Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #40

[Consider Dudley]

Okay, so your view is that it was an unplanned abduction then?

I don't have a firm view on the matter either way. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. It could easily have been either imo.

 

[Mex]

I think the SIM card which was recovered came from a phone stolen from a holidaymaker in Carvoeiro in July or August 2007, not Praia da Luz. I will try to find & add the cite.

Carvoeiro and the cluster around Vale De Parra was certainly of interest to the SY investigation of MM's case. Although it seemed to be a hot spot for law breaking targeting tourists and their children it hadn't figured in MM's case. Despite four assaults on children sleeping in their beds.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

The only thing HCW basically asked for is the caller to CBs number on the night of 3/05/2007, its important he said, imo he thinks he can place CB near 5a but without that call he can't rule out the doubt ,that's the importance.

He asked for holidaymakers and people to come forward.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

It would be interesting to know if crime in PdL vanished for a few months after 3rd May. I suspect not, but I guess we’ll never know. All academic anyway if it turns out the sim card was nicked outside of PdL.

Obviously not.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Police absence till May 4, 2007. Police presence in PdL for the rest of the year.
Robbery supported by NF NOT in PdL.

Presence did not stop petty robberies but the point is not only PdL, it is that area of Algarve. CB knew it very very well. And that links to the other robbery with NF. I knew and know well Galé.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I don't have a firm view on the matter either way. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. It could easily have been either imo.

I can't see it as unplanned.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

After more than three years and four months of publicly saying that CB murdered English girl MM, German authorities do not appear to have any solid proof or evidence against him.

 

[Consider Dudley]

After more than three years and four months of publicly saying that CB murdered English girl MM, German authorities do not appear to have any solid proof or evidence against him.

Solid proof no, evidence obviously they do. Do you think they plucked CB at random and decided for no good reason that he took Madeleine?

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Going in circles again...
IMO, they are sure he did it.
They should have more, I doubt we know all from that chat, they may have a testimony from "a client" who saw any photo/video related to MM?!, possibly torture, and they assume the girl is dead.
Specific holes in Arade to search for another pen drive?! based on the scenario they found in the factory.
They will try to get something supportive from the next trial (other cases). If they are able to keep him in prison more years maybe some other testimonies will have more confidence to come forward. Some risk if time is enemy and anything (health, death) happen to those testimonies. Anyway, private feedback should be an option. I even think this may be the tip of iceberg. Not even refer some dubiously "closed" cases that happened nearby and farway.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Solid proof no, evidence obviously they do. Do you think they plucked CB at random and decided for no good reason that he took Madeleine?

They pointed to him only for circumstantial evidence and criminal profile.

 

[Consider Dudley]

They pointed to him only for circumstantial evidence and criminal profile.

So when they say they have concrete evidence which they have not released to the public but which would convince them that Madeleine was dead too you think that’s a lie?

 

[Consider Dudley]

They pointed to him only for circumstantial evidence and criminal profile.

Do you think CB is likely not involved in Madelein’s disappearance and if so on what basis do you rule him out?

 

[Deleted member 268165]

So when they say they have concrete evidence which they have not released to the public but which would convince them that Madeleine was dead too you think that’s a lie?

Wishful thinking.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Do you think CB is likely not involved in Madelein’s disappearance and if so on what basis do you rule him out?

I did not say CB did not do it. I said that the German authorities have not solid evidence for it.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

IMO some people seems to still think we actually know all they "only" have. IMO clearly not.

 

[Lilly b]

I did not say CB did not do it. I said that the German authorities have not solid evidence for it.

Hcw keeps mentioning pieces of the jigsaw, so I reckon, the jigsaw is nearly complete, but for a couple of pieces, he probably has a lot more pieces now, than he did a year ago, so it's all going in the right direction, imo

 

[Consider Dudley]

Wishful thinking.

How can you possibly make this claim without being privy to the full facts of the investigation? Do you seriously think the Germans have revealed everything they have on their suspect?

 

[Consider Dudley]

I did not say CB did not do it. I said that the German authorities have not solid evidence for it.

Then IMO you’re calling them liars I’m afraid because they have repeatedly stated they do have additional evidence which whilst not tantamount to solid proof, is nonetheless most compelling.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

How can you possibly make this claim without being privy to the full facts of the investigation? Do you seriously think the Germans have revealed everything they have on their suspect?

How can you possibly make the contrary claim without being privy to the full facts of the investigation?

My opinion is based on what is known for sure. For example, that after more than three years and four months of publicly saying that CB murdered English girl MM, German authorities do not appear to have any solid proof or evidence against him.

 

[Consider Dudley]

How can you possibly make the contrary claim without being privy to the full facts of the investigation?

My opinion is based on what is known for sure. For example, that after more than three years and four months of publicly saying that CB murdered English girl MM, German authorities do not appear to have any solid proof or evidence against him.

I haven’t made any claims and you haven’t explained how you are able to arrive at your claims without being privy to the full facts of the investigation. IMO it serves no purpose to dismiss the German investigation in this manner because you do so not from a position of any authority.