Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread No. 22

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That was my thought too, about the eyebrows. If they are really different it could mean plucking.

I grabbed those other two pictures (the one showing the attached arm and the one showing the lollipop) and I will post them on the pictures thread. Thanks B. You are a brave soul to walk among the weirdos on 3A's.

:blowkiss:

Thanks for that Colomom, I'm glad that people here can view them now without having to wade through the mayhem on the 3A's. There sure are a lot of weirdos there :blowkiss:

I find those pics very disturbing!
 
I have given up on trying to load the side by side of Maddie and the ice cream and a known picture of Maddie. I can't get it to work. I suspect that the differences I see in her eyebrows may simply be a matter of age in the picture and facial expression. Plucking is a possibility but I wouldn't expect that. The picture I compared the ice cream on to is the one with her in a blue and red shirt.

mjak
 
Is it possible what looks like a lollipop could actually be one of those little mini spoons? You see those used a lot in Germany on ice-cream cones...and I'm wondering if they might not also be used in England.
 
Is it possible what looks like a lollipop could actually be one of those little mini spoons? You see those used a lot in Germany on ice-cream cones...and I'm wondering if they might not also be used in England.

That's what I thought it was, all along, it looked like the little spoons they give samples with here...also the way her mouth is, is the way it would be if she was eating something from a spoon.
 
Is it possible what looks like a lollipop could actually be one of those little mini spoons? You see those used a lot in Germany on ice-cream cones...and I'm wondering if they might not also be used in England.

hi teacherbees, I am from the UK and the best of my knowledge, we are not given mini spoons when purchasing an icecream cone like the one shown on the picture with Maddie.
The cone that she is holding looks like the type sold on the Continent( the UK do sell them) but our typical ice cream cone looks like this .


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That is why I believe the cone Maddie is holding was maybe purchased abroad, maybe Portugal. The UK do sell the the type that she is holding in the picture, Cornetto type etc, but usually they are like the one shown above
 
Have we had Madeleine's fifth birthday day yet? It's the usual end of school year crazies here so I don't remember the exact date.
 
Have we had Madeleine's fifth birthday day yet? It's the usual end of school year crazies here so I don't remember the exact date.

May 12th Tex....the birthday that never was....so sad.

They had more "celebration" on the one year anniversary of her disappearance than on her birthday. Check out the photo thread....

Let me ask you a question. If you were in their position, god forbid, would you "celebrate" (maybe remember is a better word) her vanishing day or would you remember/celebrate her birthday?? That is, of course, depending on if they could wake you from the sedatives and get you on your feet and brush your hair and you could stop crying....oh, never mind, silly question.

OMG, I cry just thinking about it.......
 
May 12th Tex....the birthday that never was....so sad.

They had more "celebration" on the one year anniversary of her disappearance than on her birthday. Check out the photo thread....

Let me ask you a question. If you were in their position, god forbid, would you "celebrate" (maybe remember is a better word) her vanishing day or would you remember/celebrate her birthday?? That is, of course, depending on if they could wake you from the sedatives and get you on your feet and brush your hair and you could stop crying....oh, never mind, silly question.

OMG, I cry just thinking about it.......

I agree. I would absolutely be making a big deal of her birthday.

I think the quiet observation speaks again to that they know Madeleine is not out there waiting for them. JMO, of course.

Did you get a chance to check out the Cold Storage book? I don't think it's in print anymore, but it's worth reading.
 
Texana, This wouldn't happen to be the book detailing the case of a young woman with the initials d.h., would it?
 
No, but in one of those six degrees of separation thingees, I know someone who did know her. I never met the parents but heard of what a wonderful family they were.

It's absolutely horrifying to think of what happened to that young woman.

You know what stands out in my memory? She had been on a date that night and so her date (and presumably the last person to see her alive) had to be eliminated as a suspect in her disappearance. It must've been somewhat scary for him to be in that position but guess what? He volunteered to do whatever was necessary to clear his name and make sure law enforcement could move on to look elsewhere.

Hmmmmm....does this NOT remind you of anyone we've read about?

One small comfort - I'm glad that her body was finally located by a rather incredible fluke, giving her family a sense of closure and chance to bury their child.
 
Have we had Madeleine's fifth birthday day yet? It's the usual end of school year crazies here so I don't remember the exact date.

McCanns mark Madeleine's birthday

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7395904.stm

The parents of Madeleine McCann have been marking the fifth birthday of their missing daughter with a low-key party at their family home.

Kate and Gerry McCann's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "Obviously, without Madeleine home yet, this is sadly just another day without her in many respects.

Gerry and Kate will, of course, mark her fifth birthday, as much for Sean and Amelie's benefit as anything else, but they will do this privately within the family."

*****
A very appropriate way to mark Madeleine's bithday under the circumstances. It must have been very painful for them. IMO
 
Well, if it was me I don't think I could think at all about celebrating her birthday. I would be absolutely depressed.
 
hi everyone

stayed away from posting for a few months as nothing seemed to be happening and we were just going round and round in circles - waiting for something to break - lots of debate about minutae of detail that neither camp could actualy prove was a bit frustrating

I see sadly that we seem to be very little forward and stuck in some sort of limbo waiting for the PJ and the prosecution to make their move .

I understand the Portugese system is different - but surely they must have sorted out the firm evidence - we were discussing this 8 months ago

My own personal view point still hasnt changed much - I still lean on the side of the Mccaas - until proved otherwise -

ah well - I see that everyone is still here battling away !! any way just a fleeting visit . Hope we are still not here in another 6 months asking the same questions
 
No, but in one of those six degrees of separation thingees, I know someone who did know her. I never met the parents but heard of what a wonderful family they were.

It's absolutely horrifying to think of what happened to that young woman.

You know what stands out in my memory? She had been on a date that night and so her date (and presumably the last person to see her alive) had to be eliminated as a suspect in her disappearance. It must've been somewhat scary for him to be in that position but guess what? He volunteered to do whatever was necessary to clear his name and make sure law enforcement could move on to look elsewhere.

Hmmmmm....does this NOT remind you of anyone we've read about?

One small comfort - I'm glad that her body was finally located by a rather incredible fluke, giving her family a sense of closure and chance to bury their child.

I know, the poor young man who took her to the concert that night lived for four years under suspicion even though he was cleared in the early days of any involvement.

I don't recall any public whining from him on that score, either, he stayed very low profile. Absolutely right, though, he took the lie detector test and did whatever he could to aid the investigation.

It was an odd fluke that allowed her to be found, finally--answer to a lot of prayer many felt--A very odd thing happened to me at that, time, too.

I was taking my then only/oldest child to Mother's Day out or a Bible study I belonged to at the time--and we were running late. Definitely left the house later than usual. Also, my radio station had been changed, and it was on a station I never listened to--the battery might have died, or something like that. But the station it was on--an a.m. station--was one I never listened to before or since.

Anyway, I heard just the tail end of the news account, that a female body had been found in a freezer, in Arizona. And I knew immediately it was her. I can't even tell you how I knew, but I knew it was her, so I called someone close to the family and it was true. I never found any other news stories about it or heard anything else after that, either. (just before the Internet took off, we had computers but email was still a good three-four years away from being common.)

I've always thought that was divine intervention. The main point is, miracles in answering mysteries do happen, even though the answer wasn't one that the family wanted, it was still a miracle and brought some measure of peace and closure for them in knowing they did not need to search or wonder forever.
 
It seems like nothing is wrong with the pic, look at this thread where there is another version of the same pic, you can clearly see nothing is wrong with her fingers or arm:

http://www.the3arguidos.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13114&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=390

Yes that was established, weird how it got distorted to show the gap in the one we had here first!

Is it possible what looks like a lollipop could actually be one of those little mini spoons? You see those used a lot in Germany on ice-cream cones...and I'm wondering if they might not also be used in England.

Never get spoons with cones in UK also if you look on the 3A's thread that I gave the link to you will see that a poster highlighted the pic to show clearly that it is a lollipop


hi teacherbees, I am from the UK and the best of my knowledge, we are not given mini spoons when purchasing an icecream cone like the one shown on the picture with Maddie.
The cone that she is holding looks like the type sold on the Continent( the UK do sell them) but our typical ice cream cone looks like this .


Honeycombmelting.jpg



That is why I believe the cone Maddie is holding was maybe purchased abroad, maybe Portugal. The UK do sell the the type that she is holding in the picture, Cornetto type etc, but usually they are like the one shown above

Weird that you say these cones sold in Portugal, someone from another board just suggested to me that the top that Madeleine is wearing in that pic is 2008????? Anyone recognise it?
Now I am not well up on young kids clothing at the minute not having any young kids but that would be very interesting & would account for the fact that she looks different, more mature, filled out. Could she still be alive & the McC's know it? One theory is that the whole thing was a set up & they know she is alive that accounts for the lack of grief!
But then what about the DNA & cadaver odour :confused:

Well, if it was me I don't think I could think at all about celebrating her birthday. I would be absolutely depressed.


Oh God me neither Sleuthmom, I would be way too sad to party, other kids or not!
 
I know a stillborn child isn't at all the same as a missing child but this is how we handle the anniversay of my son's birth and death.

First of all, while it is a time of private tears and a weighty feeling of poignant sadness that starts at the beginning of the month, I have always felt like we couldn't NOT observe the day either.

I carry the love for my second son in my heart and will until the day I die. It's not something I talk about in public, because I don't want to cause other's discomfort...but it doesn't mean I don't find reminders of his very short being on this Earth and think of him often.

My other three children are, of course, aware of the date of their brother's death - the two older ones clearly remember the day. I have always thought it was part of our family story to remember this child in some concrete way so we decided to give a yearly donation in his name to a charity. We have a family meeting sometime in the the early summer and think about what he might've been doing at this time in his life, based on what age he would be and then we pick an applicable charity or cause.

Just some of the things we've done in the past are improvements to our church nursery, playground equipment for the preschool he would've attended, money toward a running track at the elementary school, scholarships to a local Children's Choir my other children were involved in, equipment for Little League, sending a set of parents to Williamsburg to watch their child play in the Little League World series when a local area made it to the playoffs, donations to the big fireworks show in our town, money for a new sound system for our high school performing arts department, a commemorative brick at Disneyland, money for grad night at the high school....etc..

There's no huge hoopla or fanfare. Usually on the night of his actual birthday we read the acknowlegement letter received for the gift, assuming it's been received at that point.

I don't know what the McCanns did specifically but I don't have the heart to fault or judge them for however they chose to mark the day.
 
TB....you are such a good soul. It is quite amazing how many good souls have gathered in one place. I am in awe.

XXOO
 
Teacherbees,
That is such a beautiful and touching remembrance...what an inspiration and what a wonderful act every year.
 
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