Magnotta March Prelim Hearing & Trial Day 1 - Sep 29, 2014 - Thread #1

[Kamille]

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 3m3 minutes ago
#Magnotta spent much of the day away from the building, leaving just after 11 am, returning 4:35 pm on May 26.

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 3m3 minutes ago
Last shot is at 17:14, leaving the building, carrying a piece of luggage, takes a taxi #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
4:46 pm. #Magnotta seen returning. 4:48 pm. Throws away something in basement again. 5:14 pm. #Magnotta leaves building for good in taxi.

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 3m3 minutes ago
after several entries and exits, #Magnotta leaves for the last time at 5:14 p.m. wearing wig, sunglasses and carrying hand luggage

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
#Magnotta leaves building at 5:14 p.m. and walks between people sitting on front steps

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 3m3 minutes ago
These were the last images of #Magnotta at 5720 Decarie

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

ANOTHER SET OF TWEETS TO HELP THOSE WHO C&P THE TWEETS:

https://twitter.com/MontgomerySue

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

REQUEST FROM ME, HOPE IT'S OK WITH YOU ALL:

PLEASE use the 'GRAPHIC' section for any/all graphic photos AND kindly refrain from going into graphic details about ANIMAL ABUSE/KILLINGS. Maybe the animal stuff could also go into the graphic section?

Many thanks. Hope this is OK...........

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 3m3 minutes ago
Hamlin says they were unable to find out when #Magnotta and Lin Jun first met, despite cell and email records

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
In march 2013, police realized someone else went into apartment between 18 and 19 May #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 3m3 minutes ago
On May 18 2012, another man, still unknown, is seen entering building with #Magnotta Police never managed to track him down

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
May 19, 2012, 4 am. #Magnotta throwing something away in basement. 11 am. #Magnotta leaves, returns to building.

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 1m1 minute ago
#Magnotta jury sees surveillance footage of another man entering Magnotta's apartment a week before the killing, then leaving the next day.

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 3m3 minutes ago
#Magnotta, wearing wig, accompanies man out of his building the next day, holding his arm as if he needs to be steadied. #luckyman

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta witness now moving to evidence seized on his arrest -killer had Lin's baseball cap that we saw him wearing when entering his bldg

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
Hamlin is being question by Crown Louis Bouthillier. She says they found the cap Lin Jun wore during arrest of #Magnotta in Berlin

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta jury has heard that the infamous death video begins with a minute of footage of another man bound and naked on his bed.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Sgt det donning black gloves to present cap seized. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
The wig was also found among #Magnotta's belongings in Berlin

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Sgt det gets out wig seized in Berlin. Holds up dark messy wig. Submitted into evidence. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 51s51 seconds ago
Hamlin said they found bills from Canada Post and Zellers in garbage outside #Magnotta apartment

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 51s51 seconds ago
Bills were dated April 25. At Zellers sheets were bought #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 2m2 minutes ago
Why did #Magnotta buy beddings at Zellers on May 25th? We're shown receipt

François Messier ‏@MessierSRC · 14m14 minutes ago
Casquette et perruque déposées en preuve. Tout comme facture de Postes Canada du 25 avril 2012, et une de Zellers du 25 mai. #Magnotta



There seems to be some confusion about the receipt dates. The French tweeters seem to indicate that the Zellers receipt was on May 25 and the Canada Post one was April 25th? That should be sorted out in the news reports later?

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
Photos taken in Paris hotel room next exhibit. Paris police took the pix and given to Mtl police when they got there. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 3m3 minutes ago
Jun Lin's yellow t-shirt, that #Magnotta was seen wearing, also introduced as evidence. It was seized in Europe

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta jury now being shown photos of Paris hotel room taken by local police. That was his first destination after fleeing Mtrl

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
Franck Rupert put #Magnotta up in his Berlin apartment

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 42s43 seconds ago
Jury is looking at a list of things that were seized by police at Rupert's apartment #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 28s29 seconds ago
Jury examining photos but we can't see them. #Magnotta

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

FWIW, this whole 'escaping to Paris' thing seems very well-planned out. How on earth they can go for a NCR verdict is beyond me.

Would like to know who the "stranger" was..........

:thinking:

 

[Kamille]

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 27s28 seconds ago
Police detective trying to find the yellow T-shirt and a card from Toronto that needs to be filed in evidence #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
Filing a calling card in the name of Kirk Tromel (?) #Magnotta

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 2m2 minutes ago
Cross-exam of #Magnotta homicide detective to begin after morning break

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 2m2 minutes ago
We're on a 20-minute break now. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

So the calling card that was filed seems to also have something to do with a map of the University of Toronto?

 

[Kamille]

FWIW, this whole 'escaping to Paris' thing seems very well-planned out. How on earth they can go for a NCR verdict is beyond me.

Would like to know who the "stranger" was..........

:thinking:

I can't believe the other guy never came forward. Was he also Asian? Another exchange student or tourist perhaps who either returned to his country before this became news here or who's family also does not know that he's gay and he was too ashamed to come forward?

I also can't believe that they cannot figure out how LM met LJ. Considering he's not disputing anything, I wonder if he'll get on the stand and they'll be able to ask him?

MOO

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 15m15 minutes ago
Judge back, jury coming. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 15m15 minutes ago
Jury in. Defence cross examination begins of Mtl police Sgt Det Claudette Hamlin. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 14m14 minutes ago
Crown says yellow Tshirt #JunLin was wearing and #Magnotta seen wearing later still with police and will be filed next week into evidence.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 13m13 minutes ago
Defence asks if blood stains found in bathroom, Sgt Det says very little left, had to look hard to see. Was all cleaned up. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 12m12 minutes ago
At first glance apt cleaned? Yes, she says. But smelled of old blood. #Magnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 12m12 minutes ago
#Magnotta's apartment looked rather clean when police first entered, but a closer look revealed many bloodstains throughout, Hamlin says.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 11m11 minutes ago
Suitcase: receipts found when it was bought? Not to her knowledge, she says. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 11m11 minutes ago
Don't know where #Magnotta got the suitcase, she says.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 10m10 minutes ago
Defence lawyer dons gloves to take out wig filed into evidence. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 9m9 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Luc Leclair now handling the wig seized in Berlin. Hamlin says it's similar to one seen in surveillance video #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 9m9 minutes ago
Defence lawyer Luc Leclair looks over wig. Looks like the one #Magnotta wore the day he left? Yes, witness says. He shows wig to jury.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 9m9 minutes ago
The wig cost $1700. #Magnotta

Michele Mandel ‏@MandelSun · 8m8 minutes ago
#getyourmoneyback Jury hears ratty wig bought by #Magnotta for $1700

 

[Kamille]

Robin Edgar ‏@RobinEdgar · 17s18 seconds ago
Defence lawyer Luc Leclair asks Hamlin about efforts the @SPVM made to try to determine how Luka #Magnotta first met his victim Jun Lin.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 19s20 seconds ago
On police's efforts to determine how #Magnotta & #JunLin met: over 7400 photos police went through. Now onto Skype.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 46s46 seconds ago
Police went through over 7,000 photos to try to figure out how #Magnotta and Lin Jun met

Robin Edgar ‏@RobinEdgar · 47s47 seconds ago
Detective Hamlin says she viewed over 7000 photos on Luka #Magnotta's laptop computer. Leclair now asks Hamlin about Skype records.


suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 16s 16 seconds ago
Technical difficulties at #Magnotta. Jury heading out

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

There was a question earlier about the name Kirk Trammel. That's the name LRM used on a fake passport when going to Paris.

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 5m5 minutes ago
Jury is back in. Problem fixed. We now see Skype contact info on screen. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 5m5 minutes ago
Leclair apologizing to the jury because of tech difficulties #magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
Showing Skype name, display name, birthday, city, phone number headings of account. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 4m4 minutes ago
Leclair showing Skype contacts from Lin Jun #Magnotta (or at least he's trying to)

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
There are 63 contacts in Skype. Leclair reading some of them #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Shows 63 entries, Fabrice Gauthier is number 61. Jordan S. is 56, among others. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Asking about #JunLin's Skype account name, Sgt Det has no idea. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
all this was found by Montreal Police on Lin Jun's laptop #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 47s47 seconds ago
Defence wants Skype stuff entered into evidence. But jury won't be able to see it, judge notes. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Very confused by the Skype stuff. Is Leclair trying to beat around the bush by saying that LM had a fake name on Skype and it was on LJ's contact list? And LE missed it? :waitasec:

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Maybe wait until the right witness files the right computer format for the items, judge says. Ok, they'll figure it out later. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 35s36 seconds ago
moving on to Skype chat messages. Judge verifying with Hamlin how exactly the messages were retrieved by police #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 31s32 seconds ago
Onto Skype chat messages: judge notes info extracted by police from #JunLin's electronic devices. #Magnotta

Stephane Giroux ‏@SGirouxCTV · 22s22 seconds ago
Defence lawyer going through Jun Lin's Skype contacts #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 36s36 seconds ago
Defence reads out some greetings from a Emile Lacroix and Fabrice Gauthier, dated May 18 and 19. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 48s48 seconds ago
Leclair says no, I'm just going through the first few. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

So he's already mentioned Emile Lacroix as another possible hook up for LJ. Is he suggesting that Fabrice Gauthier is LM? Sounds like a name he'd make up.

MOO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Very confused by the Skype stuff. Is Leclair trying to beat around the bush by saying that LM had a fake name on Skype and it was on LJ's contact list? And LE missed it? :waitasec:

Just a guess, but I suspect Leclair is trying to show that 'everyone in the world' uses fake ID on computer. So, LRM isn't that bad. Also, I suspect Lecair is trying to victimise the victim all over again.

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
One from Emile Lacroix responding to a 'how are you' from what appears to be #JunLin's account: "Fine and horny, yourself?" #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 51s51 seconds ago
Leclair showing witness big white placards displaying the Skye chat messages. Entered into evidence. #Magnotta

Robin Edgar ‏@RobinEdgar · 45s45 seconds ago
Large screen video showing the #Magnotta trial in the overflow room for public & #journalists is somewhat #OutOfFocus right now... #metaphor

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 26s27 seconds ago
Defence reads out from a list of Chrome downloads list of what sounds like some very X-rated films. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Once again Leclair is focusing on LJ's conversations with other men on Skype (specifically Emile Lacroix) and the on his computer. Again...what has this got to do with his client's mindset the day he murdered LJ?

Maybe Leclair knows that LJ met LM through this Emile person?