Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect #31

[Dave55]

Its not much trouble, they just put out a communication that says they suspect as he has a record of this stuff and he was in area, that he is a suspect.

They had 100 men on the case at one stage. A patsy is of no importance to them

 

[G-Unit]

Does this refer to ages of victims now or when the alleged offences took place ?
By my reckoning, only 1 victim is likely to be still a child.

In my opinion the charges relating to the children in the playground are a typical example of Brueckner's modus operandi. Oportunistic, unplanned and, in this example, stupid.

The offence against the girl on the beach is very similar, but rests upon witnesses being able to identify him beyond reasonable doubt, so not caught red-handed as in the first case.

The Behan case seems to me to have some reliance on it's similarity to the rape he has been convicted of. If he was truly guilty of that, then he is showing a different modus operandi. He has a specific detailed plan and carries it out to the letter.

The other three rapes of unknown women also follow this pattern. They, like the rape he was convicted of, seem to rely heavily on the testimony of informers.

 

[Dave55]

In my opinion the charges relating to the children in the playground are a typical example of Brueckner's modus operandi. Oportunistic, unplanned and, in this example, stupid.

The offence against the girl on the beach is very similar, but rests upon witnesses being able to identify him beyond reasonable doubt, so not caught red-handed as in the first case.

The Behan case seems to me to have some reliance on it's similarity to the rape he has been convicted of. If he was truly guilty of that, then he is showing a different modus operandi. He has a specific detailed plan and carries it out to the letter.

The other three rapes of unknown women also follow this pattern. They, like the rape he was convicted of, seem to rely heavily on the testimony of informers.

i think its absolutely reasonable to see a different MO for different crimes. Without going in to detail you will find the evidence in the first rape,,,,the american....overwhelming and in this he established his MO.
whip, machete deep throatiing... video and no doubt more.

in the Behan case it seems the MO was identical...we have to wait for details of the others.

If the defence can cite other rapes...in portugal involving whip...machete..video...deep throat...then thta introduces an elemen tof reasonable doubt...I cant see them being able to do that,

\even without other evidence... the MO is very strong evidence

 

[Lilly b]

In my opinion the charges relating to the children in the playground are a typical example of Brueckner's modus operandi. Oportunistic, unplanned and, in this example, stupid.

The offence against the girl on the beach is very similar, but rests upon witnesses being able to identify him beyond reasonable doubt, so not caught red-handed as in the first case.

The Behan case seems to me to have some reliance on it's similarity to the rape he has been convicted of. If he was truly guilty of that, then he is showing a different modus operandi. He has a specific detailed plan and carries it out to the letter.

The other three rapes of unknown women also follow this pattern. They, like the rape he was convicted of, seem to rely heavily on the testimony of informers.

Or could he of uploaded the dirty deeds on the internet?

 

[frank-cole]

German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said it was “unlikely” he will be charged over Madeleine’s disappearance ahead of the trial.

The Braunschweig-based official told the Mirror: “Anything is possible, but it is unlikely, at least in terms of time.”

But he revealed investigators are now working “solely” on the Madeleine probe after completing their work on the other cases.

Maddie McCann case now police's sole focus but breakthrough this year 'unlikely'

German investigators have dismissed reports that convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner could be charged by Christmas over Madeleine McCann's 2007 disappearance

www.mirror.co.uk

IMO convictions in those cases will be used as a part of their prosecution in the MM case. I think things will go very quiet now, for at least 6 months IMO, apart for some moaning letters, drawings & FF downplaying all of the evidence.

Now they’re solely focussed on the MM case, they have IMO -6 months to push this as far as they can. This 6 months will be one of the biggest opportunities to find Madeleine’s remains. That said, IMO there is a real possibility that the BKA will get a full confession in the months/years to come

 

[frank-cole]

i think its absolutely reasonable to see a different MO for different crimes. Without going in to detail you will find the evidence in the first rape,,,,the american....overwhelming and in this he established his MO.
whip, machete deep throatiing... video and no doubt more.

in the Behan case it seems the MO was identical...we have to wait for details of the others.

If the defence can cite other rapes...in portugal involving whip...machete..video...deep throat...then thta introduces an elemen tof reasonable doubt...I cant see them being able to do that,

\even without other evidence... the MO is very strong evidence

that’s a great comment. His criminal history shows he was both a premeditating & opportunistic offender. On the night MM disappeared IMO CB’s primary motive was to steal but that changed when he was in 5a. Perhaps the BKA have more information on that.

that said, I also think CB was the lone intruder who entered the bedrooms of the 28 children in that area during that time period.

 

[C.greek]

IMO convictions in those cases will be used as a part of their prosecution in the MM case. I think things will go very quiet now, for at least 6 months IMO, apart for some moaning letters, drawings & FF downplaying all of the evidence.

Now they’re solely focussed on the MM case, they have IMO -6 months to push this as far as they can. This 6 months will be one of the biggest opportunities to find Madeleine’s remains. That said, IMO there is a real possibility that the BKA will get a full confession in the months/years to come

I agree that they are indeed using these cases for an indictment in MM's case. Quite a few details show this is what they are doing: mentioning in this conference that the charged person is the same as the one accused for MM's murder, or mentioning that he has a string of convictions for the abuse of children. They are establishing motive and MO with these cases that somehow ties them to MM's case- they surely have more evidence than a ping!

No idea if CB will ever confess- many other psychopaths never did. as for the body, let's see if we hear of any movement on the ground in portugal in these next months. It appears patience is very important in so complex cases.

 

[frank-cole]

I agree that they are indeed using these cases for an indictment in MM's case. Quite a few details show this is what they are doing: mentioning in this conference that the charged person is the same as the one accused for MM's murder, or mentioning that he has a string of convictions for the abuse of children. They are establishing motive and MO with these cases that somehow ties them to MM's case- they surely have more evidence than a ping!

No idea if CB will ever confess- many other psychopaths never did. as for the body, let's see if we hear of any movement on the ground in portugal in these next months. It appears patience is very important in so complex cases.

I agree, they’re evidencing a pattern. i think that they’ll have far more evidence than cell site data. IMO they’ve got him in the area (that nightly now. Probably from tourist photos or videos. Corroborated with witness testimony & IMO he must have been seen by more people than those we already know about. I think think they could make an arrest now if they wanted to but it’s important they remain structured. IMO the concrete evidence will be photo(s. Other strong pieces of evidence could be online conversations about the crime or something like ‘das buch’

 

[enquirer6]

IMO convictions in those cases will be used as a part of their prosecution in the MM case. I think things will go very quiet now, for at least 6 months IMO, apart for some moaning letters, drawings & FF downplaying all of the evidence.

Now they’re solely focussed on the MM case, they have IMO -6 months to push this as far as they can. This 6 months will be one of the biggest opportunities to find Madeleine’s remains. That said, IMO there is a real possibility that the BKA will get a full confession in the months/years to come

Given that his conviction for the crime Brueckner is in prison for now, on DNA proof, Brueckner attempted to deny, I think it unlikely Brueckner will confess to anything. I have no clue how rules of admissibility of evidence works in Germany.

 

[Hygge]

Possibly there is really autobiographic evidence like Gonçalo mentioned (Das Buch)
something like a diary where CB described every crime in details. If his description would fit to the rape descriptions of HB and MS, who haven’t read CBs notices, would hat maybe be enough?
a kind of diary can contain pics as well

 

[frank-cole]

Possibly there is really autobiographic evidence like Gonçalo mentioned (Das Buch)
something like a diary where CB described every crime in details. If his description would fit to the rape descriptions of HB and MS, who haven’t read CBs notices, would hat maybe be enough?
a kind of diary can contain pics as well

HCW commented that although they don’t know the identities of the victims they thought CB had comitted other sexual crimes (before some of the victims came forward). Part of them thinking that may have been because of the testimonies, but IMO it’s also likely they have evidence for that. Such as ‘das buch’ or similar

 

[Hygge]

the MM case was again on German crimewatch ( Aktenzeichen XY) last Wednesday where they again appeal to victims to come forward, because they seem sure there are more victims.

 

[RichardKimble]

the MM case was again on German crimewatch ( Aktenzeichen XY) last Wednesday where they again appeal to victims to come forward, because they seem sure there are more victims.

But yet they only seem to believe CB is alleged to have only murdered one child, given there is every chance of being a serial sex offender, there doesn't appear to be any other appeals in relation to other missing children.

 

[Anxala]

In my opinion the charges relating to the children in the playground are a typical example of Brueckner's modus operandi. Oportunistic, unplanned and, in this example, stupid.

The offence against the girl on the beach is very similar, but rests upon witnesses being able to identify him beyond reasonable doubt, so not caught red-handed as in the first case.

The Behan case seems to me to have some reliance on it's similarity to the rape he has been convicted of. If he was truly guilty of that, then he is showing a different modus operandi. He has a specific detailed plan and carries it out to the letter.

The other three rapes of unknown women also follow this pattern. They, like the rape he was convicted of, seem to rely heavily on the testimony of informers.

^ That's more or less my impression of CB too, a low life drifter/grifter, no fixed abode, always on the look out for easy prey and an easy payday, hence the burglaries, the drug dealing, etc etc. Cunning rather than intelligent, reactive rather than proactive, reckless rather than strategic. I have no difficulty believing him to be guilty of the current child-related charges.

But, the BKA has evidence that clearly suggests otherwise if he turns out to be the serial and extremely brutal rapist and cold-blooded murderer they claim him to be. We'll just have to wait and see how the current charges against him pan out.

 

[tedtink]

Pity we didn't have a verified, qualified Criminal Profiler on here.
Mark T Hoffman's comments on CB are worth a listen for those who might not understand and who missed the first zillion threads.

 

[C.greek]

^ That's more or less my impression of CB too, a low life drifter/grifter, no fixed abode, always on the look out for easy prey and an easy payday, hence the burglaries, the drug dealing, etc etc. Cunning rather than intelligent, reactive rather than proactive, reckless rather than strategic. I have no difficulty believing him to be guilty of the current child-related charges.

But, the BKA has evidence that clearly suggests otherwise if he turns out to be the serial and extremely brutal rapist and cold-blooded murderer they claim him to be. We'll just have to wait and see how the current charges against him pan out.

They don't claim him to be the brutal rapist - he is convicted of being one

And reactive/reckless (vs strategic)?! When he went to those women's houses fully prepared to brutally rape them with the machette and the whip and the videocamera?! Is this opportunistic?! And let's just ignore for a moment that he has been charged with 3 further brutal rapes with the same more or less MO - he has been convicted for one already. Why ignore that?

 

[C.greek]

the MM case was again on German crimewatch ( Aktenzeichen XY) last Wednesday where they again appeal to victims to come forward, because they seem sure there are more victims.

Interesting they are appealing now in Germany - seems they are extending their search for other (known?) Victims in Germany. Jmo

 

[Lyndaloo]

Interesting they are appealing now in Germany - seems they are extending their search for other (known?) Victims in Germany. Jmo

Perhaps to appeal to the troubled German children shipped over to Portugal to be cared for under that fostering programme that Nicole F was signed up to? No doubt even more troubled now than they were before they left Germany… poor kids

 

[mrjitty]

They don't claim him to be the brutal rapist - he is convicted of being one

And reactive/reckless (vs strategic)?! When he went to those women's houses fully prepared to brutally rape them with the machette and the whip and the videocamera?! Is this opportunistic?! And let's just ignore for a moment that he has been charged with 3 further brutal rapes with the same more or less MO - he has been convicted for one already. Why ignore that?

I think Anxala is getting at how these might fit together with MM

Assuming he is guilty on the 3 new rapes, each shows a high degree of planning and control over the victim. Eg selecting a place of attack where he would be undisturbed for hours.


How does that fit with MM? Was it more a breakin where opportunity presented? Or did he abduct the victim to a controlled environment?

The tapas timeline of checks suggests he only had a very small window, so was it just a quick breakin? Or did those checks not happen as advertised?

 

[mrjitty]

Perhaps to appeal to the troubled German children shipped over to Portugal to be cared for under that fostering programme that Nicole F was signed up to? No doubt even more troubled now than they were before they left Germany… poor kids

One suspects so.

Assuming the fourteen year old was not murdered, you have to wonder how this was not reported... but perhaps the victim was vulnerable?