Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #27

[RichardKimble]

Naah, not carried away at all. Simply comparing to CB's modus operandi.

Carried away would be CB flying to the moon with MM or looking after her as he was desperate to be a wonderful, caring Daddy.

MOO

This modus operandi, how many apartments did he break into prior to and after Madeleine's disappearance to supposedly have murdered a victim ?

 

[tedtink]

The BKA can place a phone registered to CB, no one saw him, Tannerman is not like him, the Smiths say they don't recognise him as the man they saw that night, as you rightly say its circumstantial at best with a dodgy confession in a pub some 13 yrs ago. If he's the one then he's the one but being such a high profile case circumstantial won't cut it ,the BKA have to be 100% sure ,then some .

Tannerman was ID'd by Redwood as Totman. (almost certain)
MS said in 2020 that he doesn't recognise CB, that doesn't mean that it wasn't CB.

'At this point he thought that MADELEINE could have been the child he saw with the individual.
— Regarding the description of the individual who carried the child he states that: he was Caucasian, around 175 to 180m in height. He appeared to be about 35/40 years old. He had an average build, a bit on the thin side. His hair was short, in a basic male cut, brown in colour. He cannot state if it was dark or lighter in tone. He did not wear glasses and had no beard or moustache. He did not notice any other relevant details partly due to the fact that the lighting was not very good.

IMO this doesn't rule CB out.
MS also said in May 2007...............

'States that it is not possible for him to recognise the individual in person or by photograph.'

If he couldn't recognise the person in 2007 by photo or in person - why would he be able do so in 2020?

AFAIK there were other Smith family members who made statements in 2007 - They have not spoken to the press recently, so it's not that the 'Smiths say they don't recognise him' as you said.

P.J. POLICE FILES: MARTIN SMITH & FAMILY STATEMENTS
Maddie witness DOESN’T recognise Christian B as mystery man carrying her

JMO

 

[tedtink]

Personally I think he has a lot less than imagined, hence the lack of charges and constant drips to low quality media to justify his actions.

I'll wager especially there is no video of MM alive outside of 5A - otherwise the parents would have been briefed. It is simply unimaginable to me that this would not have occured.

Of course others hold the opposite view.

They may have been briefed, how would we know?

 

[RichardKimble]

How reliable is the Bild ?

Maddie-Verdächtiger soll im Fall Hazel Behan angeklagt werden

Braunschweig - It has been known since June 2020 that the convicted child molester Christian Brückner (44) is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Maddie McCann (then 3) in 2007.

Now, 18 months later, Brückner could actually face charges. Not in the case of Maddie, however!

During the public search for witnesses, the BKA and the Braunschweig public prosecutor received information on three further unexplained crimes with which Brückner is associated.

According to BILD information, a trial could be imminent for one of these crimes: In the case of Hazel Behan (then 20), who was raped in the Algarve in 2004, charges could be brought as early as the beginning of 2022.
His defense attorney, the Kiel star lawyer Friedrich Fülscher, reacted with surprise to the possible impending indictment: “It is astonishing that the media want to know more than those involved in the proceedings again. So either there is a leak in the investigative authorities from which inclined media benefit, or this information is not worth the paper on which it is printed. "

 

[mrjitty]

They may have been briefed, how would we know?

They said they weren't in public statements. Unless that changed later ...

 

[mrjitty]

How reliable is the Bild ?

Maddie-Verdächtiger soll im Fall Hazel Behan angeklagt werden

Braunschweig - It has been known since June 2020 that the convicted child molester Christian Brückner (44) is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Maddie McCann (then 3) in 2007.

Now, 18 months later, Brückner could actually face charges. Not in the case of Maddie, however!

During the public search for witnesses, the BKA and the Braunschweig public prosecutor received information on three further unexplained crimes with which Brückner is associated.

According to BILD information, a trial could be imminent for one of these crimes: In the case of Hazel Behan (then 20), who was raped in the Algarve in 2004, charges could be brought as early as the beginning of 2022.
His defense attorney, the Kiel star lawyer Friedrich Fülscher, reacted with surprise to the possible impending indictment: “It is astonishing that the media want to know more than those involved in the proceedings again. So either there is a leak in the investigative authorities from which inclined media benefit, or this information is not worth the paper on which it is printed. "

Personally I am sceptical of these supposed pending indictments unless HCWs office is leaky as hell.

Why pre-brief?

Charge or don't.

 

[C.greek]

Personally I think he has a lot less than imagined, hence the lack of charges and constant drips to low quality media to justify his actions.

I'll wager especially there is no video of MM alive outside of 5A - otherwise the parents would have been briefed. It is simply unimaginable to me that this would not have occured.

Of course others hold the opposite view.

Would you have imagined two weeks ago that the BKA would have been able to identify the partial fingerprint found on a knife in HB's flat and match it to CB - if that revelation is accurate?

 

[RichardKimble]

Personally I am sceptical of these supposed pending indictments unless HCWs office is leaky as hell.

Why pre-brief?

Charge or don't.

Is does seem strange to brief the press before any charges are laid.

 

[RichardKimble]

Would you have imagined two weeks ago that the BKA would have been able to identify the partial fingerprint found on a knife in HB's flat and match it to CB - if that revelation is accurate?

Surely these things should only be revealed in any trial.

 

[C.greek]

Surely these things should only be revealed in any trial.

That was not the question - the qs was whether one could have imagined a while ago that the BKA had such evidence when the PJ ruled out CB's involvement at the outset in HB's case and the BKA was denying impending charges in May 2021 and doubting even whether the case would reach court.

 

[Chiatos]

Don't forget that also unidentified DNA linked to "another crime" was found in the apartment. Source: PJ files.
It has never been disclosed what that "other crime" had been.

 

[RichardKimble]

Don't forget that also unidentified DNA linked to "another crime" was found in the apartment. Source: PJ files.
It has never been disclosed what that "other crime" had been.

But Wolters says they have no DNA linking CB to the alleged abduction,meaning this DNA is not CB's so this other crime cannot be any thing to do with CB.

 

[RichardKimble]

That was not the question - the qs was whether one could have imagined a while ago that the BKA had such evidence when the PJ ruled out CB's involvement at the outset in HB's case and the BKA was denying impending charges in May 2021 and doubting even whether the case would reach court.

But is it CB's partial print and its not reached court has it, save a media report saying it will.

 

[Hygge]

But Wolters says they have no DNA linking CB to the alleged abduction,meaning this DNA is not CB's so this other crime cannot be any thing to do with CB.

Maybe not to the abduction of MM but to the 2004 rape of Hazel B if it’s true they have a fingerprint of CB on the knife.

 

[RichardKimble]

Don't forget that also unidentified DNA linked to "another crime" was found in the apartment. Source: PJ files.
It has never been disclosed what that "other crime" had been.

Maybe not to the abduction of MM but to the 2004 rape of Hazel B if it’s true they have a fingerprint of CB on the knife.

But Chiatos was talking of unidentified DNA in 5a, CB's would be known, Wolters talks of no DNA linking his suspect, meaning if CB was in 5a its not his DNA, so this other crime is not linked to him.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Maybe not to the abduction of MM but to the 2004 rape of Hazel B if it’s true they have a fingerprint of CB on the knife.

Half a fingerprint...
One single hair in the other rape...
Any chance to re-evaluate available samples for MM?

 

[Hygge]

But Chiatos was talking of unidentified DNA in 5a, CB's would be known, Wolters talks of no DNA linking his suspect, meaning if CB was in 5a its not his DNA, so this other crime is not linked to him.

As far as I know the PJ had DNA found in the Hazel case but it was destroyed some years later. So maybe DNA from 5a was a match to the Hazel case without knowing to whom the DNA belonged?

 

[onemoremiletogo]

As far as I know the PJ had DNA found in the Hazel case but it was destroyed some years later. So maybe DNA from 5a was a match to the Hazel case without knowing to whom the DNA belonged?

Some unidentified fingerprints in the shutters (in 5A). But it would be the most evident to recheck immediately so it can be assumed it really was, but bringing no match to CB.

 

[mrjitty]

Would you have imagined two weeks ago that the BKA would have been able to identify the partial fingerprint found on a knife in HB's flat and match it to CB - if that revelation is accurate?

Is that even real?

Why would it be briefed to the media?

 

[RichardKimble]

So its alleged, a hair and a half a fingerprint match CB to the rapes, clearly this means they (BKA) have a full match to CB, Wolters say's they have no forensics to tie CB in to the disappearance , so he can be ruled out of being in or attempting to get in 5a or even exiting , so how did CB and Madeleine come together for him to have killed the girl ?