Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #40

[mrjitty]

There is an article from 2021 where he was ruled out.

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Why would that be "a blow" to MM's parents?

But in a blow to the Madeleine's parents and investigators, Germany prosecutors have said that 44-year-old had nothing to do with Gehricke's disappearance.

Bizarre tabloid efforts to manufacture CB into a serial killer before he has even been charged with one

 

[RichardKimble]

Why would that be "a blow" to MM's parents?



Bizarre tabloid efforts to manufacture CB into a serial killer before he has even been charged with one

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Madeleine McCann suspect 'is struggling with the pressure'

Christian Brueckner has told friends he 'struggles with the pressure' of being accused of 'one of the world's most infamous crimes', which remains unsolved to this day.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Consider Dudley]

Looks like CB will be cleared of the IG crime.

Hope of a breakthrough in 'German Madeleine McCann' investigation

Blonde, blue-eyed Inga Gehricke disappeared on May 2, 2015 during a family barbecue in a forest in Germany 's Saxony-Anhalt state.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I thought that had already been established year(s) ago?

 

[frank-cole]

When we see some factual evidence presented in court, we can maybe begin to make a judgement

I take your point(to a point), this case, historically, has been rife with people making cruel & unfounded judgements.

The case is, for the first time, in a very strong phase (from an investigative perspective), it’s impossible to chalk off the validity of the accusations, when considering the context & the scale of what & who are involved.
Similar scenario in the Lucy Letby case. The indications were that the police were building a strong case, hence why the majority of people anticipated that there’d be a strong case against her. Not knowing what they had against her didn’t make her factually innocent & she wasn’t. I’m glad she’s away for life.

Same applies to CB & the MM case. I think consistent rationale can be lost in such debates, hence why I shared that example

My opinion

 

[frank-cole]

Looks like CB will be cleared of the IG crime.

Hope of a breakthrough in 'German Madeleine McCann' investigation

Blonde, blue-eyed Inga Gehricke disappeared on May 2, 2015 during a family barbecue in a forest in Germany 's Saxony-Anhalt state.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I think he already had been. The prosecutors also previously commented there was no concrete evidence against CB in the IG case. They’d only investigate if there was.

As we’ve all witnessed, dog barks & pulled percentages are a sure fire way to get things wrong. Let’s see if there’s corroborating evidence.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

There is an article from 2021 where he was ruled out.

Christian Brueckner is ruled out of probe into missing German girl

Inga Gehricke - dubbed Germany's Madeleine McCann - vanished in 2015 near a factory Christian Brueckner was working on. He is the chief suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yes, I was aware of this.

My point was more that if another suspect is charged and found guilty then CB is entirely cleared.

It’s worth mentioning that CB was involved in a car accident 50km from where IG disappeared on or around the same day, IIRC 2 May. This coincidence led to him being investigated for the crime.

 

[mrjitty]

Yes, I was aware of this.

My point was more that if another suspect is charged and found guilty then CB is entirely cleared.

It’s worth mentioning that CB was involved in a car accident 50km from where IG disappeared on or around the same day, IIRC 2 May. This coincidence led to him being investigated for the crime.

"investigated" is a bit of a stretch IMO. What happens in these situations is investigations share info to see if they can help each other - sometimes it pays off. My take on the reporting is there has never been anything to connect CB to the IG case and thus nothing to investigate. I wouldn't be surprised if the IG team has looked into 100s of offenders with a particular profile and geo.

 

[frank-cole]

"investigated" is a bit of a stretch IMO. What happens in these situations is investigations share info to see if they can help each other - sometimes it pays off. My take on the reporting is there has never been anything to connect CB to the IG case and thus nothing to investigate. I wouldn't be surprised if the IG team has looked into 100s of offenders with a particular profile and geo.

Agree. The prosecutors would have to have concrete evidence to investigate him. Judging by reports, there is no concrete evidence against anybody regarding Inge’s disappearance. CB could be responsible, as could many others, but without evidence they can’t involve prosecutors.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

"investigated" is a bit of a stretch IMO. What happens in these situations is investigations share info to see if they can help each other - sometimes it pays off. My take on the reporting is there has never been anything to connect CB to the IG case and thus nothing to investigate. I wouldn't be surprised if the IG team has looked into 100s of offenders with a particular profile and geo.

'Dig up my garden': Why a woman believes German Maddie McCann is buried in her backyard

The five-year-old girl vanished in 2015 - and now a woman is urging police to focus on her home.

7news.com.au

Inga Gehricke: the missing German girl linked to new Madeleine McCann suspect

New suspect Christian Brueckner, a 43-year-old German man, is a convicted sex offender currently in prison in Germany

inews.co.uk

 

[mrjitty]

'Dig up my garden': Why a woman believes German Maddie McCann is buried in her backyard

The five-year-old girl vanished in 2015 - and now a woman is urging police to focus on her home.

7news.com.au

Inga Gehricke: the missing German girl linked to new Madeleine McCann suspect

New suspect Christian Brueckner, a 43-year-old German man, is a convicted sex offender currently in prison in Germany

inews.co.uk

Right - but we have to differentiate between loose langauge in newspaper articles and realities of investigations. The people who 'linked him' to IG were the newspapers. The reality is, he never was linked at all. Rather, as someone with a particular profile in the geo, he was checked the Stendal team working the case to see if any actual links could be found. Nothing was found.

This may seem pedantic but I think accuracy is important. He simply never was a suspect in the IG case, except in the media.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Right - but we have to differentiate between loose langauge in newspaper articles and realities of investigations. The people who 'linked him' to IG were the newspapers. The reality is, he never was linked at all. Rather, as someone with a particular profile in the geo, he was checked the Stendal team working the case to see if any actual links could be found. Nothing was found.

This may seem pedantic but I think accuracy is important. He simply never was a suspect in the IG case, except in the media.

I think CB has been linked to many crimes. Perhaps it’s the media but I feel some have been encouraged by the prosecution. The wide variety of crimes he has been linked to implies a criminal history far worse than he has been charged for. In the first six months after the appeal it was quite easy to see CB as a serial killer, just review past threads from this forum.

But most of it hasn’t resulted in any charges. HaB is the only new case.

IG was just one of many: RH, CT, JC etc. All resulting from the appeal and following media strategy of the prosecutors - why? It was so far away from reality.

 

[mrjitty]

I think CB has been linked to many crimes. Perhaps it’s the media but I feel some have been encouraged by the prosecution. The wide variety of crimes he has been linked to implies a criminal history far worse than he has been charged for. In the first six months after the appeal it was quite easy to see CB as a serial killer, just review past threads from this forum.

But most of it hasn’t resulted in any charges. HaB is the only new case.

IG was just one of many: RH, CT, JC etc. All resulting from the appeal and following media strategy of the prosecutors - why? It was so far away from reality.

This is where I feel any responsible reporting went out the window. Media was implying he committed murders like IG based on there being no evidence!

And I agree, not helped by public comments from law enforcement in Stendal.

 

[RichardKimble]

Are the MET and the Germans on the same page?


A Scotland Yard spokesman said the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007 “remains ongoing” but declined to address the question of funding.
Operation Grange, looked at over 600 people who we considered potentially significant, and at various stages individuals were considered suspects,” the spokesperson said. “As with any person who comes into the investigation we work towards proving or disproving their involvement. The MPS has not publicly named any suspect.”

Former Met detective ‘very surprised’ if Madeleine McCann probe gets funding in 2024

Scotland Yard has spent more than £13 million on the hunt for missing girl over 17 years

www.independent.co.uk

 

[frank-cole]

Are the MET and the Germans on the same page?


A Scotland Yard spokesman said the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007 “remains ongoing” but declined to address the question of funding.
Operation Grange, looked at over 600 people who we considered potentially significant, and at various stages individuals were considered suspects,” the spokesperson said. “As with any person who comes into the investigation we work towards proving or disproving their involvement. The MPS has not publicly named any suspect.”

Former Met detective ‘very surprised’ if Madeleine McCann probe gets funding in 2024

Scotland Yard has spent more than £13 million on the hunt for missing girl over 17 years

www.independent.co.uk

Interesting.

I’ve seen this type of story many a time, the funding continued each time. I’ll attach last year’s dose.

The public - us sleuths - will never receive a running commentary from SY.

Unlikely OG will tap out until the German’s charge.

Madeleine McCann case to close after 11 years and chief suspect may not be charged | LBC

The Met police investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is to close after 11 years.

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[JB1510]

Are the MET and the Germans on the same page?


A Scotland Yard spokesman said the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007 “remains ongoing” but declined to address the question of funding.
Operation Grange, looked at over 600 people who we considered potentially significant, and at various stages individuals were considered suspects,” the spokesperson said. “As with any person who comes into the investigation we work towards proving or disproving their involvement. The MPS has not publicly named any suspect.”

Former Met detective ‘very surprised’ if Madeleine McCann probe gets funding in 2024

Scotland Yard has spent more than £13 million on the hunt for missing girl over 17 years

www.independent.co.uk

Sounds like another “former “ officer who has not been keeping up with the live investigations .

 

[Anxala]

Are the MET and the Germans on the same page?

A Scotland Yard spokesman said the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007 “remains ongoing” but declined to address the question of funding.
Operation Grange, looked at over 600 people who we considered potentially significant, and at various stages individuals were considered suspects,” the spokesperson said. “As with any person who comes into the investigation we work towards proving or disproving their involvement. The MPS has not publicly named any suspect.”

Former Met detective ‘very surprised’ if Madeleine McCann probe gets funding in 2024

Scotland Yard has spent more than £13 million on the hunt for missing girl over 17 years

www.independent.co.uk

Were they ever on the same page? I'm not sure they were/are. The OG's remit was to investigate an abduction theory to the exclusion of all other possibilities and they're here in Dec 2023 still with nothing to show for their years of funding. MM's still a missing child as far as OG's concerned.

The BKA, on the other hand, not alone has a suspect but one they're 100% sure abducted and murdered MM and one they plan to officially charge any time now... in the near future... at some time in the future... or maybe never? We just don't know and the Met equally doesn't know so I can see why the Met is keeping its options open and possibly its powder dry until such time as it sees where, if anywhere, the BKA investigation goes.

Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone!

 

[RichardKimble]

Were they ever on the same page? I'm not sure they were/are. The OG's remit was to investigate an abduction theory to the exclusion of all other possibilities and they're here in Dec 2023 still with nothing to show for its years of funding. MM's still a missing child as far as OG's concerned.

The BKA, on the other hand, not alone has a suspect but one they're 100% sure abducted and murdered MM and one they plan to officially charge any time now... in the near future... at some time in the future... or maybe never? We just don't know and the Met equally doesn't know so I can see why the Met is keeping its options open and possibly its powder dry until such time as it sees where, if anywhere, the BKA investigation goes.

Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone!

Happy New year to you.

It's a strange one, MM is either missing ,murdered or she's not.

 

[Davieson]

Happy New year to you.

It's a strange one, MM is either missing ,murdered or she's not.

Murder is very specific. I wonder what evidence there is for that assertion.
Will we ever know?

 

[RichardKimble]

Murder is very specific. I wonder what evidence there is for that assertion.
Will we ever know?

I'd venture we'll be asking the very same this time next year.

 

[Anxala]

Murder is very specific. I wonder what evidence there is for that assertion.
Will we ever know?

I'd venture we'll be asking the very same this time next year.

We'll only ever know if CB is charged and the case goes to trial.

My end of year prediction is that we'll never know because he'll never be charged. Not in 2024 or any subsequent year.

Good if I'm wrong, though. A charge and a trial would at least put an end to this farce. JMO.