Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread No. 20

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=510483&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

Kate and Gerry McCann are at the centre of a bidding war between Oprah Winfrey and Barbara Walters.

Both celebrities are desperate to land an exclusive deal for the couple to talk about their missing daughter. If it goes ahead, it will be the largest publicly-known amount ever paid for a broadcast interview.

I thought Oprah claims she has never paid a guest to appear on her show? I don't know if I buy this...

 

[SleuthMom]

"because their £1.2million Find Madeleine appeal fund is expected to run dry by June."

To run dry by June??? If this is true, WHAT THE HECK ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING WITH THE MONEY??????????

 

[Texana]

"because their £1.2million Find Madeleine appeal fund is expected to run dry by June."

To run dry by June??? If this is true, WHAT THE HECK ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING WITH THE MONEY??????????

Metado is expensive, obviously. Productive, no, but expensive, yes.

 

[Claycat]

There is no truth to the bidding war.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7210340.stm

 

[Gatinho]

"because their £1.2million Find Madeleine appeal fund is expected to run dry by June."

To run dry by June??? If this is true, WHAT THE HECK ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING WITH THE MONEY??????????

As I put on another thread about the fund - the newspaper 24 Horas stated that the fund is paying 75k Euros per month to Brain Kennedy for him to pay Metodo 3, this is 50k+ GBP or maybe 100k dollars ... for what? Richard Branson is paying towards the McCanns legal defence and Brian Kennedy is giving his solicitor Smethhurst 'free'. Obviously the fund is not being used for the the McCanns legal defence in any way, shape or form. So why is the money donated by well meaning people from around the world who want to help find Madeleine being cycled around in this strange way? Why is it paying such large amounts to what seems a highly ineffective detective agency? Who chose them and why? Even Clarence Mitchell doesn't seem very impressed.

 

[gord]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...tml?in_article_id=510483&in_page_id=1811&ct=5



I thought Oprah claims she has never paid a guest to appear on her show? I don't know if I buy this...

but it is in the newspapers - it must be true

sorry a bit low - but see what I mean about papers just making up any story they want just to get the sensational angle

 

[Claycat]

Gord, the Daily Mail is not a reputable news source, per my experience. I posted a comment there. They delay putting the comments up. When I checked later, they had totally changed the wording and meaning of my comment. I wrote them an email telling them I wouldn't be using them as a source again, because they were obviously biased.

The BBC source I posted above has a good article on the fact that there is no bidding war.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Gord, the Daily Mail is not a reputable news source, per my experience. I posted a comment there. They delay putting the comments up. When I checked later, they had totally changed the wording and meaning of my comment. I wrote them an email telling them I wouldn't be using them as a source again, because they were obviously biased.

The BBC source I posted above has a good article on the fact that there is no bidding war.

O/T :furious: :furious: :furious: OH MAN! Don't you just hate it when you write a big long post, then it's lost forever when you get that stupid server is busy notice!!!

I won't go into great detail this time, but regardless if Oprah "PAYS" her guests or not...If the McCanns do go on Oprah, they will not leave empty handed. Oprah, (through her sponsors of course) has given away cars, houses, scholarships, wardrobes, cell phones, computers, (sometimes to just ONE family) Also she is noted to give large donations to the guests favorite CHARITY...(to name just a few "gifts")

Oprah's ratings have gone down slightly since becoming a backer of democratic presidential hopeful, Barack Obama. Namely the white, Christian, women of child bearing years....exactly the same group that largely supports the McCanns...

It's a win / win situation.

 

[ThoughtFox]

but it is in the newspapers - it must be true

No one here is that gullible, gord. However, I believe it is just as gullible to believe everything the McCanns and their friends say as the gospel truth.

sorry a bit low - but see what I mean about papers just making up any story they want just to get the sensational angle

I don't believe that all newspapers make up stories, and most of these stories are widely reported or confirmed with statements from the people involved.

Newspapers are not "making up" interviews with the McCanns for instance, or interviews with Jane Tanner, or interviews with other people from the resort.

 

[Gatinho]

The newspapers are printing by and large what is being fed to them by Team McCann. The problem with the newspapers is not that they make things up - but that they don't check anything or investigate glaring gaps in the story which are obvious to the rest of us. Certainly in the UK the press is on another planet compared with the 'internauts' on here and the general commentators.

 

[gord]

No one here is that gullible, gord. However, I believe it is just as gullible to believe everything the McCanns and their friends say as the gospel truth.


I don't believe that all newspapers make up stories, and most of these stories are widely reported or confirmed with statements from the people involved.

Newspapers are not "making up" interviews with the McCanns for instance, or interviews with Jane Tanner, or interviews with other people from the resort.

How many interviews you think Tanner has given to the papers ?

I wold be interested to see what you think .

 

[SleuthMom]

Gord, I understand what you are saying but yet again I am puzzled. If you do not believe everything that appears in the newspapers, then you really cannot comment on anything about this case because you are getting all this info from the same media you do not seem to believe. So what do you personally do? Pick and choose?

 

[gord]

Gord, I understand what you are saying but yet again I am puzzled. If you do not believe everything that appears in the newspapers, then you really cannot comment on anything about this case because you are getting all this info from the same media you do not seem to believe. So what do you personally do? Pick and choose?

because I dont believe everything that appears in the papers means I cant comment ?? I am not sure that is what you mean

I try to base my views on verified facts - face to face interviews that I see . Or maybe from a particular journalist that I have read before and trust more - Martin Brunt from sky news is not bad .

I know we all have to use the media out there to get the news and I suppose it is up to every individual to make their judgement .

but I have grown up with british press - especialy the tabs - heck half the stuff they print is dubious - thats why they are in and out of the libel courts so often - remenber their moto - never let the truth get in the way of the story

listen I dont know what happened to maddy - no one does apart from the people responsible - I post here because |am intersested in true crime - from all areas - I want to see justice in this case - nut as such I have not yet seen a tough enough case that proves to me the Mccaans killed their daughter

 

[SleuthMom]

because I dont believe everything that appears in the papers means I cant comment ?? I am not sure that is what you mean

First of all let me say that I appreciate your posts and I always look forward to read them. What I meant was something similar. You always talk about certain news on the Media and pretty much bash the UK press...so my point is, if MOST of the information we are getting on this case is from the press, how do you go about commenting if you are not keen about the Media? What parameters do you use to choose what you think may be true or what may be trash?

I know we all have to use the media out there to get the news and I suppose it is up to every individual to make their judgement .

My point, we all pick and choose what seems to be credible. Unfortunately, those who support the Mc Canns and those who do not dont seem to believe always from the same sources.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I had never seen the web page posted below, I thought I would post it for those of you who hadn't seen it either. What I find disturbing about it is the collage near the bottom. It's the 4th from the bottom. It has a pink background, and a picture of Madeleine as a baby with Kate, another of an older Madeleine and a poem written on it. The Poem starts out as:

This time, this place
Misused, Mistakes
Too long, Too late
Just one chance
Just one breath
Just in case there is one left.
'Cause you know,
you know, you know...

In a previous poem it said Love Mom. I wonder of Kate wrote this one too. It is very erie.

http://officialmadeleinemccann.piczo.com/?g=45730683&cr=5

 

[daffodil]

I had never seen the web page posted below, I thought I would post it for those of you who hadn't seen it either. What I find disturbing about it is the collage near the bottom. It's the 4th from the bottom. It has a pink background, and a picture of Madeleine as a baby with Kate, another of an older Madeleine and a poem written on it. The Poem starts out as:

This time, this place
Misused, Mistakes
Too long, Too late
Just one chance
Just one breath
Just in case there is one left.
'Cause you know,
you know, you know...

In a previous poem it said Love Mom. I wonder of Kate wrote this one too. It is very erie.

http://officialmadeleinemccann.piczo.com/?g=45730683&cr=5

I dont see "Love Mom" it looks more like "Love Nan" to me.Kate did NOT write those words,they are the words of a SONG by Nickleback taken from the album All The Right Reasons.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I dont see "Love Mom" it looks more like "Love Nan" to me.Kate did NOT write those words,they are the words of a SONG by Nickleback taken from the album All The Right Reasons.

Thank you for clearing that up. They should have given credit where credit is due. Surely Nickleback would appreciate the copyright of HIS/HER song being protected...huh? I noticed they gave credit to a particular potographer on a few pictures, but on one which was a cropped and rotated version of the same picture they did not credit the potographer. :waitasec:

ETA: I noticed there was a report button. I went ahead and reported them for copyright infringement. Thanks again for pointing that out Daff

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

http://officialmadeleinemccann.piczo.com/?g=45730683&cr=5

I noticed something else strange that maybe Daffodil can clear up in regards to the web sight posted above. There are 3 pictures credited to a Photographer named Paul Grover, After a google search, I find he's a pretty important man in London. Why do you suppose they hired him to photograph Madeline in a kiddie pool with makeup and no bathing suit top? Now that is weird. I could see mom & pop taking candid pictures of the kiddos swimming in the buff as being quite innocent, but a professional? It is a pretty picture of Maddie, and only reveals that she has no top on...(nothing dirty about it, except they let a grown man take pictures of their daughter without a top on). I wonder if it's the "best" of that photo shoot? That is weird.

 

[Texana]

But Paul Grover sounds like it could be the name of more than one person...maybe there's more than one guy with that name.

Just a thought.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

But Paul Grover sounds like it could be the name of more than one person...maybe there's more than one guy with that name.

Just a thought.

I suppose there are several Paul Grover's in this world, but the only two I could find in the UK was a famous (celebrity) photographer, and an architect. (Possibly the same guy?) Since it's that name printed on 3 portraits of the McCanns, (one family picture, 1 topless pool picture of Maddie, and the picture of Maddie on the floor, with her head turned back). I am guessing it's him, but maybe it's just a neighbor kid...but still, who ever it is, his name is on a picture of Madeleine that should not have been taken by anyone other than her doctor or her parents.

The McCanns are reminding me more of the Ramsey's every day. If you take 3 very famous UNSOLVED U.S. cold cases:

Jon-Benet Ramsey - Murdered Beauty Queen of wealthy parents
Natalie Holloway - Vanished at a popular foreign beach resort area
Johnny Gosch - alleged abduction by a government paedophile ring

Walla, You've got the McCanns.