Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #37

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  • #641
I'm sure he didn't think he was signing up for six years of it, with no end in sight still. Not just the fault of MSM though is it.

You are raising the question of whether or not it is right to report a serious crime to the authorities.
Surely a matter of conscience. Which in the case of this witness has caused him to be in crisis of.
 
  • #642
You are raising the question of whether or not it is right to report a serious crime to the authorities.
Surely a matter of conscience. Which in the case of this witness has caused him to be in crisis of.
No, I'm not saying it's his own fault. What about the authorities who seem to have made no attempt to keep his identity secret? (or who did a terrible job at keeping it secret)
 
  • #643
SY were uncontactable?

Scotland Yard had no official locus in the MM investigation in 2008 and had none until they opened the case in 2013.

The procedure for Scotland Yard in 2008 was to send all information received relating to the MM case to the Portuguese investigation.
 
  • #644
No, I'm not saying it's his own fault. What about the authorities who seem to have made no attempt to keep his identity secret? (or who did a terrible job at keeping it secret)
Busching himself came forward it seems, possibly for the filthy lucre now is moaning about it if reports are true.


Helge Busching says he is the man who gave Brueckner's name to British police in 2017, around the 10th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

 
  • #645
Scotland Yard had no official locus in the MM investigation in 2008 and had none until they opened the case in 2013.

The procedure for Scotland Yard in 2008 was to send all information received relating to the MM case to the Portuguese investigation.
Still doesn't negate SY of knowing who he was.
 
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  • #647
Same story from the DM.

2 additional points:

1. He says CB checked that he understood what he meant by ‘she didn’t scream’. That’s important.

2. He called a SY tip-line in 2008 (not PJ) but never heard back.
 
  • #648
The guy blabbing in the media is really not great
Another thought, if he was a witness had he been told there is to be no up coming court case involving what he saw on tape regarding the young girl, the story being told is he was kept hidden by the BKA, so why has his cover been exposed.

It was his statement that brought the investigators to the suspect Christian Brückner. For years, the BKA has been shielding the most important witness in the Maddie McCann case, hiding him in various places in Europe. Helge B. (52) has never spoken publicly. Until now.
 
  • #649
Another thought, if he was a witness had he been told there is to be no up coming court case involving what he saw on tape regarding the young girl, the story being told is he was kept hidden by the BKA, so why has his cover been exposed.

It was his statement that brought the investigators to the suspect Christian Brückner. For years, the BKA has been shielding the most important witness in the Maddie McCann case, hiding him in various places in Europe. Helge B. (52) has never spoken publicly. Until now.
If he is being protected, do they think that he is in danger from a CB accomplice?
 
  • #650
Another thought, if he was a witness had he been told there is to be no up coming court case involving what he saw on tape regarding the young girl, the story being told is he was kept hidden by the BKA, so why has his cover been exposed.

It was his statement that brought the investigators to the suspect Christian Brückner. For years, the BKA has been shielding the most important witness in the Maddie McCann case, hiding him in various places in Europe. Helge B. (52) has never spoken publicly. Until now.
Perhaps they no longer need to use his evidence in any forthcoming trial?
 
  • #651

For past few years the press have run with the story that CB confessed about MM involvement to someone in a bar in 2017 , in addition to the reported 2008 confession .

This latest HB talk mentions no such 2017 bar confession from CB .. just that HB saw some MM news in 2017 and decided to contact police again , as he felt nothing had transpired from his 2008 call to police .

So .. has the reporting of a 2017 bar confession been incorrect.. ?

Or was there such a confession in a bar in 2017 by CB to someone else .. other than HB ?
 
  • #652
According to Michael T., CB's goal was becoming a millionaire.

According to Nakscije M., CB didn't want to go into further detail about MM's disappearence, because he wouldn't be dumb. He would be a "businessman".

A yet unknown witness told the police, CB told him to know everything about MM's disappearance and showed the witness a rape video on his mobile right after making the statement.

Theory:

Hard to think, he kept all that vile stuff on video for his own urges. Very likely, he tried to make money out of it. Dealers need customers.

Harald "Money" needed a customer, probably the "panikspatz66" In 2013.

Very likely, all that footage including CB still exists. After 2010 and further, his "business" must have ran low, with all these darkweb forums, that weren't based on trading anymore, but just sharing similar footage to get access to these kind of forums.

He got broke in Braunschweig, didn't he?

At the end, to me it seems very likely, that the videos CB took from 2004 - 2010 are based on placed orders. And they still exist somewhere.

If Helge B. will turn out to be right, why did CB removed his mask on screen and not after stopping the record? Why? CB knew that it was him on the video.

Did he want to give proof to a third party, that HE did it?
 
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For past few years the press have run with the story that CB confessed about MM involvement to someone in a bar in 2017 , in addition to the reported 2008 confession .

This latest HB talk mentions no such 2017 bar confession from CB .. just that HB saw some MM news in 2017 and decided to contact police again , as he felt nothing had transpired from his 2008 call to police .

So .. has the reporting of a 2017 bar confession been incorrect.. ?

Or was there such a confession in a bar in 2017 by CB to someone else .. other than HB ?
Perhaps someone we've never heard about and whose status has never been revealed? Maybe even someone who isn't a criminal?
 
  • #654
Perhaps someone we've never heard about and whose status has never been revealed? Maybe even someone who isn't a criminal?
Is a possibility I guess...

As is possibility that HB saw something on TV in a bar in 2017 then called police .. and press have converted this into "CB made a 2017 bar confession "

Hard to tell without the facts of course..
 
  • #655
Busching himself came forward it seems, possibly for the filthy lucre now is moaning about it if reports are true.


Helge Busching says he is the man who gave Brueckner's name to British police in 2017, around the 10th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

Right, so he HAS talked to the press before as I thought. Apologies if I am being thick but why is everyone getting excited by this latest interview?
 
  • #656
Right, so he HAS talked to the press before as I thought. Apologies if I am being thick but why is everyone getting excited by this latest interview?
Read his words. He's a witness, not a hostage. And he says (or has been quoted as saying) "It all has to come to an end"
 
  • #657
Is a possibility I guess...

As is possibility that HB saw something on TV in a bar in 2017 then called police .. and press have converted this into "CB made a 2017 bar confession "

Hard to tell without the facts of course..
Interestingly however .. just read in JC book that HB supposedly met CB in a bar in 2017 ( either in Germany / Greece / Portugal ) and CB made the second confession to HB , in addition to the 2008 one .. although perhaps based on reports from ..the Sun..
The latest talk from HB doesn’t seem to clarify this 2017 meeting particularly imo.
 
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  • #658

For past few years the press have run with the story that CB confessed about MM involvement to someone in a bar in 2017 , in addition to the reported 2008 confession .

This latest HB talk mentions no such 2017 bar confession from CB .. just that HB saw some MM news in 2017 and decided to contact police again , as he felt nothing had transpired from his 2008 call to police .

So .. has the reporting of a 2017 bar confession been incorrect.. ?

Or was there such a confession in a bar in 2017 by CB to someone else .. other than HB ?
There was reportedly a confession by CB in a bar May 2017 to DR, who was also shown a rape video on CB's phone.
 
  • #659
There was reportedly a confession by CB in a bar May 2017 to DR, who was also shown a rape video on CB's phone.
Thanks @misty48 ..perhaps that clarifies this a bit..
 
  • #660
Thanks @misty48 ..perhaps that clarifies this a bit..
I think this happened in Portugal as DR said he reported the matter to police but they said there wasn't enough evidence to warrant further investigation. Had it been reported in Germany then I think the matter would have been treated seriously, based on CB already being a suspect in the Inga disappearance.

ETA DR's reported viewing of an American woman's rape on video was not used in the DM trial 2019 so it's my opinion BKA didn't know about it at that time.
 
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