Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

[JB1510]

Well, I think it must have been also mentioned at the trial?

It most certainly was

 

[frank-cole]

This is what investigative reporters do I guess! They are given snippets from the police, or more specifically from their sources.

Similarly to how we form our opinions on WS. If one curtails one’s opinion by trying to keep it stuck to what is already public record, it wouldn’t make for much of a sleuthing platform!

 

[C.greek]

I doubt with the searches and publicity at the time MM would be left wandering around.A month on, two actually for he say July ,the parents were still there in Luz and no doubt the press.

Agreed. And the BKA have said MM was dead soon after.

 

[frank-cole]

I doubt with the searches and publicity at the time MM would be left wandering around.A month on, two actually for he say July ,the parents were still there in Luz and no doubt the press.

Agree. If there were Ariel photographs from a time within 12 hours then I don’t think we’d all be having this conversation now.

 

[frank-cole]

I though all the Box Factory stuff was supposed to be in police custody . How do journalists come to have transcripts of his journal?

I think photographs of CB at the dam & pictures from inside the factory indicate that what the sun has isn’t hearsay.

 

[Monic]

I think photographs of CB at the dam & pictures from inside the factory indicate that what the sun has isn’t hearsay.

No, but it is also not evidence, it is not forbidden to fantasize and write. And there are no pictures of him and Madeleine in which they are clearly visible.

 

[frank-cole]

No, but it is also not evidence, it is not forbidden to fantasize and write. And there are no pictures of him and Madeleine in which they are clearly visible.

Incorrect. It’s circumstantial evidence. It’s about looking at the totality & taking it into wider context.

 

[C.greek]

No, but it is also not evidence, it is not forbidden to fantasize and write. And there are no pictures of him and Madeleine in which they are clearly visible.

Well, if my partner/son/brother/father/whomever i knew was fantasising about the things CB was I would definitely have reported him...these are no innocent fantasies when they entail rape, murder, and paedophilia.

 

[C.greek]

Is this the child.From the article.

There, he knew Nicole Fehlinger, a foster carer who looked after vulnerable German children.

On Tuesday, her father Dieter said: "If I had known then what I know about Christian now I would have killed him.

"When I first met him I was certainly suspicious of him.

"My daughter was interviewed by German police between nine months and a year ago in connection with Christian.

"I don't think she will be making any further comment."
He added that Nicole also had a young blonde daughter living there at the time Bruckner was in the area.

I am wondering how old was Nicole's daughter?

 

[Lilly b]

Well, if my partner/son/brother/father/whomever i knew was fantasising about the things CB was I would definitely have reported him...these are no innocent fantasies when they entail rape, murder, and paedophilia.

It's also why write them down? Did he sell them? Is there a market for that ?

 

[frank-cole]

Well, if my partner/son/brother/father/whomever i knew was fantasising about the things CB was I would definitely have reported him...these are no innocent fantasies when they entail rape, murder, and paedophilia.

Agree, no innocent explanations - impossible to minimise significance

I could give examples from other cases to show why such things are strong circumstantial evidence. But as soon as it’s posted - tap - send.

 

[tedtink]

I am wondering how old was Nicole's daughter?

Do you remember the daughters birthday cake photo? Many threads back, CB, NF & the child.
I don't have time to look atm, maybe someone else can do the honours.

 

[johnlair]

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No it was used as evidence for his phycological evaluation and read out in court... You must have missed that bit.

 

[johnlair]

Well, I think it must have been also mentioned at the trial?

The point was from my comment Bobby was responding to was ...he writes about that sort of stuff and he has a boot full of chemicals....
Could be innocent... Could be for industrial cleaning ...painting... Bruekner made meth lab... Who knows.
On the other hand if these were knock out chems like Ether ... Chloroform...GHB... 1.4 BDO things like this you would have to wonder what is he using them for and if they were simply discarded without testing I think thats tragic.

 

[johnlair]

I am wondering how old was Nicole's daughter?

We know one of the teenage orphans ran away and he went an got her when she came back she was pregnant

 

[UK Girl]

Yes that is most probably why they were checking every 30 mins and why I think with the new evidence from the documentary and his car that he used some kind of chemicals to drug her. I don't think it was any coincidence he kept such chemicals in his car nor that he close and made a phone call lasting 30 min

It is only a friend who suggested he MAY have used some sort of chemical which actually isnt likely as it would have been smelt in the apartment .

 

[onemoremiletogo]

It is only a friend who suggested he MAY have used some sort of chemical which actually isnt likely as it would have been smelt in the apartment .

His "friend" and I think he, in his disturbing stories, has also described the use of ether to render his victims unconscious. Maybe he really thought about doing it in 5A. Or not. It's worth what it's worth, but it's something from his imaginary and desire.

The open window, in addition to its other purposes, could have helped to disperse the smell. But, yes, would it be enough to be unnoticed in 5A when the parents and others arrived? And how could CB not leave any traces of the use and application of an organic solvent? On the other hand, wouldn't he use it risking that she might wake up and cry? It would be too cold-blooded.

But, in fact, he would have said "she didn't even scream".

 

[johnlair]

His "friend" and I think he, in his disturbing stories, has also described the use of ether to render his victims unconscious. Maybe he really thought about doing it in 5A. Or not. It's worth what it's worth, but it's something from his imaginary and desire.

The open window, in addition to its other purposes, could have helped to disperse the smell. But, yes, would it be enough to be unnoticed in 5A when the parents and others arrived? And how could CB not leave any traces of the use and application of an organic solvent? On the other hand, wouldn't he use it risking that she might wake up and cry? It would be too cold-blooded.

But, in fact, he would have said "she didn't even scream".

Yeah I doubt he used it on MM he would have had no need just leads her out to see her family its simple but he was most definitely planning it in his journals for another time....his illness escalated because he kept getting away with it apart from when he was In Germany

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Yeah I doubt he used it on MM he would have had no need just leads her out to see her family its simple but he was most definitely planning it in his journals for another time....his illness escalated because he kept getting away with it apart from when he was In Germany

Yes, but he said that later.

But before, would he risk walking out the door, along the street, carrying her in his arms while she was awake or could wake up and scream at any second? He may even have had that confidence...

 

[UK Girl]

His "friend" and I think he, in his disturbing stories, has also described the use of ether to render his victims unconscious. Maybe he really thought about doing it in 5A. Or not. It's worth what it's worth, but it's something from his imaginary and desire.

The open window, in addition to its other purposes, could have helped to disperse the smell. But, yes, would it be enough to be unnoticed in 5A when the parents and others arrived? And how could CB not leave any traces of the use and application of an organic solvent? On the other hand, wouldn't he use it risking that she might wake up and cry? It would be too cold-blooded.

But, in fact, he would have said "she didn't even scream".

The "She didn't scream doesnt mean a great deal to me "tbh