Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #28

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He didn't work at OC though.

If this stuff is actually true, it demonstrates how hard this is for police forces when they have little to go on - IMO. Even if you can develop a list of every contracting company that touched on OC in recent years, and everyone who worked for them, and then who had records ... then what?

This is why Law Enforcement loves CCTV so much - but PdL had so little of it.


GA said that CB was thoroughly investigated at the time, right?
So he'd have known that CB had worked at the OC, if that's the case.
He'd have known that CB had been deported for sex crimes.
He'd have known CB had been imprisoned for diesel theft.

He could have then checked the phone data.
 
  • #463
GA said that CB was thoroughly investigated at the time, right?
So he'd have known that CB had worked at the OC, if that's the case.
He'd have known that CB had been deported for sex crimes.
He'd have known CB had been imprisoned for diesel theft.

He could have then checked the phone data.

We've been through all this stuff before.

The problem is, there is nothing that links him to the crime.

So of all the people you develop profiles in this way (and we know there were dozens), how do you take the case forward?
 
  • #464
I suppose it depends when he had worked for the pool cleaning company.
I thought that the cleaning company mentioned in the PJ files (MW husband) didn't have the contract in 2007? (If this is the company)
I'll have a look.
If CB had worked as a 'contractor' in the past and not an actual OC employee that's probably why he wasn't interviewed at the time.

"From memory, he began servicing the "Ocean Club" tourist complex in Praia da
Luz - Lagos, between 1998 and 2000, not remembering precisely the exact dates.
--- It was his client until his services were dispensed with, he thinks because
his wife Michaela Walczuch having been ill (later being determined that she was
pregnant) and having failed to maintain the pools several times, having been at
home. The person who had contacted him, the person responsible for that service
in the "Ocean Club", was an employee named Silvia (he thinks that she still
works there). She had told him that his services were no longer required"

P.J. POLICE FILES: LUIS ANTONIO HUSBAND OF MICHAELA WALCZUCH 14 MAY 07

He did not act as a witness because he owned the company that cleaned the pool in OC- but because he knew RM.

Regardless, that company only employed a part-time employee who testified as well.

This actually now says more about the patchwork of the PJ...

Jmo
 
  • #465
We've been through all this stuff before.

The problem is, there is nothing that links him to the crime.

So of all the people you develop profiles in this way (and we know there were dozens), how do you take the case forward?

IMO he wasn't thoroughly investigated, even though Amaral says he was.
 
  • #466
IMO he wasn't thoroughly investigated.

But what does "thoroughly investigated" mean?

e.g we know German police were given his name by the Met and questioned him.

Then what?

They knew his record. Met knew about him.

It's why they break-though required an insider tipoff.
 
  • #467
As everyone knows I don't believe there is any video.

I think what is happening is basic police work.

They got the tip on CB, which fits with one of the main theories of the case - the burglar theory.

The more they looked at him, the more they have found circumstantial evidence. Accomplices who confirm he is a burglar, modus operandi. potentially stolen SIM card from OC. Inside help.

Then the rape case gave them a similar breaking/entering - plus the violence.

CB put himself in the frame with his careless talk and writings.

I do wonder though, without the body what specifically can link him to murder?

True - HB was key to British Police honing in on him.

I don’t know anything about German law but in the UK, the confession to HB (and the cumulative effect of other evidence) would be enough for a Jury to convict him without forensics.
 
  • #468
We've been through all this stuff before.

The problem is, there is nothing that links him to the crime.

So of all the people you develop profiles in this way (and we know there were dozens), how do you take the case forward?

Investigate them? Check their alibis stack up? Ask german police since he is a german national? 3 things they had on him: convicted child offender, living in the proximity of OC, contract worker for company servicing pool at OC. SHOW his photo to witnesses??

ETA: how did they choose some photos of child sex offenders to show to the witnesses instead of others (incl. CB's)?

I think we have discussed this many times before and still you are not convinced that the PJ did not do their work thoroughly. no matter how many more indications will come forward, I think you will still say that the PJ had nothing that links him to the crime at the time. so it appears as we are going in circles, with your argument staying the same no matter the new links that appear. jmo
 
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True - HB was key to British Police honing in on him.

I don’t know anything about German law but in the UK, the confession to HB (and the cumulative effect of other evidence) would be enough for a Jury to convict him without forensics.

I think under UK law the problem is proving the Actus Reus for murder unless CB confessed to some specifics.
 
  • #470
He could have just driven to Tomar from Foral that day in the Allegro, for whatever reason.
This is where the witness sightings by CT, JJ and AW might come in important. If CB's 'story' is that he was in Tomar that day and drove back to Foral for the evening, he would not have had time to be in PDL when those witness sightings were made, just a few hours before MM disappeared. So if any of them have positively ID'd the man they saw as CB, that could be important in discrediting his alibi.
 
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DBM
 
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But what does "thoroughly investigated" mean?

It means just knocking on someones door apparently, adding a dreadlock wig to CB with photo-shop and painting their vehicle with imaginary emoji's, according to GA.

I think Amaral must have investigated the wrong person (again) if that's what he says CB looked like in 2007.

:rolleyes:
 
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  • #473
I think under UK law the problem is proving the Actus Reus for murder unless CB confessed to some specifics.
Well it appears he has?
 
  • #474
He had it though a month before in foral, if we are to believe DF, right? Was he supposedly going back and forth to Tomar ? Possibly, but where did he meet with his british ex-gf the night before?
Could be though that the Tiffin Allegro was stored at a camping site there. Perhaps he’d bought it there but had to leave it because he’d driven there. He’d have to get a lift or public transport to collect.


According to JC interview with AB , CB brought the Tiffin in the Spring of 2007 from a couple who delivered the vehicle to Augsburg with CB meeting them in the car park and paying in cash €18,000.
 
  • #475
This is where the witness sightings by CT, JJ and AW might come in important. If CB's 'story' is that he was in Tomar that day and drove back to Foral for the evening, he would not have had time to be in PDL when those witness sightings were made, just a few hours before MM disappeared. So if any of them have positively ID'd the man they saw as CB, that could be important in discrediting his alibi.
I think his alibi has already been discredited by BKA. HCW already said they are not aware of any alibi.
 
  • #476
So he cleaned pools at the OC and the OC has not commented! Why was he then not interviewed from PJ as someone who worked at the OC???

Fall Maddie McCann: Brückner reinigte Pools im Hotel, aus dem sie verschwand!
Interestingly, the tip off in 2013 apparently came from a 'former friend' of CB who worked for a 'swimming pool' company. JC p298:

The appeal had a similar response in Germany with the McCanns’ televised appeal resulting in 500 tip offs with some intriguing names being thrown into the ring. Among those was Brueckner, who had apparently been fingered by ‘several’ of the callers, one of whom claiming that in 2007 he had been working for a swimming pool company based near Praia da Luz. Could this have been the ex-husband of Michaela’s pool company? The key witness had contacted Wiesbaden Police Station via an official contact formula on the XY website, on November 1, 2013, Germany TV station Spiegel reported (one must assume this was discovered by journalist Hubert Gude). Having listed the reasons he believed Brueckner was involved, the contact, who claimed to be one of his former friends, said he should be brought in for questioning immediately.
 
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P.J. POLICE FILES: LUIS FELIPE MONTEIRO FERRO

That he is employed in maintenance in the Ocean Club resort since March of 2006;
. That in this resort he is charged with maintaining the pools and all that is related to the lodgings;
...
Questioned, the deponent states that in the scope of his functions and the day before the disappearance of the child, he only came into contact with the mother of the same, whose name he does not know;
...

The deponent states that short of that service does not know of any other work carried out in the apartment since the arrival of that family in the resort and the disappearance of the girl;
. Questioned, the deponent states that days before the disappearance of the little girl, no one spoke to him strangely about the tourists, the children which accompanied them or other facilities of the resort. He also did not hear conversations of this nature with other persons;
. Regarding the presence of people or persons which presented with a strange conduct near the resort, in the past with special attention to the disappearance of the child, the deponent states that he noted nothing abnormal;
. States that only about four months ago he noticed the presence of three gypsies close to a resort warehouse, situated close to the Millenium Restaurant, who were taking existing firewood from there;
. The deponent knows that in that resort zone, as it is a zone of warehouse and also little traffic, it is frequented by individuals of gypsy origin looking for scrap;
. Various robberies have already occurred in this zone and the deponent is of the conviction that the authors of these crimes are individuals of gypsy ethnicity whose identification he does now know;
. Questioned, the deponent states that since the disappearance of the girl Madeleine, until today, he has heard no commentaries that could help clarify the motive for the disappearance, and as this, does not have more information that could help to this end;


the questions were targeted.... why did the PJ not ask him of any other people working in the maintenance of the OC?

P.J. POLICE FILES: SILVIA MARIA CORREIO ROMOS BATISTA

The head of maintenance and services, in the area of services, is responsible for the admission of employees and, in the area of maintenance, is responsible for the admission of employees and the good functioning of all equipments of the Ocean Club, including : flats, swimming pools, gardens, fences, etc.
Concerning the admission of staff, it is done in the traditional way, ie when an employee is needed for a particular area the situation is discussed between the various
heads and other employees . Usually some employee or head indicates a person he/she knows and, in most cases, resident in Lagos.
The witness, being a native of Lagos and knowing many people in that
town, tries to find out about the reputation and character of the candidate to the job.
It may happen that employees are looked for in the Centre for Employment of Lagos Either way, is always carried out a labour contract with the employee, for a
minimum of six months. A special form is filled that includes all the data identifying the employee and sometimes informations about his/her previous professional occupation.
The exception is when you hire a company to provide a service : that company is responsible for its employees, who are nevertheless under the eye of the head of works and maintenance, Mr. Joao Carlos Silva Batista .


P.J. POLICE FILES: JOAO CARLOS SILVA BATISTA

nothing from his statement! no questions about the companies and their employees hired to do some work in the OC... whereas the PJ already knew that he was responsible for their hiring.
 
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His name was first passed to police when a man who used to run a pool cleaning service with him in Portugal saw a TV e-fit appeal in May 2013.

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ETA: I think they have the date wrong as I believe the TV appeal took place in October 2013.
 
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According to JC interview with AB , CB brought the Tiffin in the Spring of 2007 from a couple who delivered the vehicle to Augsburg with CB meeting them in the car park and paying in cash €18,000.

BKA should definitely have a date for that - If it's anything like UK vehicle date transfers would be recorded.
 
  • #480
True - HB was key to British Police honing in on him.

I don’t know anything about German law but in the UK, the confession to HB (and the cumulative effect of other evidence) would be enough for a Jury to convict him without forensics.
Completely agree.IMO If Scotland Yard had primacy & all of the BKA’s evidence, then it’s highly likely he’d already be convicted in the UK.
 
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