Malaysia airlines 370 with 239 people on board, 8 March 2014 #25

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I guess I didn't clarify in my previous post that the two objects photographed at the bottom of the ocean was not linked to MH370 according to link I just posted.

In regards to the objects photographed on the ocean floor, my first thought was they looked like shipping containers that may have fallen off a cargo ship...have they said what the objects turned out to be?

 

[Roselvr]

In regards to the objects photographed on the ocean floor, my first thought was they looked like shipping containers that may have fallen off a cargo ship...have they said what the objects turned out to be?

I agree; they look like shipping boxes unless the plane broke apart. If you look at the photo, there are 5 white spots
They can't look until November. They're marked category 3, possible plane parts

 

[ilovepierre]

Is this the debris that was spotted near Maldives?

 

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Is this the debris that was spotted near Maldives?

No, the sonar images are from the Search area off the coast of Australia

The debris spotted in the Maldives is not from MH370, not even parts from a plane.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/maldives-debris-not-from-mh370-malaysia-says/6699394
MH370: Debris found in Maldives not from missing flight, Malaysia's transport minister says


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ia-Airlines-MH370-t-NOVEMBER-bad-weather.html

Map of Search area and La Reunion island where debris was found


Sonar image taken by Go Phoenix survey team


Sonar Image taken by Fugro Equator survey team

 

[watcher9]

I don't remember seeing this article before that the initial debris drift modeling was in error and that they now believe that Reunion was more consistent with where they believe the plane went down and the debris drift.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...ines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805

 

[watcher9]

No, the sonar images are from the Search area off the coast of Australia

The debris spotted in the Maldives is not from MH370, not even parts from a plane.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/maldives-debris-not-from-mh370-malaysia-says/6699394
MH370: Debris found in Maldives not from missing flight, Malaysia's transport minister says


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ia-Airlines-MH370-t-NOVEMBER-bad-weather.html

Map of Search area and La Reunion island where debris was found
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Sonar image taken by Go Phoenix survey team
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Sonar Image taken by Fugro Equator survey team
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Looking closely at the third image (colored red), it looks like there are other objects which look the same to the SW of the circled items. Also, due East there is an object that looks out of place, almost like a window side of a plane.

 

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I don't remember seeing this article before that the initial debris drift modeling was in error and that they now believe that Reunion was more consistent with where they believe the plane went down and the debris drift.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...ines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805

Never saw this article either
So the search authorities thought that, with the drift debris model they had, that the debris would be washing up on land north of the search area in Sumatra, Indonesia..that is a pretty large arc
Instead the 1 piece of debris found traveled in a smaller north westerly arc to La Reunion.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...ines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805 AUGUST 4, 2015
But the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search, said initial debris drift modeling undertaken in June 2014 had mistakenly indicated that the first possible landfall of debris would be on the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia, in the first weeks of July 2014.

Models run by Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization in November last year and updated last month found, however, that an Indonesia landfall was highly unlikely.

 

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http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-m...-for-link-to-missing-jet-20150816-gj0e0n.html AUGUST 17, 2015
MH370: More Maldives ocean debris to be tested for link to missing jet

Two new pieces of debris found in Maldives have been brought to Malaysia for examination into possible links to missing flight MH370, a senior official said on Sunday.
One piece of the debris is a honeycomb-like material while the other piece has a flat surface, according to Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai.

Malaysian experts last week ruled out debris previously recovered in Maldives as being linked to the disappeared Malaysian Airlines flight.

 

[watcher9]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-m...-for-link-to-missing-jet-20150816-gj0e0n.html AUGUST 17, 2015
MH370: More Maldives ocean debris to be tested for link to missing jet

Two new pieces of debris found in Maldives have been brought to Malaysia for examination into possible links to missing flight MH370, a senior official said on Sunday.
One piece of the debris is a honeycomb-like material while the other piece has a flat surface, according to Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai.

Malaysian experts last week ruled out debris previously recovered in Maldives as being linked to the disappeared Malaysian Airlines flight.

I sure hope there are positive results from these objects from the Maldives that they are part of MH370.

According to bottom of the article, it looks like they are ready to discontinue any searching on Reunion. I wonder if they think that the location of the flaperon finding was a fluke and are planning to shift their searching resources up to the Maldives since there seems to be more activity going on up there?

A sea, land and air search for more debris around Reunion Island was to be called off on Monday if no more debris was found over the weekend.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-m...issing-jet-20150816-gj0e0n.html#ixzz3j5LcEXMU
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[watcher9]

This article has a very pretty picture of the island of Reunion on its link to a video.
Apparently, the plane was grounded because it didn't receive orders from Reunion.

French search plane grounded despite launch of expanded operation.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-d...-operation-20150808-giusrc.html#ixzz3j5OcjPPO
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[watcher9]

There is a new app for beachcombers searching for debris from MH370.

"Spot MH370" app is designed for citizen beachcombers to photograph debris finds and have it catalogued on a publicly accessible website.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/spot-mh...r-wreckage-20150811-giwbsy.html#ixzz3j5KOuzO1
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[Roselvr]

Never saw this article either
So the search authorities thought that, with the drift debris model they had, that the debris would be washing up on land north of the search area in Sumatra, Indonesia..that is a pretty large arc
Instead the 1 piece of debris found traveled in a smaller north westerly arc to La Reunion.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015...ines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805 AUGUST 4, 2015
But the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search, said initial debris drift modeling undertaken in June 2014 had mistakenly indicated that the first possible landfall of debris would be on the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia, in the first weeks of July 2014.

Models run by Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization in November last year and updated last month found, however, that an Indonesia landfall was highly unlikely.

I'm pretty sure I posted something similar back then but it was from another news source.
I'm curious if Australia's beaches are being searched; especially since an unopened Malaysian moist towelette was found on the beach there back around December IIRC

 

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I sure hope there are positive results from these objects from the Maldives that they are part of MH370.

According to bottom of the article, it looks like they are ready to discontinue any searching on Reunion. I wonder if they think that the location of the flaperon finding was a fluke and are planning to shift their searching resources up to the Maldives since there seems to be more activity going on up there?

A sea, land and air search for more debris around Reunion Island was to be called off on Monday if no more debris was found over the weekend.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-m...issing-jet-20150816-gj0e0n.html#ixzz3j5LcEXMU
Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook

La Reunion has spent 10 days searching and have not found anything so they are discontinuing a coordinated search, though they continue to pass on debris found on the shoreline, beaches etc..
Thus far, None of the debris found in the Maldives has come back as being a part from a plane or coming from MH370, though 2 more items were found today and are being investigated.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/17/us-malaysiaairlines-lareunion-idUSKCN0QM1RZ20150817
Ten days of searching involving an army plane, two helicopters and a police speedboat have not found any more wreckage. Washed-up objects including water bottles have been passed on to investigators in case they can be linked to the plane, police said.

"The statistical chances of discovering debris from the MH370 during coordinated searches appear to be extremely small," Reunion police said, adding that they would continue to be vigilant.

 

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I'm pretty sure I posted something similar back then but it was from another news source.
I'm curious if Australia's beaches are being searched; especially since an unopened Malaysian moist towelette was found on the beach there back around December IIRC

I doubt a coordinated search effort is being done in in Australia unless something significant is found by someone like what happened in La Reunion.

With the drift models it seems they think the debris would be flowing in a north westerly direction
I still wonder if the plane landed further south and or west of the current search area..

 

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http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/authori...land-found-no-sign-of-missing-mh370-1.2520506

Authorities say search off Reunion island found no sign of missing MH370

Searchers scoured nearly 10,360 square kilometres of ocean using a plane, helicopters and a ship but found "nothing suspected of having any connection to a plane," local authorities said in a statement Monday.

 

[ilovepierre]

I have a strong feeling this plane will be found by the end of the year!
So much happening now!

 

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/19/malaysia-airlines-inspection-idUSL1N10U1RQ20150819

CORRECTED-Australia says French-led inspection of wing piece from MH370 completeAUG 19,2015

"The French-led investigation team examining the flaperon has concluded the first phase of inspection work," the Australian Transportation Safety Bureau said in web posting.

"French authorities will, in consultation with Malaysia, report on progress in due course," the posting added.

"It's just a very, very small confirmation that the aircraft was lost in the Indian Ocean," Jean-Paul Troadec, former president of France's BEA crash investigation agency, said in an interview.

He said the flaperon, while not intact, does suggest that there was not a violent impact with the water, because impact of other aircraft at high speed led to very small pieces of debris.

"If that were the case with MH370, you could expect pieces being much smaller than the flaperon," he said.

 

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http://news.yahoo.com/mh370-debris-exposes-divisions-over-air-crash-investigations-114418718.html

MH370 debris exposes divisions over air crash investigations Aug 21,2015

By drifting on to Reunion Island, the barnacled remains of a Boeing wing part from the Malaysia Airlines jet have given the upper hand to a French judicial investigation, exposing for the second time this year how civil crash investigations struggle to compete with police-led probes.

For decades, reconstructions of disasters by specialist safety investigators have been seen as crucial to making aviation safer, with accident rates at historically low levels.

JUDICIAL CONTROL

Those tensions are fresh in the minds of those now handling the MH370 investigation. While prosecutors have pledged to share their findings in due course, a judicial source stressed the flaperon would remain under judicial control.

Experts from several international agencies were allowed to witness its inspection but only after a delay of several days and under a judge's supervision, and not on BEA premises.

But in dozens of countries, notably France, they exist in uneasy co-habitation with separate criminal inquiries.

 

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http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2015/08/23/inmarsat-data-maths-and-physics-dont-lie-says-expert/ AUG 23,2015

Inmarsat data: Maths and physics don’t lie, says expert

Analysis corroborates Inmarsat’s finding
Zaaim Redha explained: “Simply put, the Inmarsat mobile satellite system is a mobile network (such as the GSM network) which has been redesigned to operate in a satellite environment. Your smartphone continuously ‘handshakes’ with a GSM base station on a rooftop nearby. In the case of Inmarsat, the terminal installed on the MH370 aircraft handshakes with its satellite.”
The MH370 Boeing 777-200ER aircraft was logged on to the Inmarsat-3 F1 satellite, which is located at a 64-degree east longitudinal slot somewhere in the middle between the southern tip of India and the northern tip of Madagascar island, and 36,000 kilometres above the equator.
“At this point, we could tell for sure the aircraft must have been within the area of a second imaginary circle with a radial distance of 4,000km and centered at the last ATC (Air Traffic Controller) radar contact point.
“After superimposing the above-mentioned imaginary circles and reviewing radar information in Southeast Asia, we could further deduce possible positions of the MH370 aircraft on two arcs, namely the northern and southern arcs.
“Then, Inmarsat engineers brilliantly recognised MH370’s Doppler pattern resembling the pattern of all other 777 aircraft moving southward that day. This was how it was concluded that flight MH370 had ended in the southern Indian Ocean.”
He said the discovery of an aircraft wing part, called a flaperon, on the Indian Ocean island of Reunion last month — which Malaysia had confirmed was from MH370 — also lent credence to Inmarsat’s findings.

 

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ORIGINAL article in French AUGUST 21,2015

http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/201...-a-balma-l-enquete-technique-est-bouclee.html
MH 370 : à Balma, l'enquête technique est bouclée

Les experts toulousains de la direction générale de l'armement ont terminé l'expertise du flaperon retrouvé à La Réunion. Rien ne permettrait de certifier à 100 % son appartenance au MH370!


TRANSLATED Article (Translated by Jeff Wise at http://jeffwise.net/2015/08/21/french-report-investigators-cant-link-reunion-flaperon-to-mh370/ )
http://www.globalresearch.ca/disapp...link-reunion-aircraft-debris-to-mh370/5471122 AUGUST 24, 2015

Investigators Fail to Link Reunion Aircraft Debris to MH370

Experts from the Directorate General of Armaments have finished surveying the flaperon found on Reunion Island. Nothing certifies that it belongs to MH370!

French Report: