Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #40

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  • #601
IMO it is a misrepresentation of the facts to claim that anyone here is browbeating anyone else into surrendering to a mindless guilty verdict. Personally I think it’s very likely he did it but if you prefer to think someone else did it, I really don’t care (so long as innocent people who have already been cleared of involvement aren’t subjected to repeated sly insinuation). All that matters is what the investigation thinks and does and I am reasonably confident that they are on the right track.
BIB, I disagree. It’s almost like you and other posters have key messages that you reiterate over and over again - “there is only one suspect”, “we must trust in the investigation”, “he has been charged with five heinous crimes” etc. It’s like a campaign of trying to convince people. All based on not much IMO.
 
  • #602
Well quite.

That certainty seems to be coming from a place of hope rather than fact, since no one knows the BKA facts. That's a fact. That position is not based on anything solid and really should not be used to try and browbeat others with different views into surrendering to what is a mindless 'guilty' mindset, as seems to be increasingly what's happening on here.

If we ever get to hear the evidence against CB and it's compelling and convincing, then I'll personally have no problem accepting that the BKA has the right man. And the reservations I currently have won't be an issue because I'll accept that what they have will be both compelling enough for me to put any niggling doubts aside and render any lingering reservations null and void. That's reasonable, isn't it?

Until then, I remain with you and others on the 'innocent until proven otherwise' fence.
Perfectly reasonable. As we’ve said before, the worst scenario is one where CB is neither charged nor eliminated but I fear that’s the way it’s heading. Very poor justice for MM.
 
  • #603
Perfectly reasonable. As we’ve said before, the worst scenario is one where CB is neither charged nor eliminated but I fear that’s the way it’s heading. Very poor justice for MM.

That poor little child got lost long ago in terms of concern for what actually happened to her.

The only time she was at the epicentre of this investigation was in the days, weeks and months following her disappearance, courtesy of two police forces who actually cared about her and finding out what happened to her.

JMO
 
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  • #604
there were many anomalies in the statements from the original investigation and several suspects. I don’t see why you have to misrepresent my words to make it an attack on the parents, just so that you can passionately defend them. My motive for being on this forum is to discuss the case with an open mind and try to understand if CB is the right suspect. Yours appears to be to defend the McCanns at all costs - it’s evangelical and I can’t understand why.
“Passionate”, “evangelical” - why not go the whole hog and accuse me of worshipping the McCanns while you’re at it? Your post is utter hogwash btw, show me where I have defended the McCanns “at all costs”? Such ott statements do neither you nor this forum any favours. We’re not here to discuss the McCs anyway but it seems you are determined to keep bringing the conversation back to them. I’m amazed you’ve been allowed to get away with it tbh.
 
  • #605
BIB, I disagree. It’s almost like you and other posters have key messages that you reiterate over and over again - “there is only one suspect”, “we must trust in the investigation”, “he has been charged with five heinous crimes” etc. It’s like a campaign of trying to convince people. All based on not much IMO.
Whereas you and other posters hardly ever mention that you think HCW is barking up the wrong tree, or that his actions are unprofessional and reprehensible, or that nothing comes close to suggesting CB is guilty - lol. It’s like a campaign of trying to convince people that the German guy is a victim of a terible injustice. Bte, I’m rather surprised you didn’t add “paid shill” to your list of accusations.
 
  • #606
That poor little child got lost long ago in terms of concern for what actually happened to her.

The only time she was at the epicentre of this investigation was in the months following her disappearance, courtesy of two police forces who actually cared about her and finding out what happened to her.

JMO
Another ridiculous and unfounded assertion IMO. Did you know the PJ stopped physically searching for Madeleine after one solitary week? Absolutely shameful IMO.
 
  • #607
Another ridiculous and unfounded assertion IMO. Did you know the PJ stopped physically searching for Madeleine after one solitary week? Absolutely shameful IMO.
Why should they have carried on? She clearly hadn't wandered off on her own, so they weren't goig to come across her on the street.
I don't remember her parents physically looking at all after day one.

That is not an attack on the parents, just an observation in the interests of balance.
 
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  • #608
Justice for MM? Who is really fighting for that? Who missed its task? Who else than BKA is trying to bring more of the real truth?...Where this would be without them...
 
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Why should they have carried on? She clearly hadn't wandered off on her own, so they weren't goig to come across her on the street.
I don't remember her parents physically looking at all after day one.

That is not an attack on the parents, just an observation in the interests of balance.
I do not recall if they were re-registering their car after that day. CB maybe still in Arade? Or maybe in Foral.
 
  • #610
“Passionate”, “evangelical” - why not go the whole hog and accuse me of worshipping the McCanns while you’re at it? Your post is utter hogwash btw, show me where I have defended the McCanns “at all costs”? Such ott statements do neither you nor this forum any favours. We’re not here to discuss the McCs anyway but it seems you are determined to keep bringing the conversation back to them. I’m amazed you’ve been allowed to get away with it tbh.
Yes, too much words and masked suspicions on them but the topic is about CB, the only suspect.
 
  • #611
Why should they have carried on? She clearly hadn't wandered off on her own, so they weren't goig to come across her on the street.
I don't remember her parents physically looking at all after day one.

That is not an attack on the parents, just an observation in the interests of balance.
Why should they have carried on? Because she had not been found. Compare how long the PJ searched for a missing child with how long Welsh police searched for April Jones - 3 plus months of physical searching iirc. Not sure how much actual searching her parents did however, not that that is in any way relevant.
 
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I do not recall if they were re-registering their car after that day. CB maybe still in Arade? Or maybe in Foral.
If re registering a car is so suspicious why didn't the Germans pick up on it sooner.
 
  • #613
If re registering a car is so suspicious why didn't the Germans pick up on it sooner.
Sooner?! When? Should have they announced any relevant finding weekly?
 
  • #614
Why should they have carried on? Because she had not been found. Compare how long the PJ searched for a missing child with how long Welsh police searched for April Jones - 3 plus months of physical searching iirc. Not sure how much actual searching her parents did however, not that that is in any way relevant.
It is for police to decide how they will carry out their operational duties, no one else. Portuguese police obviously decided a week was sufficient.
Not being Portuguese, I have no quibble with that.
 
  • #615
IMO the only thing that will resolve this case to BARD are for the remains of MM to be found and a perpetrator linked to them.
I think remains, after all these years, will be "almost impossible". Maybe his confession? Probably not. I think they will try to keep in him more years with the next trial (other cases) and give "confidence" for others, eventually, come forward and open the mouth.
 
  • #616
If re registering a car is so suspicious why didn't the Germans pick up on it sooner.
The registration of the vehicle is not suspicious. It is a perfectly normal procedure. IMO
 
  • #617
It is for police to decide how they will carry out their operational duties, no one else. Portuguese police obviously decided a week was sufficient.
Not being Portuguese, I have no quibble with that.
Being portuguese, had it, what a shame, not now.
 
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