Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

[Hexe]

Perhaps they wanted to tie CB to this place- farmhouse mentioned in one of his emails. He was also carrying a gun - perhaps it was one of those two they found.

Let's assume for the moment these guns are CB's. How does it move Maddie's case forward?

 

[Davieson]

It’s minimising. Those guns are not muskets collected by an enthusiast.

It has no value in the case of MM, but demonstrates how media twist information - black market guns my ***

 

[frank-cole]

It has no value in the case of MM, but demonstrates how media twist information - black market guns my ***

We don’t know that.

 

[frank-cole]

Let's assume for the moment these guns are CB's. How does it move Maddie's case forward?

Could be anything.

 

[Hexe]

Could be anything.

That does not explain my question. How these guns move forward Maddie's case?

 

[frank-cole]

That does not explain my question. How these guns move forward Maddie's case?

Numerous possibilities.

How would we know?

 

[Hexe]

Numerous possibilities.

Can you expand a bit on them?

 

[Mex]

That does not explain my question. How these guns move forward Maddie's case?

Without knowing the whole picture it is impossible to quantify the value of 'finds' or where they fit in the scheme of things.

A bit like interviewing suspects or witnesses for elimination or comparison purposes; they don't know until a proper assessment has been made and evaluated.
My opinion

 

[Hexe]

So yeah. A big nothingburger.

 

[Mex]

So yeah. A big nothingburger.

Possibly, but if investigators consider it is a course of action worth taking it can only add to the sum total of their knowledge.
Frustrating that they don't share, but that is the way of things when an investigation is in progress so even if they wanted to they couldn't.

Doesn't stop us speculating, though.
My opinion

 

[tedtink]

Possibly, but if investigators consider it is a course of action worth taking it can only add to the sum total of their knowledge.
Frustrating that they don't share, but that is the way of things when an investigation is in progress so even if they wanted to they couldn't.

Doesn't stop us speculating, though.
My opinion

Agree. The searches seemed targeted, so if the items found have helped to present a clear and compelling image in the chain of circumstantial evidence that's a good thing.
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[C.greek]

Agree. The searches seemed targeted, so if the items found have helped to present a clear and compelling image in the chain of circumstantial evidence that's a good thing.
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Exactly! None of these small pieces of potential evidence should be taken out of context. Seems we can't see the forest for the trees
We can only speculate here - and what good does it do if we constantly dismiss every small piece?
For example, CB wrote in his emails he fantasised about abducting a mother and child and taking then to a farmhouse. CB also could have told that witness we first heard of in the recent trial that he took a child he abducted in one of those farmhouses. Then we have the selfie of CB in front of his van doing the sign of victory in the dark. Perhaps these 3 things could have led the investigators look for any evidence that CB was in one of these farmhouses. Now, if these guns belong to CB one could say they can tie CB to one of these farmhouses, hence possible place he took MM. or, another line of thought: picture of MM with a gun in CB's possession. Confession he threw gun in a well or buried it in an abandoned farmhouses he frequented. There are many possibilities. And I think this is the only way we should be thinking since we are given minimal info!

 

[tedtink]

Let's assume for the moment these guns are CB's. How does it move Maddie's case forward?

BBM

Perhaps BKA is establishing to prove they are his. Especially if he could have denied owning guns or ammunition.

jmo

 

[frank-cole]

So yeah. A big nothingburger.

Why do you think guns might be significant in a murder case?

 

[frank-cole]

BBM

Perhaps BKA is establishing to prove they are his. Especially if he could have denied owning guns or ammunition.

jmo

IMO if relevant - most likely a circumstantial link or a corroboration of the credibility of a witness & a clue to whether they’re in the right area

I think this location will be subject of a another 3 day search

 

[Hexe]

Why do you think guns might be significant in a murder case?

I don't. The press and some commrntets tout is as a big find.

 

[Hexe]

For example, CB wrote in his emails he fantasised about abducting a mother and child and taking then to a farmhouse. CB also could have told that witness we first heard of in the recent trial

The verdict in that trial puts the credibility of that witness under a big question mark, at least IMO.

 

[tedtink]

The verdict in that trial puts the credibility of that witness under a big question mark, at least IMO.

You think BKA has only one witness in the MM case?

 

[Hexe]

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s senseless in a case like this, looking at the bigger picture and trying to ascertain how it could fit in promote an open minded view.

I could agree with that, but there were already multiple searches, that brought exactly nothing. BK is preparing to leave jail, due of the incompetence of the very same people who right now investigate Maddie's case:

German court acquits McCann suspect of unrelated sexual offense charges

“The evidence we had was not enough to convict the defendant,” presiding judge Uta Engemann said, according to dpa, adding that “we were dealing with unreliable witnesses, some of whom deliberately lied to the court.”

That's an egregiously bungled case if I ever saw i. So yeah, I have my doubts about if these people know what they do, I have lots of doubts.

Maybe it is time to admit, that the German prosecutors do not have any groundbreaking evidence against CB and that they bungled this case as horribly as they bungled the case of sex assaults. They have been investigating CB for five years and they are not even an inch closer to arresting him, let alone bringing him to the court. And the fact that the tabloids blow grossly out of proportion every story and every fruitless search, to boist up their sales, does not change that.

CB is not a criminal mastermind with army of undercover helpers, he is a petty, impulsive criminal caught because of his own incompetence. If BKA had anything substantial on him, he would be already on trial. All they have are tales of other petty criminals, trying to gain something for themselves.

 

[tedtink]

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I could agree with that, but there were already multiple searches, that brought exactly nothing. BK is preparing to leave jail, due of the incompetence of the very same people who right now investigate Maddie's case:

German court acquits McCann suspect of unrelated sexual offense charges



That's an egregiously bungled case if I ever saw i. So yeah, I have my doubts about if these people know what they do, I have lots of doubts.

Maybe it is time to admit, that the German prosecutors do not have any groundbreaking evidence against CB and that they bungled this case as horribly as they bungled the case of sex assaults. They have been investigating CB for five years and they are not even an inch closer to arresting him, let alone bringing him to the court. And the fact that the tabloids blow grossly out of proportion every story and every fruitless search, to boist up their sales, does not change that.

CB is not a criminal mastermind with army of undercover helpers, he is a petty, impulsive criminal caught because of his own incompetence. If BKA had anything substantial on him, he would be already on trial. All they have are tales of other petty criminals, trying to gain something for themselves.

Who is BK?