Malaysia airlines 370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #25

[Nocgirl]

My thoughts exactly. It is unfathomable to think a pilot would do this but I think it's obvious that's what happened. No other scenario makes sense. I have to wonder if the pilot was truly pissed off at his personal life, and Malaysia Airlines to do this. He apparently wanted a long, exhaustive, expensive search for the jet. I would love to know if the pilot was behind the controls the whole time until the jet hit the water. Authorities have said the wing flap that was recently found, was in the deployed position. Indicating the jet likely was not on auto pilot. So weird and sad.

I havent checked in on this thread for a long time, but with the recent announcements about the pilot having used his home simulator to plan/practice a flight into the south Indian Ocean, I thought I would check in. I do indeed believe that it is most probable that the pilot indeed did intentionally fly the plan to its ultimate doom. Why, we may never know. It just seems the most likely scenario. As for why no one tried to call on a cell phone, I think there are two answers, and I believe that they have been discussed before. First, if I remember correctly, shortly after going off course and turning back towards Malaysia, the plane ascended to over 40,000 ft. If this is correct, it seems that perhaps the pilot had already incapacitated the co-pilot (or locked him out ala German Wings event) and then ascended and vented the air out for the purpose of eliminating the passengers while he remained on his oxygen mask. He then returned to lower altitute where he could breath normally. Second, for the most parts, cell phones simply are out of range of cell towers when the plane is at altitude. Cell towers direct and receive signals along the surface of the Earth, not up into the sky. And of course there are no cell towers out in the ocean. So any passengers could have tried to call all they wanted, but those calls are never going to connect.

Its horrifically sad for the families left behind to not have good answers. We are never going to understand "why" this happened. The act of a madman is difficult to accept I know. I think he sent the plane on this course specifically for the purpose of it being difficult, if not impossible, to find. I have wondered if he didnt kill himself after programming the autopilot or if he was alive and alert all the way. I think with the suggestions that the plane likely glided so long after running out of fuel and the possible extension of the flaps, it is most likely that the pilot was indeed alive all the way. But even a controlled water landing in the rough open ocean would have been very violent and most certainly killed him as well. Its difficult to wrap my head around the horror of that entire scenario, but I do believe that is probably what happened. I doubt that, other than small pieces of debris, the plane will ever be found. Not any time soon anyway.

 

[ilovepierre]

Hijackers generally have a motive and a demand. I can't see hijackers flying this jet for hours on end with no communication. My suspicion lies with pilot.

Which is sad
I don't know what possess a pilot to crash a jet full of people into the ocean.
Co-pilot is still suspicious in my books, though.

JMO

 

[PrairieWind]

Which is sad
I don't know what possess a pilot to crash a jet full of people into the ocean.
Co-pilot is still suspicious in my books, though.

JMO

I don't think we could ever understand what drives a person to do something like this. As for the co-pilot, I had few suspicions about him. He certainly had the ability, and he could have been the culprit but I just didn't think so. He was young, with a beautiful girl, seemed full of life and its pleasures. One sad thing is that we will never be able to clear the names of these pilots if they were indeed innocent. I really feel bad for their families.

 

[gregjrichards]

My thoughts exactly. It is unfathomable to think a pilot would do this but I think it's obvious that's what happened. No other scenario makes sense. I have to wonder if the pilot was truly pissed off at his personal life, and Malaysia Airlines to do this. He apparently wanted a long, exhaustive, expensive search for the jet. I would love to know if the pilot was behind the controls the whole time until the jet hit the water. Authorities have said the wing flap that was recently found, was in the deployed position. Indicating the jet likely was not on auto pilot. So weird and sad.

The pilot was also a political activist and politician Anwar Ibrahim had just been imprisoned earlier in the day which is said to have left the pilot profoundly upset. He may have decided to do this to punish the Malaysian government in someway. Possibly this combined with the problems in his personal life exacerbated his already depressed state. But this does not justify or excuse murdering 238 people in addition to taking his own life. I truly believe this was the same as the Germanwings tragedy where a suicidal pilot brought the plane down. Turning off the transponder indicates this was no accident. It is horrifying to think of a pilot behind the controls who is not acting in the best interests of his passengers and who intends to kill them.

 

[ilovepierre]

I don't think we could ever understand what drives a person to do something like this. As for the co-pilot, I had few suspicions about him. He certainly had the ability, and he could have been the culprit but I just didn't think so. He was young, with a beautiful girl, seemed full of life and its pleasures. One sad thing is that we will never be able to clear the names of these pilots if they were indeed innocent. I really feel bad for their families.

I just find it weird that he (the co-pilot) wasn't originally supposed to be on that flight, and that he switched last minute. At least, I think it was the co-pilot...
Maybe him and Shah were in this together....we'll never know.
Unless the black boxes can be found.
But ya, I feel bad for their families as well.

 

[Roselvr]

I'm wondering what the hell happened to the copilot... and what the passengers made of it all. Someone must have realised it was going wrong. Did no one use their phone? It's been so long since I thought about this I don't know if I'm rehashing or not.

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Supposedly one person (copilot) tried to use his phone, the rest probably were already deceased or didn't know the flight was going wrong. I personally think the pilots couldn't radio. I think the plane was disabled

Investigators reveal MH370 co-pilot tried to make a call from his mobile phone after the aircraft 'vanished' but 'was abruptly cut off' as U.S. deny reports the plane landed at their remote military base By Richard Shears for MailOnline and Tara Brady - Published: 04:31 EST, 12 April 2014 | Updated: 09:52 EST, 12 April 2014

The co-pilot of missing flight MH370 made a call from his mobile phone while the aircraft flew low over the west coast of Malaysia, it was revealed today as the U.S. denied reports the plane landed at a military base on the remote island of Diego Garcia.

Investigators have learned that the call was made from Fariq Abdul Hamid's mobile phone as the Boeing 777 flew low near the island of Penang, on the north of Malaysia's west coast.

The New Straits Times reported the aircraft, with 239 people on board, was flying low enough for the nearest telecommunications tower to pick up Fariq's signal.

The call ended abrupty, however it has been learned that contact was definitely established with a telecommunications sub-station in Penang state.

The paper said it had been unable to ascertain who Fariq was trying to call 'as sources chose not to divulge details of the investigation.'

It added: 'The telco's (telecommunications company's) tower established the call that he was trying to make.

'On why the call was cut off, it was likely because the aircraft was fast moving away from the tower and had not come under the coverage of the next one,' the paper said, quoting 'sources'.

 

[mommylicious]

Wonder who he was trying to call...

 

[Roselvr]

Wonder who he was trying to call...

I'm not sure if it was ever made public

 

[mommylicious]

I'm not sure if it was ever made public

Doesn't sound like it. The link you shared mentioned sources not divulging information. Does make me curious though.

 

[Tulessa]

The Mirror is reporting another plane lost, but I don't trust the Mirror.

 

[Tulessa]

Gastaldi
‏@VictorCahat Gastaldi Retweeted Ennahar TV
BREAKING #AH1020 : Algerian news source says that plane HAS LANDED in Algiers. Not crashed.

 

[Roselvr]

Doesn't sound like it. The link you shared mentioned sources not divulging information. Does make me curious though.

What I am really wondering is if someone leaked it on FB, like if you searched FB with Fariq Abdul Hamid

 

[watcher9]

Weekly update - August 10, 2016

Weather will go from bad to worse over the next few days.

The Fugro Discovery will have concluded its involvement in the search for MH370 as of today. Other vessels should take over.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370-pages/updates/operational-update/

 

[watcher9]

Weekly update - Aug 17, 2016

Weather still poor but may be improving by the end of the week.
(I sure hope so!)

https://www.atsb.gov.au/mh370-pages/updates/operational-update/

 

[watcher9]

Is anyone keeping up with the disappearance of the Indian Airways plane with 29 passenger over the Bay of Bengal?
It went off radar almost a month ago on July 22 and now it is being compared to the missing MH370.

The AN32 disappeared over the Bay of Bengal on July 22 in shocking echoes of the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/700800/Families-despair-missing-plane-AN32-India-Air-Force-MH370

 

[Tulessa]

Is anyone keeping up with the disappearance of the Indian Airways plane with 29 passenger over the Bay of Bengal?
It went off radar almost a month ago on July 22 and now it is being compared to the missing MH370.

The AN32 disappeared over the Bay of Bengal on July 22 in shocking echoes of the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/700800/Families-despair-missing-plane-AN32-India-Air-Force-MH370

Do we have a thread?

 

[Roselvr]

Do we have a thread?

I'm surprised we didn't. I was just getting ready to make one when I saw yours lol

Plane vanished THREE WEEKS ago in echo of MH370

 

[watcher9]

Thanks for getting a thread on this started.
I kept looking but couldn't find one.
Maybe we could use a sub-classification under the up to the minute forum to group together the plane and train crashes and ship sinkings to ease our search efforts.

 

[Roselvr]

Thanks for getting a thread on this started.
I kept looking but couldn't find one.
Maybe we could use a sub-classification under the up to the minute forum to group together the plane and train crashes and ship sinkings to ease our search efforts.

I was thinking that too, especially with how often it's happening now

 

[Tulessa]

Thanks for getting a thread on this started.
I kept looking but couldn't find one.
Maybe we could use a sub-classification under the up to the minute forum to group together the plane and train crashes and ship sinkings to ease our search efforts.

Sounds good to me!