the idea that the McCanns just might be innocent. I remember the Joanna Yeates case and some people were convinced it was her boyfriend and even when Tabak was convicted they claimed he was framed and it was a freemasonry cover-up. I guess some people don't like to be wrong.

Also, fingers crossed that this case can move nearer to a resolution now.

Me personally, I will never exclude the possiblity that McCanns did it unless I see the real Madeleine on tv/pics alive and well. DNA test to prove it.

Otherwise I will never exclude them, sorry if that annoys some people.

 

[~n/t~]

I'm still on the fence on this case but leaning towards the parents involvement. That said I find it very suspicious the Portuguese LE are reopening the case. What evidence do they have that was overlooked the first time? Or is there more to this?

 

[Robin Hood]

Absolutely, those phone triangulations are pivotal in showing who was where and when.

Just to clarify, I meant it would show where the McCann group were, since I don't believe there were any 'abductors' or gypsies lurking in the shadows.

 

[~n/t~]

It is time people face the fact that The McCanns had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance. She was taken and by someone that did not have the last name of Mccann.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-portugal-reopens-madeleine-mccann-case-122724598.html

The fact that Portugal is reopening the investigation, Proves that they did not get it right. It is time to look at it by the facts.

" Portuguese prosecutors have ordered police to reopen their investigation into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann after a review of the evidence found new leads in the case, Portugal's state broadcaster and British police said Thursday."

So British police found new evidence and prosecutors ordered the police to reopen the case? Hmmmmmmm

 

[~n/t~]

Some people will just go into conspiracy mode. It's odd how they can't get their head around the idea that the McCanns just might be innocent. I remember the Joanna Yeates case and some people were convinced it was her boyfriend and even when Tabak was convicted they claimed he was framed and it was a freemasonry cover-up. I guess some people don't like to be wrong.

Also, fingers crossed that this case can move nearer to a resolution now.

I was one of those who suspected the boyfriend. The stats show that a high percentage of murders are committed by someone close to the victim.

 

[~n/t~]

Just to clarify, I meant it would show where the McCann group were, since I don't believe there were any 'abductors' or gypsies lurking in the shadows.

Lurking with cellphones. Lol

 

[~n/t~]

In London, Scotland Yard said the Portuguese prosecutor's decision "follows the discovery of new lines of enquiry as a result of an internal review of their original investigation" by the Portuguese police.


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/new-lea...-mccann-investigation-1.1511097#ixzz2ifJtRHdm

 

[Pisces Cloud]

I was one of those who suspected the boyfriend. The stats show that a high percentage of murders are committed by someone close to the victim.

That was understandable at the beginning. For a lot of people, though, they had him pegged as being guilty just because he didn't react in a way that they thought he should have done. Everything he did or didn't do that weekend was analysed. Theories got more & more fantastical when it became apparent that he couldn't have done it. Even the police came out and said that he wasn't a suspect. Anyway, sorry, for going OT.

 

[~n/t~]

Scotland Yard began a review of the case in May 2011 - codenamed Operation Grange - and opened a formal investigation in July this year


Portuguese police said a review team had been working since March 2011 to look back through information from the original investigation - and this process had uncovered potential new lines of inquiry.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24655826

 

[Linda7NJ]

It is time people face the fact that The McCanns had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance. She was taken and by someone that did not have the last name of Mccann.

http://news.yahoo.com/report-portugal-reopens-madeleine-mccann-case-122724598.html

The fact that Portugal is reopening the investigation, Proves that they did not get it right. It is time to look at it by the facts.

" Portuguese prosecutors have ordered police to reopen their investigation into the disappearance of British girl Madeleine McCann after a review of the evidence found new leads in the case, Portugal's state broadcaster and British police said Thursday."

Fact? I don't think so. It's not a fact until an arrests is made and Madeleine found.

IIRC you had claimed it was a fact Jane Tanners sighting was the abductor ...


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[Project35]

I'm new to this forum and before reading here I was certain the parents weren't involved and now after reading all of the theories and information that hasn't received media attention I'm not sure what to think. I am leaning more to the idea that the parents drugged the children to keep them sleeping whilst they dined but Maddie overdosed and they tried to cover it up. They would of had access to the drugs and would of had a knowledge of dosage amounts, foolproof in their eyes until it went horribly wrong, I can't understand why Kate was suspicious about the twins not waking throughout the commotion of discovering Maddie's disappearance and had to check they were still breathing yet they weren't taken to hospital to get checked over, even amidst the panic and upset of trying to find Maddie, I'd want to make sure my other children were safe. I'd like to think that she was abducted and that one day she'll be discovered if the parents are innocent. It will be very interesting to see what the new investigation uncovers but whatever happens I can't bear to think about the pain and suffering Maddie must have gone through if she is found alive.


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[hoshizora]

I'm really curious about the information they have that seems to exclude the McCanns.

I'm open to the idea of an abduction, as we all don't know what happened, there aren't any right or wrong interpretations but I really lean towards the parents involvement since I believe she died in that apartment that night. I have faith in the dogs. Or if her parents didn't do it, I think one of their friends did. I suppose it's also possible she died in the apartment at someone else's hands, but that doesn't explain some of the behaviour.

I'm willing to be wrong, of course, but I've looked at both sides of the argument and found more evidence suggesting anything but an abduction. It's actually overwhelming and I can't ignore it. It does have holes, of course, but not as much as the abduction theory.

I agree with aa9511 that the Portuguese authorities have probably reopened the case because Scotland Yard are closing in. Andy Redwood (I think that's his name?) said on Crimewatch that facts that weren't important are now at the centre of the case, so maybe the Portuguese authorities are looking over the facts they disregarded early on.

Whether the McCanns did something or she was truely abducted, I sincerely hope she is found. I have a feeling she will be found very soon.

 

[hoshizora]

I'm new to this forum and before reading here I was certain the parents weren't involved and now after reading all of the theories and information that hasn't received media attention I'm not sure what to think. I am leaning more to the idea that the parents drugged the children to keep them sleeping whilst they dined but Maddie overdosed and they tried to cover it up. They would of had access to the drugs and would of had a knowledge of dosage amounts, foolproof in their eyes until it went horribly wrong, I can't understand why Kate was suspicious about the twins not waking throughout the commotion of discovering Maddie's disappearance and had to check they were still breathing yet they weren't taken to hospital to get checked over, even amidst the panic and upset of trying to find Maddie, I'd want to make sure my other children were safe. I'd like to think that she was abducted and that one day she'll be discovered if the parents are innocent. It will be very interesting to see what the new investigation uncovers but whatever happens I can't bear to think about the pain and suffering Maddie must have gone through if she is found alive.


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Welcome! It's nice to have another mind around here.

This has been my theory as well in regards to what happened that night (and a combination of this created an accident), but we will never know for sure.

I agree with you that I find Kate's behaviour troubling that night, especially since she right off the bat said that she had been abducted without checking the surroundings and making sure she hadn't wandered outside the apartment looking for her parents, especially with an unlocked door. I think this would be most people's reaction in this situation and wouldn't jump to abduction immediately unless you couldn't find them. Kids have curious minds and they wander. Even if we disregard that and say she just "knew" and had intuition, okay, then leaving the twins in the apartment like you said is troubling if she truly thought Maddie was abducted. I would never let my children out of my sight if I thought another had been abducted, or even if I felt they had just wandered off because I don't want to lose another.