Majority of Boulder Population Pagans?

[DeeDee249]

I wonder if Boulder has learned anything from this case...or is the "warm & fuzzy" brand of crimesolving still being practiced? Oh, yeah--well, we know they did it, BUT it's come down from "high places" to treat them as victims, not suspects, so we'll just have to ignore proper investigative procedures and do whatever their lawyers say.

 

[Ames]

I wonder if Boulder has learned anything from this case...or is the "warm & fuzzy" brand of crimesolving still being practiced? Oh, yeah--well, we know they did it, BUT it's come down from "high places" to treat them as victims, not suspects, so we'll just have to ignore proper investigative procedures and do whatever their lawyers say.

Have you ever seen those Wal-Green commericals....where it shows a warm and fuzzy community, the kids all behave, the sun always shines, the kids ride a roller coaster to school....etc. And the announcer says that until there is a perfect world....we still have Wal-Greens...or something like that. Reminds me of Boulder, CO. Like no place we have ever seen, before. Fairytale land....

 

[Eagle1]

--lol--yep--and Eagle1 should also check out the witches,ghosts and goblins-- and in the wintertime,the snow fairies--Pretty sure they are involved in this somehow

No, Tea and Hamilton, the pagans are the only ones known to have ceremonies or rituals and magical harps, (google if you don't believe me) give gifts to ungrateful trees, etc. (At another forum McReynolds is quoted telling children he once gave a gift to a little tree which was ungrateful, was "bad", and the poster remarked that it seemed he wanted to be thought of as a God-like person, make sure they appreciated him. As always in the forums, it was just a subjective opinion.

I already have a general idea what the other religions are like, nothing really unusual, so will not have any reason to be checking them. Not saying it couldn't be a fallen Christian playing God who did the murder, of course. It could have been several people, from various religions and that might have nothing to do with it. The pagans' tendency to rituals possibly could have been taken advantage of by a false-Christian manipulater of people like Charles Manson, imo.

 

[Solace]

If Scott Peterson had committed this crime in Boulder, he'd probably be walking around free, too.

Well I would hope so. We want to be fair.

 

[Eagle1]

I have to admit....that harp thing with dead kid's name is really, REALLY weird. BUT...who did McReynolds show this harp to? And whom did he tell that he was saving a space for JB? Do we know for sure that this harp really existed....or rather, the NAMES on the harp really existed?? Or is this just hearsay. Something that the RST started???

Since Daniel Glick told this to Jeff Shapiro, and the R's never that we know of ever said anything about it, nor did their "friends", I doubt it's hearsay. And before Janet McReynolds also dies, I do wish someone would question her about all the kids on the harp, how they died.

Probably not all in the same way, and she'd probably say he visited hospital wards or something like that, but I wish we'd get it over with, whether or not we get any farther with the facts of the JonBenet case.

 

[Eagle1]

Have you ever seen those Wal-Green commericals....where it shows a warm and fuzzy community, the kids all behave, the sun always shines, the kids ride a roller coaster to school....etc. And the announcer says that until there is a perfect world....we still have Wal-Greens...or something like that. Reminds me of Boulder, CO. Like no place we have ever seen, before. Fairytale land....

That seems to be the big picture about Boulder.

 

[JMO8778]

Since Daniel Glick told this to Jeff Shapiro, and the R's never that we know of ever said anything about it, nor did their "friends", I doubt it's hearsay. And before Janet McReynolds also dies, I do wish someone would question her about all the kids on the harp, how they died.

Probably not all in the same way, and she'd probably say he visited hospital wards or something like that, but I wish we'd get it over with, whether or not we get any farther with the facts of the JonBenet case.

I've always thought it was tabloid fodder,but even if not,just an odd coincidence.I don't think the poor man had anything to do w. it,and I recall reading Ms McReynolds saying,when he died,that he was so upset that anyone would ever think that he had anything to do w. it.I thought the way the R's fingered him when he was so obviously sick and had surgery was just horrible.what nerve.

 

[Eagle1]

I've always thought it was tabloid fodder,but even if not,just an odd coincidence.I don't think the poor man had anything to do w. it,and I recall reading Ms McReynolds saying,when he died,that he was so upset that anyone would ever think that he had anything to do w. it.I thought the way the R's fingered him when he was so obviously sick and had surgery was just horrible.what nerve.

Thanks for the reply, JMO, but you're not listening? It wasn't a tabloid, nor the R's, but a columnist for, I think, Newsweek, Daniel Glick, so he should be pretty reliable. I found his name during a search and can't remember what search term I used, it was so many days ago.

Nobody here is accusing McReynolds of the murder, tho' he may well have been in some way involved, and whatever he said about being upset does not prove anything at all. Anybody would say that. It's no more reliable than the tabs. Let's don't be suckers about him just because he was old and had had some heart surgery. The harp business is WEIRD, no matter how you slice things. He and his wife must have at least KNOWN something, tho' I'm sure she'd deny it too, just a formality.

If we're going to be sleuth wannabe's, don't we have to be totally objective, no emotional involvement with either side? Naturally the RDI"s keep saying the R's were "nervy", "lowdown", and like that, but is that even approaching detached "professional" sleuthing? Just the facts, please, as Jack Web used to say on TV.

Let's focus on those other kids, what did they die of, instead of the old man? Thanks again for your reply, of course.

 

[Solace]

Thanks for the reply, JMO, but you're not listening? It wasn't a tabloid, nor the R's, but a columnist for, I think, Newsweek, Daniel Glick, so he should be pretty reliable. I found his name during a search and can't remember what search term I used, it was so many days ago.

Nobody here is accusing McReynolds of the murder, tho' he may well have been in some way involved, and whatever he said about being upset does not prove anything at all. Anybody would say that. It's no more reliable than the tabs. Let's don't be suckers about him just because he was old and had had some heart surgery. The harp business is WEIRD, no matter how you slice things. He and his wife must have at least KNOWN something, tho' I'm sure she'd deny it too, just a formality.

If we're going to be sleuth wannabe's, don't we have to be totally objective, no emotional involvement with either side? Naturally the RDI"s keep saying the R's were "nervy", "lowdown", and like that, but is that even approaching detached "professional" sleuthing? Just the facts, please, as Jack Web used to say on TV. Yes, we should be totally objective. The man was not involved. There is no trace of him or his fibers or anything else in that house. He was a sloppy man, just to look at, and he could not have pulled it off without some of his beard at the very least being left in the basement.

Let's focus on those other kids, what did they die of, instead of the old man? Thanks again for your reply, of course.

Eagle, an intruder did not do this thing. There is NO EVIDENCE, not one fiber of an intruder. All the fibers on JonBent come from Patsy or John. I don't care if they lived in the house. They said they were not down in the basement that evening or that morning except when John found her and fibers from Patsy's sweater ARE UNDER THE TAPE. That is damning evidence. Patsy herself says that is because she hugged JB's body. BUT THE TAPE WAS NOT ON JB when she hugged her. It is very damning evidence.

 

[JMO8778]

Eagle, an intruder did not do this thing. There is NO EVIDENCE, not one fiber of an intruder. All the fibers on JonBent come from Patsy or John. I don't care if they lived in the house. They said they were not down in the basement that evening or that morning except when John found her and fibers from Patsy's sweater ARE UNDER THE TAPE. That is damning evidence. Patsy herself says that is because she hugged JB's body. BUT THE TAPE WAS NOT ON JB when she hugged her. It is very damning evidence.

I agree.I think it's absurd to think Santa Bill climbed in thru that skinny window,sick as (yes)he was,fed JB pineapple,then waited 1-2 hrs to kill her.And maybe stun gunned her at that.Not only that,but put the boxes back in front of the door,relatched the WC door,and moved the grate back,even tho JB screamed loud enough for a n-bor to hear it.
I used to work on a floor w. post op patients who had bypass surg.,they just aren't strong enough to pull this off.No way.Much less would they bother with something so risky,when being caught would be devestating to their health.They're just trying to recover and stay alive afterwards.Nothing more.And it doesn't help matters when the likes if someone so thoughtless and insensitive like JR comes along and accuses him of murder.I'm surprised it didn't kill him on the spot.
I felt sympathy for him b/c I think he was wrongly accused,and sick at the time it happened.Not just b/c he was sick.JR is insensitive and thoughtless,and IMO,would have allowed anyone innocent to go to prison just to keep himself n Pats out.Even a sickly person.

It's a big world and there will always be coincidences in any crime.It doesn't mean it necessarily has anything to do w/ it.Like the Jeffery McDonald case here in NC,and Helena Stockley saying she and her hippie friends were responsible for murdering his wife and children.Didn't happen.He did it.There will always be things and ppl to check out and clear,and Santa Bill was cleared..he didn't do it.

 

[Solace]

I agree.I think it's absurd to think Santa Bill climbed in thru that skinny window,sick as (yes)he was,fed JB pineapple,then waited 1-2 hrs to kill her.And maybe stun gunned her at that.Not only that,but put the boxes back in front of the door,relatched the WC door,and moved the grate back,even tho JB screamed loud enough for a n-bor to hear it.
I used to work on a floor w. post op patients who had bypass surg.,they just aren't strong enough to pull this off.No way.Much less would they bother with something so risky,when being caught would be devestating to their health.They're just trying to recover and stay alive afterwards.Nothing more.And it doesn't help matters when the likes if someone so thoughtless and insensitive like JR comes along and accuses him of murder.I'm surprised it didn't kill him on the spot.
I felt sympathy for him b/c I think he was wrongly accused,and sick at the time it happened.Not just b/c he was sick.JR is insensitive and thoughtless,and IMO,would have allowed anyone innocent to go to prison just to keep himself n Pats out.Even a sickly person.

It's a big world and there will always be coincidences in any crime.It doesn't mean it necessarily has anything to do w/ it.Like the Jeffery McDonald case here in NC,and Helena Stockley saying she and her hippie friends were responsible for murdering his wife and children.Didn't happen.He did it.There will always be things and ppl to check out and clear,and Santa Bill was cleared..he didn't do it.

Amen.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

My opinion on the McReynolds is: all of these different people, BPD, RST, BDA featuring Lou Smit, all investigated the McRs, and other than the bizarre coincidences with the play Janet wrote, cannot connect them to the murder at all.

They've been cleared. They were thoroughly investigated by more than one investigative team. No one can place them in the house on the night of the murder with forensic evidence.

That is not true of John and Patsy Ramsey. They have never been cleared. We know for a fact that they were in that house that night. We know that they have told numerous contradicting stories, and hindered the investigation with ridiculous conditions on LE.

Why such suspicion of the McRs when there are more likely suspects?

 

[mrsjonnob]

My opinion on the McReynolds is: all of these different people, BPD, RST, BDA featuring Lou Smit, all investigated the McRs, and other than the bizarre coincidences with the play Janet wrote, cannot connect them to the murder at all.

They've been cleared. They were thoroughly investigated by more than one investigative team. No one can place them in the house on the night of the murder with forensic evidence.

That is not true of John and Patsy Ramsey. They have never been cleared. We know for a fact that they were in that house that night. We know that they have told numerous contradicting stories, and hindered the investigation with ridiculous conditions on LE.

Why such suspicion of the McRs when there are more likely suspects?

Had the R's ever read janet's play?

 

[Ames]

I've always thought it was tabloid fodder,but even if not,just an odd coincidence.I don't think the poor man had anything to do w. it,and I recall reading Ms McReynolds saying,when he died,that he was so upset that anyone would ever think that he had anything to do w. it.I thought the way the R's fingered him when he was so obviously sick and had surgery was just horrible.what nerve.

I read that too...what Ms. McReynolds said. And I remember crying...when I read it. POOR GUY. He probably died from a broken heart....I wish that somebody would have thrown the Ramsey's under the bus.....and I mean LITERALLY!

 

[Ames]

That seems to be the big picture about Boulder.

Yep, thats what CK (ColaraoKares...she used to post here) said. She lived in Boulder, and knew many of the people associated with the Ramseys.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Had the R's ever read janet's play?

Patsy talks about the play on pages 173-174 of DOI, paperback, but I do not get the impression she or John have read the play.

 

[Ames]

Patsy talks about the play on pages 173-174 of DOI, paperback, but I do not get the impression she or John have read the play.

Yeah, she mentioned everyone and everything that she thought would throw suspicion off of her and John.

 

[JMO8778]

I read that too...what Ms. McReynolds said. And I remember crying...when I read it. POOR GUY. He probably died from a broken heart....I wish that somebody would have thrown the Ramsey's under the bus.....and I mean LITERALLY!

Yes,he probably did, very sad since he obv. loved JB and thought a lot of her.

I don't think anyone would have cried if that'd happened !

 

[coloradokares]

That seems to be the big picture about Boulder.

I live here and we are NOT Majority Pagans and it is irresonsible to say we are!!

 

[snowqueen]

I read that too...what Ms. McReynolds said. And I remember crying...when I read it. POOR GUY. He probably died from a broken heart....I wish that somebody would have thrown the Ramsey's under the bus.....and I mean LITERALLY!

Or maybe he died of a guilty conscious. Really, Ames, throw the Ramseys under the bus - without proof that they had anything to do with the murder of their child?