Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread No. 20

[CourtScribe]

The moderators have repeated frequently "posters need to play nice" with each other; no name-calling, no venom spitted at McCann's, no arguments with co-posters.
Still, it is hard to believe the website's given reason for extinguishing this, the most prolific Madeleine UK forum!
I am questioning the UK government/Clarence Mitchell's overarching clamps on any negative speculation of the McCann's. Jacqui Smith, UK government, who has stopped the PJ questioning again the parents and Tapas7, has especially come under much scrutiny for her actions. Her email address was posted in order to query her motivation and complain to her of UK official involvement at all in these suspects' criminal proceedings.
What does everyone think?
kathleen

 

[Salem]

How is it known that Jacqui Smith has stopped the PJ's reinterviewing?

I'm thinking maybe the forum was shut down because of the stuff that was posted about the PJ having the case "sewn up." Maybe even the PJ requested it because they didn't want that information leaked.

I believe Colomom posted the information here, yesterday or the day before, but honestly, I did not look to what the date was on the original "mirror" post.

I think the UK government needs to stay out of things, but I do support the assistance offered by the UK LE and forensic team.

Salem

 

[ThoughtFox]

I'm thinking that if these folks come here, I hope they have their facts straight, and that's really all that matters to me. I hope no one comes here just to argue or play mind games, or act childishly.

And thankfully, I don't think the UK Government can close down Websleuths. :woohoo:

 

[Salem]

Scot free?????????????? You dont think she grieves for the loss of her child??? :waitasec:

I know this question was not directed at me but....... Do I (me, myself) think she grieves the loss of her child? Quite frankly, I don't know what to think. I hope she does, I want her too, I want to think that Maddie was loved and is truely missed. However, I have some grave concerns.... I don't think a parent that refuses to be 100% honest with the investigating agency is seriously looking for their child; I don't think a parent that refuses to answer questions put forth by the investigating agency is truely looking for their child; I don't think a parent that charges for posters is truely seeking the location of their missing child; I don't think a parent that has to hire a "spokesperson" to run interference is truely being honest and looking for their missing child; I don't think a parent that leaves the area the child went missing from without having first made sure the investigating agency had the most accurate and honest information available is truely looking for their missing child.

At this point - I think both Gerry and Kate are more interested in having the media noise die down so that they can get on with their lives then they are in finding Maddie. I believe when the time comes we will see a great legal fight to keep the McCann's from going back to Portugal.

I don't begrudge them jogging or even spending money on their mortgage, however given all the money they received and the fact that it is FREE to download a picture, I definitely begrudge them the 10 cents for the posters. I begrudge them "Maddie's" website which appears to be more about making money than finding their daughter and I begrudge and judge them on their failure to be 100% honest with LE so that LE's best efforts could be put forward to find Maddie. If the McCanns were not involved and Maddie was truely abducted, I can see no evidence or media leaks that indicate the McCanns put their best efforts forward to find their daughter. None, nada, zip. So, no I don't really think they are missing and/or grieving for Maddie. Actions speak louder than words and so far, the McCanns haven't been very good with their words and their lack of action is screaming at me. And I find all of this very, very sad for Maddie.

Salem

 

[ThoughtFox]

Strange new story about a Murat look-alike! A guy who worked at the Ocean Club there really did look like Murat. His name is Symington - I bet we hear that name again, but why hasn't this likeness been noticed before?

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/32542/Lookalike-will-put-No-1-suspect-Murat-in-Clear-

There is no suggestion that Mr Symington had anything to do with the tragedy. He insisted that he was at home with his family six miles away when Madeleine vanished.

He said last night: “I had been away in England for 10 days and came back the day before Madeleine went missing. I was here on the day, and for a few days following, but then I left again for a week.

“I categorically wasn’t around on the night she vanished. I left Praia da Luz at close of business at 6pm to go home. It couldn’t have been me. The first I was aware of the story was when I arrived at work the next day.”

 

[Bandini]

I know this question was not directed at me but....... Do I (me, myself) think she grieves the loss of her child? Quite frankly, I don't know what to think. I hope she does, I want her too, I want to think that Maddie was loved and is truely missed. However, I have some grave concerns.... I don't think a parent that refuses to be 100% honest with the investigating agency is seriously looking for their child; I don't think a parent that refuses to answer questions put forth by the investigating agency is truely looking for their child; I don't think a parent that charges for posters is truely seeking the location of their missing child; I don't think a parent that has to hire a "spokesperson" to run interference is truely being honest and looking for their missing child; I don't think a parent that leaves the area the child went missing from without having first made sure the investigating agency had the most accurate and honest information available is truely looking for their missing child.

At this point - I think both Gerry and Kate are more interested in having the media noise die down so that they can get on with their lives then they are in finding Maddie. I believe when the time comes we will see a great legal fight to keep the McCann's from going back to Portugal.

I don't begrudge them jogging or even spending money on their mortgage, however given all the money they received and the fact that it is FREE to download a picture, I definitely begrudge them the 10 cents for the posters. I begrudge them "Maddie's" website which appears to be more about making money than finding their daughter and I begrudge and judge them on their failure to be 100% honest with LE so that LE's best efforts could be put forward to find Maddie. If the McCanns were not involved and Maddie was truely abducted, I can see no evidence or media leaks that indicate the McCanns put their best efforts forward to find their daughter. None, nada, zip. So, no I don't really think they are missing and/or grieving for Maddie. Actions speak louder than words and so far, the McCanns haven't been very good with their words and their lack of action is screaming at me. And I find all of this very, very sad for Maddie.

Salem

Excellent post, Salem

 

[ceeaura]

Strange new story about a Murat look-alike! A guy who worked at the Ocean Club there really did look like Murat. His name is Symington - I bet we hear that name again, but why hasn't this likeness been noticed before?

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/32542/Lookalike-will-put-No-1-suspect-Murat-in-Clear-

So Symington is on the left and Murat is on the right?

Wow.I can't believe it was not noticed before!

 

[Barnaby]

Scot free?????????????? You dont think she grieves for the loss of her child??? :waitasec:

Never saw any sign of it!

Salem's post #144 says it all!

 

[Barnaby]

I know this question was not directed at me but....... Do I (me, myself) think she grieves the loss of her child? Quite frankly, I don't know what to think. I hope she does, I want her too, I want to think that Maddie was loved and is truely missed. However, I have some grave concerns.... I don't think a parent that refuses to be 100% honest with the investigating agency is seriously looking for their child; I don't think a parent that refuses to answer questions put forth by the investigating agency is truely looking for their child; I don't think a parent that charges for posters is truely seeking the location of their missing child; I don't think a parent that has to hire a "spokesperson" to run interference is truely being honest and looking for their missing child; I don't think a parent that leaves the area the child went missing from without having first made sure the investigating agency had the most accurate and honest information available is truely looking for their missing child.

At this point - I think both Gerry and Kate are more interested in having the media noise die down so that they can get on with their lives then they are in finding Maddie. I believe when the time comes we will see a great legal fight to keep the McCann's from going back to Portugal.

I don't begrudge them jogging or even spending money on their mortgage, however given all the money they received and the fact that it is FREE to download a picture, I definitely begrudge them the 10 cents for the posters. I begrudge them "Maddie's" website which appears to be more about making money than finding their daughter and I begrudge and judge them on their failure to be 100% honest with LE so that LE's best efforts could be put forward to find Maddie. If the McCanns were not involved and Maddie was truely abducted, I can see no evidence or media leaks that indicate the McCanns put their best efforts forward to find their daughter. None, nada, zip. So, no I don't really think they are missing and/or grieving for Maddie. Actions speak louder than words and so far, the McCanns haven't been very good with their words and their lack of action is screaming at me. And I find all of this very, very sad for Maddie.

Salem

Excellent post Salem, ITA!!

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Strange new story about a Murat look-alike! A guy who worked at the Ocean Club there really did look like Murat. His name is Symington - I bet we hear that name again, but why hasn't this likeness been noticed before?

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/32542/Lookalike-will-put-No-1-suspect-Murat-in-Clear-

Hummm....supposedly Nanny P said she saw Murat talking with "creepy man". Maybe it was this guy, Symington who was talking to the pig farmer. I mentioned this on the sketch thread, I really do know a few pig farmers...they are known to work odd jobs...painting, construction.. etc. Maybe he was doing work for this guy....(thus, Claycats vision of money exchanging hands).:waitasec:

 

[Rino]

Scot free?????????????? You dont think she grieves for the loss of her child??? :waitasec:

Of couse she grieves.

But not being punished for her part in the crime is getting away scot free.

 

[gord]

Of couse she grieves.

But not being punished for her part in the crime is getting away scot free.

that remains to be seen - we have had no charges yet , the investigation is still on going - we are all waiting to see what happens next

 

[Trino]

I know this question was not directed at me but....... Do I (me, myself) think she grieves the loss of her child? Quite frankly, I don't know what to think. I hope she does, I want her too, I want to think that Maddie was loved and is truely missed. However, I have some grave concerns.... I don't think a parent that refuses to be 100% honest with the investigating agency is seriously looking for their child; I don't think a parent that refuses to answer questions put forth by the investigating agency is truely looking for their child; I don't think a parent that charges for posters is truely seeking the location of their missing child; I don't think a parent that has to hire a "spokesperson" to run interference is truely being honest and looking for their missing child; I don't think a parent that leaves the area the child went missing from without having first made sure the investigating agency had the most accurate and honest information available is truely looking for their missing child.

At this point - I think both Gerry and Kate are more interested in having the media noise die down so that they can get on with their lives then they are in finding Maddie. I believe when the time comes we will see a great legal fight to keep the McCann's from going back to Portugal.

I don't begrudge them jogging or even spending money on their mortgage, however given all the money they received and the fact that it is FREE to download a picture, I definitely begrudge them the 10 cents for the posters. I begrudge them "Maddie's" website which appears to be more about making money than finding their daughter and I begrudge and judge them on their failure to be 100% honest with LE so that LE's best efforts could be put forward to find Maddie. If the McCanns were not involved and Maddie was truely abducted, I can see no evidence or media leaks that indicate the McCanns put their best efforts forward to find their daughter. None, nada, zip. So, no I don't really think they are missing and/or grieving for Maddie. Actions speak louder than words and so far, the McCanns haven't been very good with their words and their lack of action is screaming at me. And I find all of this very, very sad for Maddie. Salem

Excellent post. You've summarize quite well what most posters have been thinking and feeling.

 

[daffodil]

Of couse she grieves.

But not being punished for her part in the crime is getting away scot free.

No,it isnt imo

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

No,it isnt imo

Hey Daff,

What is your take on the whole sketch of the "creepy man/abductor" turned pig farmer. Do you have any thoughts on any of that? Do you think there is any truth to any of it or do you think the PLE is lying.

I haven't read where you or the other McCann supporters have commented on that issue. just interested

 

[colomom]

Photofit: Police dismisses any connection to the case
PJ has already spoken to suspect

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1936074&postcount=206

 

[ThoughtFox]

Photofit: Police dismisses any connection to the case
PJ has already spoken to suspect

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1936074&postcount=206

:woohoo: I posted more thoughts on the other thread, but I am so glad they nipped this in the bud so quickly.

 

[Pinkhammer]

Jane Tanner is seriously delusional and should be under psychiatric care, IMHO.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Or she's trying too hard to "help" her friends, or to save herself from serious scrutiny. Maybe she even fooled herself that she 'saw' Madeleine - we've had people all over the world thinking they saw her.

But I would say this shoots down any credibility that Jane Tanner ever had.

 

[Texana]

Or she's trying too hard to "help" her friends, or to save herself from serious scrutiny. Maybe she even fooled herself that she 'saw' Madeleine - we've had people all over the world thinking they saw her.

But I would say this shoots down any credibility that Jane Tanner ever had.

Agreed. Her story has changed too many times to be credible--and if she was misrepresented in the press, all it would take is a few letters from her attorney to set things straight. Happens all the time, and it's not that expensive, actually. In fact, I'm sure she and her husband already have an attorney on retainer.