Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect #31

[JB1510]

@Davieson

Because when you are talking about a 3 year old child , it’s extremely offensive. @SuperdadV8 has done it respectfully
all it does is make you take note without the need to highlight it.

 

[Anxala]

Thanks for the clarification!

But just to be honest, i do not think, this charge is just based on HB's and MS's statement!

What else do you think it might be based upon? Again, asking only for clarity, not for confrontation.

No matter what people in here say about JC he does seem to have a source in the BKA. He had the exclusive about the indictment a couple of hours before.

I agree he has a source. His source clearly seems to be HCW.

I just wonder why HCW has chosen JC as a spokesperson for his exclusives.

 

[Davieson]

What else do you think it might be based upon? Again, asking only for clarity, not for confrontation.



I agree he has a source. His source clearly seems to be HCW.

I just wonder why HCW has chosen JC as a spokesperson for his exclusives.

Perhaps JC has bugged his office.

 

[Dave55]

J 8

Yes, it would have to be, surely? I don't know the ins and outs of German law but I doubt it allows for 5 wholly separate accusations to be neatly packaged up into one charge/trial.

Our German (lawyer) friends on here will presumably put us straight on this.

What if there is one theme that connects the three rapes

 

[C.greek]

What else do you think it might be based upon? Again, asking only for clarity, not for confrontation.

I quoted above in another post from the Bild FF's comment about not having been given access to the statements of MS and HB. This would potentially show that the charges are not based on their statements, unless there is something else in the german legal system which would allow the exclusion of witness statements from the file that is given to the solicitor??

Again one possibility could be the autobiographic writings of CB which corroborated the witness statements?

I agree he has a source. His source clearly seems to be HCW.

I just wonder why HCW has chosen JC as a spokesperson for his exclusives.

His source doesn't need to be HCW. but irrespective of who his source is in the BKA, sources are built by trust not fame. So we cannot know how this trust was built - but the important thing to acknowledge is that JC indeed has a good source in the BKA.

 

[mrjitty]

Olive Press exclusive on the extradition was specifically sourced to HCW IIRC

It may be he just uses this as a route to the non domestic media

Doesn't olive press guy work as a tabloid stringer?

 

[SuperdadV8]

No, that has to be a translation error. Perhaps Superdad can clarify.

"Just" raping and whipping.....

 

[tedtink]

Charge #1 dates the incident between december 28th of 2000 and 8th of april 2006.

Im curious, on what kind of evidence this indication is based on! Probably some kind of metadata?

April 2006 sounds like going to jail in portugal, but why such a huge timespan before 2006?

1. At a point in time that cannot be determined more precisely between December 28, 2000 and April 8, 2006, surprising an unknown woman aged between 70 and 80 in her bedroom in her holiday apartment in Portugal. Then the masked suspect is said to have tied up and raped the victim. He then hit the victim several times with a whip. The accused is said to have recorded the entire event with a video camera.
2. On another day between December 28, 2000 and April 8, 2006, which can no longer be precisely determined, the accused is said to have killed an unknown, German-speaking girl aged at least 14 naked in the house he lived in in Praia da Luz in Portugal tied to a wooden pole in the living room. First he hit the naked girl with a whip. The accused is said to have brutally forced the girl to have oral sex. The accused also videotaped this act.

Trying to see if the dates have significance.
Possibly the date April 8 2006 was when CB's house was broken into (cleared out) when the camera was found? Or when CP went there and allegedly found some 'po-rn films'.

CP also gave evidence in the DM rape. He met CB in the early 2000's.

 

[Megnut]

I'd say photographic evidence of MM and the wooden pole would convict.

I suspect something like this exists.

To my horror.

JMO

 

[tedtink]

I'd say photographic evidence of MM and the wooden pole would convict.

I suspect something like this exists.

To my horror.

JMO

CB didn't live in that house when MM went missing or have access to it AFAIK he was living in his van at the time.

 

[SuperdadV8]

What else do you think it might be based upon? Again, asking only for clarity, not for confrontation.



I agree he has a source. His source clearly seems to be HCW.

I just wonder why HCW has chosen JC as a spokesperson for his exclusives.

I won't, because you are on my ingo-list for a long time (as many others!!). I don't like your attitude in general. But no offence so far!

Please just follow the media!

 

[SuperdadV8]

I'd say photographic evidence of MM and the wooden pole would convict.

I suspect something like this exists.

To my horror.

JMO

The BKA appeal included particular footage from his house, right...?!

 

[mrjitty]

What else do you think it might be based upon? Again, asking only for clarity, not for confrontation.



I agree he has a source. His source clearly seems to be HCW.

I just wonder why HCW has chosen JC as a spokesperson for his exclusives.

The only possibilities I can think of are that they are only based on that testimony - but that corroborates to the DM rape (which they could not have known of), or perhaps there were photos in addition to the missing video?

it presumably can't be forensic, (unknown complainant)

I hope we get some charges filed where finally there is info made public ...

 

[mrjitty]

What is not clear here is whether CB has been interrogated on these charges as part of the preliminary, pre charge investigation - maybe the witness statements are withheld until that happens, to prevent him preparing answers

 

[SuperdadV8]

What is not clear here is whether CB has been interrogated on these charges as part of the preliminary, pre charge investigation - maybe the witness statements are withheld until that happens, to prevent him preparing answers

Well, looks like he has been invited for interrogation before filing the charge maybe.

His solicitor might have answered to say nothing, if they haven't the opportunity to take a look into the files. Maybe the prosecutors decided to charge, without revealing the files. It's an offer, right?

Now, CB and FF will get access to everything, if the court will probably open the trial!

Let the games begin!

 

[Carly@lul]

I had some time out and wow I have missed a lot.

 

[tedtink]

I had some time out and wow I have missed a lot.

Welcome back.

Pick up from today (Latest CB news)- The past few months of the thread is fluff - no need to read, nothing of any significance posted IMO.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Now it's up to the court! And nobody else!

 

[tedtink]

Anklageerhebung wegen mehrerer Sexualstraftaten gegen den Verdächtigen im Fall Madeleine „Maddie“ McCann | Staatsanwaltschaft Braunschweig

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Indictment of multiple sex offenses against suspect in Madeleine "Maddie" McCann case​

PRESS INFORMATION FROM OCTOBER 11, 2022​

The public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig today filed charges against a 45-year-old German in the Regional Court of Braunschweig for multiple sexual offenses that he allegedly committed between December 28, 2000 and June 11, 2017 in Portugal.
The accused is the same person who is being investigated in connection with the disappearance of the then 3-year-old British girl Madeleine Beth McCann on May 3, 2007 from an apartment complex in Praia da Luz in Portugal on suspicion of murder.
Specifically, the accused is charged with three acts of serious rape and two acts of sexual abuse of children, specifically:

1. At a point in time that cannot be determined more precisely between December 28, 2000 and April 8, 2006, surprising an unknown woman aged between 70 and 80 in her bedroom in her holiday apartment in Portugal. Then the masked suspect is said to have tied up and raped the victim. He then hit the victim several times with a whip. The accused is said to have recorded the entire event with a video camera.

2. On another day between December 28, 2000 and April 8, 2006, which can no longer be precisely determined, the accused is said to have (??????) an unknown, German-speaking girl aged at least 14 naked in the house he lived in in Praia da Luz in Portugal tied to a wooden pole in the living room. First he hit the naked girl with a whip. The accused is said to have brutally forced the girl to have oral sex. The accused also videotaped this act.

3. On June 16, 2004 at around 3:00 a.m., the accused in Praia da Rocha in Portugal is said to have gained access to the apartment of a then 20-year-old woman from Ireland via the balcony. The sleeping woman was then awakened by the masked suspect holding a knife and brutally raped. The accused then tied and gagged the woman to a table and raped her again. He then whipped the victim on the back with a whip he had brought with him and finally forcibly performed oral sex with the victim. The accused filmed large parts of the events with a video camera he had brought with him. While the accused later fled over the balcony, the victim managed to free himself and crying to ask for help.

4. On April 7, 2007 at around 3:30 p.m., the accused is said to have ambushed a ten-year-old German girl who was playing on the rocks behind a hole on a section of beach in Salema in the district of Faro in Portugal, wearing only shoes and otherwise naked. He grabbed the child's wrist and began to perform masturbation movements on his naked penis. He asked the girl with a grin to look at his naked genitals and the masturbation movements he was making in order to sexually arouse himself. After the accused had ejaculated, he let go of the girl and fled.

5. On June 11, 2017, in the early hours of the morning at around 2 a.m. during the so-called snail festival on a playground in Bartolomeu de Messines in Portugal, the accused made eye contact with an 11-year-old Portuguese girl who was on the swings of the playground there have sat. Then, while constantly eyeing the child, the accused pulled down his trousers and underpants and made masturbation movements on his naked penis in order to sexually arouse himself, until the frightened girl ran to her father for help. The suspect was arrested on the spot by the Portuguese police.

On the basis of the indictment, an arrest warrant was also requested because the public prosecutor's office believed that there was an urgent suspicion of a crime. There is also a risk of escape and repetition.

The more than 100-page indictment was preceded by several years of very intensive and complex investigations in several European countries, in particular by the Federal Criminal Police Office.

The accused is a sex offender with multiple criminal records who has been convicted of, among other things, the sexual abuse of children.
The accused is currently serving a 7-year prison sentence for a rape he committed in Portugal in 2005.

The responsibility of the Braunschweig public prosecutor results from the fact that the accused had his last place of residence in Braunschweig before his stay abroad.
The indictment was filed with the juvenile chamber of the Braunschweig district court because the victims of some of the accused acts were children or young people and therefore there are so-called youth protection matters.

The investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance continues despite the indictment. In view of the ongoing investigations, no more detailed information on the results of the investigations to date can be given at this point in time.
In this context, we continue to ask for the help of the population. A corresponding call for witnesses with further information can be found on the website of the Federal Criminal Police Office:
www.bka.de/öffentlichkeitsfahhrung7

On October 12th, 2022 at 2:00 p.m. in the building of the public prosecutor’s office in Braunschweig, tournament street 1 in 38100 Braunschweig, the media sending out images or sound will be given the opportunity to take camera recordings in the content and scope of this press release as part of a statement. There will be no press briefing or press conference.

Hans Christian Wolters
First Prosecutor
Spokesman for the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig

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Contact person:
First Public Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters
Braunschweig Public Prosecutor 's Office Spokesman Tournamentstrasse 1
38100 Braunschweig Tel: 0531 488-1178


Translated by Google.

 

[enquirer6]

One shibboleth of McCann-accusers has been slain. It has long been held by them that the McCanns must be guilty, because offenders of Brueckner's type are serial offenders, and Madeleine's disappearance was 'one-off and unique'.

Oh, no, it wasn't.

Way back, before the name of Brueckner was ever linked publicly to the disappearance of Madeleine, Andy Redwood said that a line of enquiry was, what he termed, a 'burglary gone wrong'.

I don't think there's too much doubt, now, that he was alluding to Brueckner.