Who is destroyed???
Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread No. 23
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Texana - back to your post 77. I think they can not admit things for all the reasons you posted, plus some. If they were to admit they had been neglectful or irresponsibility, the statement could be used against them. Therefore, they dare not say the words so that the prosecution will have to prove it based on the rule of law in Portugal that defines "neglect."
I also think, and this is definitely from my own prospective: It would be very hard to say some things. I know that upon the loss of someone very dear to me, I could not tell others. I could not say the words, they wouldn't come out, I didn't want them to come out. If I spoke them outloud I would have to face the reality of the situation.
However, I do not understand their refusal to talk to Maddie through the media when they are given the opportunity. That shouldn't be hard?
Yes, any acknowledgement of what Maddie might be enduring would cause the normal person to have to deal with the anguish of the guilt they would feel for having left the child in the first place. And here, the McCanns not only left her once, they left her again, after being warned, after being brought back by Mark Warner staff, after their precious daughter asked why they were not there..........
Speaks volumes,
Salem
I also think, and this is definitely from my own prospective: It would be very hard to say some things. I know that upon the loss of someone very dear to me, I could not tell others. I could not say the words, they wouldn't come out, I didn't want them to come out. If I spoke them outloud I would have to face the reality of the situation.
However, I do not understand their refusal to talk to Maddie through the media when they are given the opportunity. That shouldn't be hard?
Yes, any acknowledgement of what Maddie might be enduring would cause the normal person to have to deal with the anguish of the guilt they would feel for having left the child in the first place. And here, the McCanns not only left her once, they left her again, after being warned, after being brought back by Mark Warner staff, after their precious daughter asked why they were not there..........
Speaks volumes,
Salem
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april4sky wrote: "It's all too easy to destroy someone with repeated rumours and smears and very few actual facts".
REPLY: "It's all too easy to destroy someone and then cover it up with repeated rumours and smears and very few actual facts".
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REPLY: "It's all too easy to destroy someone and then cover it up with repeated rumours and smears and very few actual facts".
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"Make your mind up :waitasec: *see previous highlighted and underlined accusations* in one sentence they are being accused of saying nobody was searching…and then in another accused of lying when they said they were searching."
To whom was this addressed?
ITA. Also when I get caught in the media fog I remember when I was first aware of this case and how the Mccann's own actions and words brought suspicion upon them. It took awhile but eventually the tide turned against them. In the very beginning I was afraid to voice my fears that they were involved, I didn't want to say it aloud. My bottom line is they are guilty...they left her alone. The degree of their guilt is all that remains to be seen for me. I truly do hope that they are at least charged with negligence, they were negligent. That is a fact.
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A list which is clearly built on rumours and smears will not help any of us find the truth of what happened IMO. And I am only interested in the truth!!
To your question...more an observation on my part...but as you were clearly impressed enough to bring this very questionable "list" from another site.....take it if you wish.
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My answer still applies.
I think there are many people in prison who have a very good reason to disagree with yours however!!
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So true Barnaby.
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The discrepancies between what the McCanns said and what they did or have done is easily confirmed.
It's not an "if" question at this point, it's a "why."
It's not an "if" question at this point, it's a "why."
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I don't think so Texana.
Texana
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I don't think so Texana.
Thinking so don't make it so.
How about for starters, the "we won't leave Portugal without Madeleine?"
Or the "do anything to help find Madeleine" except return to Portugal and participate in a re-enactment?
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Thinking they are guilty doesn't make it so either.
I answered the leaving Portugal question as it was part of the list of accusations.
Their friends, not the McCanns refused to return for the proposed and very strange re-enactment....."Which apparently the PJ wouldn't do in the early days when it may have helped Madeleine."
And this one wasn't to be either filmed for appeals or to include other witnesses.
So who knows what the PJ were up to...more smearing I suspect!!
It's clear none of them any longer trust the PJ and questioned the "why" as the proposed re-enactment had been leaked,....now there's a surprise....and nasty "rumours" soon appeared in the Portuguese press that they were making outrageous demands to return.
I think they have been given very good reason not to trust or believe the PJ that it was being done to help "find" Madeleine...or what happened to her.
Texana if that "list" of accusations was correct don't you think the PJ would have arrested and charged the McCanns long before now? :waitasec:
And why haven't the PJ asked the McCanns to return for "questioning," at the very least, if they now have "evidence"
Do you believe the PJ have "evidence" that Madeleine is dead?
Stating facts is not the same as "smearing." It's not libel if it's true, and the McCann's know that.
Many of those facts are not rumors but well-documented contradictions the McCanns have talked about in their interviews.
Jane Tanner changed her story openly in the media time and again.
Some truths are self-evident and the McCanns don't even bother to contradict them. They just spin them in a self-serving way.
Example: They know they shouldn't have left their children alone, so they say they regret that.
However, they also spin that fact as if they were not responsible for their children. Gerry just said in that last interview that he "someone just walked in and took" Madeleine.
Yeah, duh. The door was unlocked - fact, not rumor.
Kate is the one who brought up the fact that Madeleine and her brother were crying while they were alone. Why? Because she must know someone overheard it.
In Gerry's own words on the video Madeleine "came to" and started crying.
This is so simple it's nearly painful to type it out again. The "wrong" part of it is a fact, not a rumor or a smear.
Many of those facts are not rumors but well-documented contradictions the McCanns have talked about in their interviews.
Jane Tanner changed her story openly in the media time and again.
Some truths are self-evident and the McCanns don't even bother to contradict them. They just spin them in a self-serving way.
Example: They know they shouldn't have left their children alone, so they say they regret that.
However, they also spin that fact as if they were not responsible for their children. Gerry just said in that last interview that he "someone just walked in and took" Madeleine.
Yeah, duh. The door was unlocked - fact, not rumor.
Kate is the one who brought up the fact that Madeleine and her brother were crying while they were alone. Why? Because she must know someone overheard it.
In Gerry's own words on the video Madeleine "came to" and started crying.
This is so simple it's nearly painful to type it out again. The "wrong" part of it is a fact, not a rumor or a smear.
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Yes, it seems the McCanns are smearing and spreading rumors about the PJ that they can't back up as well. The McCanns are out to destroy the PJ and that's okay with you and other McCann supporters. The McCanns are trying, (unsuccessfully I might add, except for a few groupies sprinkled about the globe) to make the PJ into the enemy. There is no actual fact or proof of any thing they have said about the Portuguese police, but it sure doesn't stop McCann supporters from trashing and bad mouthing them. The way I see it, the PJ have one heck of a slander case building. It will be interesting to see what happens.
As far as "leaks from the PJ". How do you know they are actually leaks from the PJ??? You believe rumors? You believe the papers? I think these so-called leaks come from desperate media mongers with greed filled eyes, looking for the almighty buck. Why is it slander when the media trash the McCanns, but bonafide true "leaks" when the tables are turned. Give me a break.
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing, but newspapers. ~ Thomas Jefferson
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Exactly IW!
& what about them trying to implicate Robert Murat, an innocent man who was at home with his mother all night? Only the Tapas crew claim to have seen him, not one local who actually knew him saw him there!
Well said, InterestedWoman! :woohoo:
I think the PJ should seek an apology from the McCanns at once.
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It will be a cold day in hell before that arrogant pair will apologise to anyone Thoughtfox but I have no doubt think that PJ be well vindicated in due course! I hope so anyway! The way that the McCanns have smeared PJ has done them little damage as only a very small portion of people actually still believe that pair!
I wouldn't be surprised if the people who defend the McCanns believe that Neil Entwhistle is innocent also LOL!
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