Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

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This gets more bizarre by the day.
It's in the German press as well, Google translate.


Brunswick. Suspect in the Madeleine McCann case: He is in prison for a bizarre payment, but it is questionable how much longer.

For suspecting Madeleine McCann, who has disappeared for more than 18 years Christian B. There is another longer prison term in the offing. „We are currently examining the payment of the fine“, said the spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, Hans Christian Wolters. „If it turns out that the transfer actually happened accidentally, there could be a refund“, he said.

This would extend the time in prison for the 48-year-old German from September 17th to January 6th, 2026. „Spiegel“ had previously reported on the renewed change in the release date. In June it became known through the news magazine that a woman had paid an outstanding fine of around 1,450 euros for the sex offender with a criminal record.

Transfer of the fine just misunderstanding?​



Accordingly, the former BKA employee transferred the money, but later described the transfer as a „misunderstanding“. She thought the punishment was related to an insult against a law enforcement employee. When she found out that it was about bodily harm, among other things, it was too late.


Christian B. has been in focus for several years because German investigators suspected him of murder in the case of three-year-old Madeleine „Maddie“ McCann, who disappeared from a Portuguese holiday resort in 2007, and have also publicly stated this. But there are no charges against the «Maddie» complex; the presumption of innocence applies.

A few months of prison time still open​

Christian B. is currently serving a prison sentence for the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal, to which he was sentenced by the Braunschweig Regional Court in 2019. In October 2024, after a trial, he was acquitted of three counts of rape and two counts of child sexual abuse.

The former BKA employee played a supporting role in this trial because she contacted the defense attorney Friedrich Fülscher. However, no statement was made in the criminal proceedings.

With a view to the impending release from prison, there has recently been speculation that the suspect could flee abroad. Then he might no longer be available to German investigators if he were charged.

 
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Unfortunately, I don’t think the lady is very well.
JMO
Indeed, I would agree and judging from Spiegel's article, it appears she said she dropped the wiretapping accusation because she suffered from a delusional disorder at the time?? Or something along those lines, if I am not mistaken?! So if this is true, we could agree that the current BKA investigation has not used any tricks or such, (which would also not been acceptable in court). They are trying to do everything by the book jmo

(S+) Fall Madeleine McCann: Verdächtiger Christian B. könnte länger in Haft bleiben
 
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Indeed, I would agree and judging from Spiegel's article, it appears she said she dropped the wiretapping accusation because she suffered from a delusional disorder at the time?? Or something along those lines, if I am not mistaken?! So if this is true, we could agree that the current BKA investigation has not used any tricks or such, (which would also not been acceptable in court). They are trying to do everything by the book jmo

(S+) Fall Madeleine McCann: Verdächtiger Christian B. könnte länger in Haft bleiben
But someone leaked her details to the media - why?
 
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But someone leaked her details to the media - why?
Was it really? Or just that she was working in the BKA and was the same that had accused BKA of wiretapping CB's cell?
 
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It's in the German press as well, Google translate.


Brunswick. Suspect in the Madeleine McCann case: He is in prison for a bizarre payment, but it is questionable how much longer.

For suspecting Madeleine McCann, who has disappeared for more than 18 years Christian B. There is another longer prison term in the offing. „We are currently examining the payment of the fine“, said the spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, Hans Christian Wolters. „If it turns out that the transfer actually happened accidentally, there could be a refund“, he said.

This would extend the time in prison for the 48-year-old German from September 17th to January 6th, 2026. „Spiegel“ had previously reported on the renewed change in the release date. In June it became known through the news magazine that a woman had paid an outstanding fine of around 1,450 euros for the sex offender with a criminal record.

Transfer of the fine just misunderstanding?​



Accordingly, the former BKA employee transferred the money, but later described the transfer as a „misunderstanding“. She thought the punishment was related to an insult against a law enforcement employee. When she found out that it was about bodily harm, among other things, it was too late.


Christian B. has been in focus for several years because German investigators suspected him of murder in the case of three-year-old Madeleine „Maddie“ McCann, who disappeared from a Portuguese holiday resort in 2007, and have also publicly stated this. But there are no charges against the «Maddie» complex; the presumption of innocence applies.

A few months of prison time still open​

Christian B. is currently serving a prison sentence for the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Portugal, to which he was sentenced by the Braunschweig Regional Court in 2019. In October 2024, after a trial, he was acquitted of three counts of rape and two counts of child sexual abuse.

The former BKA employee played a supporting role in this trial because she contacted the defense attorney Friedrich Fülscher. However, no statement was made in the criminal proceedings.

With a view to the impending release from prison, there has recently been speculation that the suspect could flee abroad. Then he might no longer be available to German investigators if he were charged.

Play with fire and you get burned. In this case she’s gotten involved & lost her money. This won’t be refunded or reversed imo. Unfortunately it has brought forward the ‘at risk’ date. Because the sooner he’s out the sooner he becomes a danger to women & children.

Sadly there is some CB funding & plenty of giggles in the gossip clubs. So either way, the money will reach him.
 
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Was it really? Or just that she was working in the BKA and was the same that had accused BKA of wiretapping CB's cell?
Wiretapping - if indeed that’s what it was, is something the defence attacked in the previous trial. I don’t think they’d be after it unless it involved CB blabbing something incriminating.

If so, I wouldn’t be surprised if the defence put a lot of weight behind having this inadmissible, but either way if it’s incriminating I’m sure the public will find out.
 
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Where the dogs alerted, 16 DNA samples were obtained and tested in the UK.

Yes, the dna I'm talking about is that collected from 5A - blood on the floor tiles, skirting boards, walls etc. I'd have thought it would be worth fresh, sophisticated testing with a view to seeing if anything CB turns up.
 
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Yes, the dna I'm talking about is that collected from 5A - blood on the floor tiles, skirting boards, walls etc. I'd have thought it would be worth fresh, sophisticated testing with a view to seeing if anything CB turns up.
If I understand the system correctly, it involves a new analysis of the results and does not require re-testing of the original samples, though sample re-anaysis using current techniques might also unlock hitherto unknown information.
 
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If I understand the system correctly, it involves a new analysis of the results and does not require re-testing of the original samples, though sample re-anaysis using current techniques might also unlock hitherto unknown information.

Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear, that's my understanding too from what I've read. Analysis of the data files held by both OG and the PJ.
 
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Yes, the dna I'm talking about is that collected from 5A - blood on the floor tiles, skirting boards, walls etc. I'd have thought it would be worth fresh, sophisticated testing with a view to seeing if anything CB turns up.

If I understand the system correctly, it involves a new analysis of the results and does not require re-testing of the original samples, though sample re-anaysis using current techniques might also unlock hitherto unknown information.
Well HCW consistently says no forensics, why not request a new analysis.
 
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Well HCW consistently says no forensics, why not request a new analysis.

I guess it's possible that new analysis may have been done using the new technology but that it may not have provided the BKA with anything useful as regards CB.

But I'd genuinely be surprised if an open offer to re-analyse the MM dna data files had been turned down by the BKA. I can't think of any reason why they would refuse it since they've always been so open to external assistance, knowing that it was always a long shot and even if it didn't throw up anything useful.

They would surely have access to the dna data files, wouldn't they?
 
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Because they are irrelevant. Simple as that. If these were samples collected by the PJ on the 3rd of May, (which I doubt they still exist) then we could possibly be having a legitimate discussion about it and urge and ask why these are not analysed. Jmo
 
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Wiretapping - if indeed that’s what it was, is something the defence attacked in the previous trial. I don’t think they’d be after it unless it involved CB blabbing something incriminating.

If so, I wouldn’t be surprised if the defence put a lot of weight behind having this inadmissible, but either way if it’s incriminating I’m sure the public will find out.
It appears there was no such thing. The woman from the BKA supposedly said that she was having a delusional disorder when she made that claim.
 
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Because they are irrelevant. Simple as that. If these were samples collected by the PJ on the 3rd of May, (which I doubt they still exist) then we could possibly be having a legitimate discussion about it and urge and ask why these are not analysed. Jmo
Having read up on it, the samples don't need to exist. The analysis is carried out on the raw data from the original tests.
 
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Having read up on it, the samples don't need to exist. The analysis is carried out on the raw data from the original tests.
Do these raw data exist somewhere from the PJ original/ initial investigation? I seem to remember hairs, and other such ?
 
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Do these raw data exist somewhere from the PJ original/ initial investigation? I seem to remember hairs, and other such ?
I'm not certain what they are, but all the DNA analysis was done by UK forensic under Dr Lowe.
Reports were sent to Portugal and appear in the PJ files.
I expect OG got a copy when they set up as it would rather remiss if they didn't.
Whether the BKA got a copy is anyone's guess.
 
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I'm not certain what they are, but all the DNA analysis was done by UK forensic under Dr Lowe.
Reports were sent to Portugal and appear in the PJ files.
I expect OG got a copy when they set up as it would rather remiss if they didn't.
Whether the BKA got a copy is anyone's guess.
But if the testing was incomplete and the BKA have no forensics link, why not have the results analysed by Perlin.
 
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But if the testing was incomplete and the BKA have no forensics link, why not have the results analysed by Perlin.
Not sure it was incomplete. Lowe interpreted results to the best of his ability at the time, but apparently science has moved on since then.
I wonder if the new techology employs AI ?
 
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Not sure it was incomplete. Lowe interpreted results to the best of his ability at the time, but apparently science has moved on since then.
I wonder if the new techology employs AI ?
Technology has moved on, the Germans need help you would think that OG at least would be willing to try something else.
 
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Not sure it was incomplete. Lowe interpreted results to the best of his ability at the time, but apparently science has moved on since then.
I wonder if the new techology employs AI ?

Why would CB have been in the back of or in the boot of the McCanns rental car?
 
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