Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #42

[C.greek]

These are seperate issues. Post conviction supervision for serious sex offenders is normal.

The trial judge didn’t think the psychiatrists profile of CB was sufficient for a conviction. Given he never actually assessed him, that probably fair.

Not really! Electronic tagging is not the norm!! This is VERY significant and well done to the prosecution for protecting the public from such a vile person at the least this way!

 

[C.greek]

The state have had control for the last 7 yrs, he's likely on the way to be institutionalised.

I hope you mean institutionalised as in soon to go back to prison? otherwise, there is no way anyone with his profile could become institutionalised after just 7 years in prison. Jmo

 

[C.greek]

Since they took him on as a client he has been found not guilty on five charges, not charged in the MM case, and been freed from prison - all despite the best efforts of well-resourced prosecutors.

FF and team are probably okay with this exposure.

You are agreeing then with Frank. And I also agree, they are absolutely fine with the exposure, they are actually after it to raise their profile, fair enough

 

[RichardKimble]

I hope you mean institutionalised as in soon to go back to prison? otherwise, there is no way anyone with his profile could become institutionalised after just 7 years in prison. Jmo

Day in day out same routine?

 

[RichardKimble]

Madeleine McCann chief suspect walks free from prison

Brueckner will walk out of Sehnde prison near Hannover after completing six years of a seven-year sentence for raping a 72-year-American woman in 2005

www.dailymail.co.uk

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner freed from German prison

Christian Brückner has never been charged with any crime in relation to the McCann case.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Davieson]

Has a minimum timescale for this supervision been stated ?

 

[frank-cole]

You are agreeing then with Frank. And I also agree, they are absolutely fine with the exposure, they are actually after it to raise their profile, fair enough

Yes. Lawyers like these don’t get involved in high profile cases because they want to be rescuers or saviours. They’re doing it for their own gain, which is how the world works.

A MM trial is what they’d all have set their sights on because that’s some serious exposure. I don’t think any of them are naive enough to actually think he’s innocent

My opinion

 

[C.greek]

Yes. Lawyers like these don’t get involved in high profile cases because they want to be rescuers or saviours. They’re doing it for their own gain, which is how the world works.

A MM trial is what they’d all have set their sights on because that’s some serious exposure. I don’t think any of them are naive enough to actually think he’s innocent

My opinion

I am wondering, if a suspect confides to their lawyer they did the crime, isn't the lawyer obligated to testify? How does it really work??

 

[C.greek]

Has a minimum timescale for this supervision been stated ?

This we don't know.

 

[frank-cole]

I am wondering, if a suspect confides to their lawyer they did the crime, isn't the lawyer obligated to testify? How does it really work??

I’m not sure either. The system seems to be unbalanced to the favour of the accused so I am assuming that if FF has any information that CB has comitted the crime, it’ll be confidential.

I noticed in the trial that the strategy of the defence was to not argue any of the evidence but to attack the admissibility of the evidence, therefore didn’t have to raise counter arguments about it.

I don’t think the best lawyers in the world could have talked CB out of the weight of the box factory evidence. So they managed to turn off the light so that nothing in the room could be used. Good defence but nothing about it screams innocence. Much to the contrary in my opinion.

One of the conspiracy authors (FD) says he was with FF when FF was told (phone call) that the BKA have images of MM found on one of his USB’s. But with any of the gossipy authors, believing them is not a clever strategy.

 

[C.greek]

From the spiegel article linked above, some interesting info

CB's passport was revoked from the municipality and instead they gave him an id card with validity only within Germany. This was already decided at a case conference in July, and Spiegel has seen the document with this decision, which among other things refers to a previous conviction for Child abuse and possession of cp. And concluded he is a risk to commit categorical sexual offences against women of any age after his release from prison and he is also a risk for fleeing.

An interesting thing from this: it would appear the trial for the abuse of his gf's daughter included the possession of cp! Which would in turn explain why they cannot charge him again With possession. Imo. And a reminder he only got 15 months (from the same judge that presided the most recent trial) ...

 

[Hexe]

An interesting thing from this: it would appear the trial for the abuse of his gf's daughter included the possession of cp! Which would in turn explain why they cannot charge him again With possession. Imo.

I wrote it two times already: the pictures he took of his ex gf's child were on the devices taken during the domestic violence investigation way before the factory search. The identification of the girl in the pictures took some years, so he was finally convicted with that in March 2017, after factory searches. That conviction CANNOT possibly be the reason they did not accuse him of possessing images of child abuse for the factory "collection".

 

[roily]

Yes. They’ve said a lot about what they do not have, so there’s quite a bit of information for a process of elimination.

I think they may take a calculated risk & present a bit more of their evidence to the public. Because there are probably one or two reluctant witnesses & perhaps a few who haven’t been paying enough attention. A complete guess & hypothetical, but maybe he deactivated his phone on 4/5. Maybe he repainted his van. Maybe he had 100’s of photos of the McCann family.

Maybe they’ll risk making that public to peak interest in CB & the area at the time.

I'm new here & not sure if I'm up to date with everything that has been discussed but this comment caught my eye. JC of Olive Press did indeed claim about 3 months ago that CB's phone was deactivated the very day after MM disappeared. He said it on Olive Press podcast episode 3 available on YT, about 25 minutes in. He said it was an exclusive but I haven't see it repeated elsewhere. Apologies if this has already been discussed.

 

[tedtink]

I'm new here & not sure if I'm up to date with everything that has been discussed but this comment caught my eye. JC of Olive Press did indeed claim about 3 months ago that CB's phone was deactivated the very day after MM disappeared. He said it on Olive Press podcast episode 3 available on YT, about 25 minutes in. He said it was an exclusive but I haven't see it repeated elsewhere. Apologies if this has already been discussed.

Welcome to WS, there's a lot to catch up with, but do ask if you need any updates on anything and you are right about the phone - here's the link to JC's podcast, just in case you're pressed for it .....

 

[tedtink]

Like I said previously thick and fast, it'll die down eventually, pigs now!

'The girl is dead…pigs eat human flesh': Brueckner's tirade over Maddie on TV

CHRISTIAN Brueckner erupted into fury at the sight of Madeleine McCann on TV before making a bizarre comment about “pigs eating human flesh,” a new documentary has revealed. The shockin…

www.thesun.co.uk

Senior Madeleine McCann detective reveals new evidence

Brueckner will be freed on Wednesday after serving a seven-year sentence for the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2109496/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueck

The 'pigs' is old news tbf.
One only needs to research the Police investigation into the JoC disappearance to understand why.
IMO

 

[roily]

Welcome to WS, there's a lot to catch up with, but do ask if you need any updates on anything and you are right about the phone - here's the link to JC's podcast, just in case you're pressed for it .....

Thank you.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Not really! Electronic tagging is not the norm!! This is VERY significant and well done to the prosecution for protecting the public from such a vile person at the least this way!

Upthread in the German press it was stated “ not unusual for this type of offence”. Same article said there were over a thousand offenders with them in Germany - not hen’s teeth.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

You are agreeing then with Frank. And I also agree, they are absolutely fine with the exposure, they are actually after it to raise their profile, fair enough

Where I disagree is that they haven’t done a good job. It would have been interesting to see how they handled the DM trial.

 

[Anxala]

Has a minimum timescale for this supervision been stated ?

Well it can't be really as it will be CB's behaviour post-release that will determines the timescale. If he's cooperative and doesn't reoffend, the monitoring process (as per the remit of the body - GÜL - responsible for the monitoring) will presumably adjust accordingly over time.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I am wondering, if a suspect confides to their lawyer they did the crime, isn't the lawyer obligated to testify? How does it really work??

No. Even if CB confessed to FF to murdering MM, he has no obligation to tell anyone under lawyer/client confidentiality laws. This is the way it should be, you couldn’t have defendants worrying about what they say for fear that their lawyer would grass on them.

My opinion is that FF is satisfied the CB is innocent of the MM crime but we’ll never know.