Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #1

[Plumeria5]

Here is a flight log and then it eerily stops.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog

 

[lucky181]

I think this shows how differently other countries handle incidents like this. I guess someone could have taken a picture of the manifest in the airport, but that seems horrible to publish it with all the names so soon after the crash. And having relatives fly to the area. I certainly wouldn't want to be taken to the crash site.

 

[Brightbird]

I don't think I would want to go to the crash site either. Can't be sure how I would respond if it was my loved one though. I guess it's good if people have the option to go. I can only think it's for identification purposes but that hardly seems necessary with modern technology. Sure hope they have counsellors on hand. Then again, it could be another piece of misreporting amidst all the confusion.

 

[MsFacetious]

I find it hard to believe there is anything to identify, even if they DID find the plane. :twocents:

My brain hurts... but I think I got this figured out now. :scared:

So it "eerily stops" when the speed and altitude stop. At 12:02pm EST.
It looks like they had JUST gotten to 35,000 feet... just finished their climb.

There is a 13 hour time difference between Eastern time and Beijing/Malaysia time.
That makes it 1:02am local time when the plane dropped off the radar.
But that doesn't fit either... it "went missing 2:40am local time."
Unless they waited an hour and 40 minutes to report it missing once it dropped off the radar.
(See below post, it looks like it disappeared after 40 minutes of flight, not 2 hours!)

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog

So here is the GPS coordinates for the last known location:

The airport is Kuala Lumpur, south west of this spot.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Ca+...05.15!2d9.1833333!1m3!2m2!1d102.5278!2d4.7073

That doesn't look like a populated area at all... (zoom in) maybe they ARE there. :twocents:
If it was populated I was going to suggest the pilot AIMED for the water.
But I'm not so sure they got that far or had that much control. :banghead:

That small body of water appears to be a man made lake.
There is SOME civilization in that area.

http://www.lakekenyir.com/

 

[MsFacetious]

UPDATE [4:33pm]: Malaysia Airlines CEO says 80 percent of the family members of the people on board flight MH370 have been contacted. Full story here.

Meanwhile, acting Malaysian Transport Minister Hishamuddin Hussein that the authorities were slow to report on the missing Malaysia Airlines place. Read his response here.

http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

 

[christee]

BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking44m
Search for #MH370, missing for 12+ hours, under way in waters between #Malaysia & #Vietnam http://bbc.in/1cIVNoq pic.twitter.com/IJuKqQ1IIH

 

[MsFacetious]

The other flight tracking website and where IT says the plane disappeared:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...071771958.7699.111607872211978&type=1&theater


This makes a lot more sense with the FlightAware one too!
It had JUST reached cruising altitude... it had not been AT that altitude for more than a minute.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog


Flightradar24.com ‏@flightradar24 1m

After 15 hours Malaysia Airlines PR confirms that #MH370 disappeared near last Flightradar24 position and not "after 2 hours of flight"

Flightradar24.com ‏@flightradar24 1h

Incorrect time reports delayed search and rescue operation for flight #MH370 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...071771958.7699.111607872211978&type=1&theater …

Flightradar24.com ‏@flightradar24 3h

#MH370 disappeared from radar after 40 minutes and not 2 hours as media has been reporting. Flightradar24 showed correct position 4 h ago.

 

[Plumeria5]

Shouldn't there have been some sort of mayday communication there was a problem? It reminds me of the Challenger disaster. No warning.

 

[christee]

Saturday, March 08, 04:20 PM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 4th Media Statement

Sepang, 8 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines is still unable to establish any contact or determine the whereabouts of flight MH370. Earlier today, Subang ATC had lost contact with the aircraft at 2.40am. The last known position of MH370 before it disappeared off the radar was 065515 North (longitude) and 1033443 East (latitude).
<snip>

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

 

[Plumeria5]

Sigh...this is so sad. Here is a picture of a woman seeing her son off at the airport for flight 370.

https://twitter.com/rajasyahiranMY/status/442222518657490944/photo/1

 

[MsFacetious]

UPDATE [4:41]: Tempers flare. AFP reports that an elderly man, believed to be a family member of one of the passengers of flight MH370, punched a cameraman as he was trying to film events at the Beijing airport.

http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

We are deploying our “Go Team” to Beijing which will depart Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 4.30pm with a team of caregivers and volunteers to assist the family members of the passengers.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/malaysian-airlines-plane-live


Maybe that "Go Team" is why families are being asked to go to the airport? :waitasec:

 

[Snoods]

I know this heightened terrorist threat was for overseas flights heading into the US, but where was this plane going to next?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...overseas-flights-u-s-report-article-1.1620096

 

[Snoods]

Sigh...this is so sad. Here is a picture of a woman seeing her son off at the airport for flight 370.

https://twitter.com/rajasyahiranMY/status/442222518657490944/photo/1

Oh, Plumy, that is so sad...

 

[christee]

Jon Passantino &#8207;@passantino 3m
Map shows the last known position of MH370 before it vanished over the South China Sea http://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/malaysia-airlines-confirms-it-has-lost-contact-with-a-plane … pic.twitter.com/2jwhLxgW10

 

[Snoods]

Shouldn't there have been some sort of mayday communication there was a problem? It reminds me of the Challenger disaster. No warning.

It must have been quick, whatever it was. An explosion of some sort would be my guess.

 

[Mahouston69]

Hubby is a A&P maintenance mechanic. His best educated guess is engine was starved of fuel, whether it was improperly filled, gauge was broken, or ice slush in the fuel (777 engines were to be modified by 2011 to fix this issue that occurred to British Airways Flight 38) praying for all.

 

[MsFacetious]

I wondered about decompression when they hit 35,000 feet... :scared:

You can watch the progress of the flight here.
It takes a minute (possibly literally) to load so be patient.
If you hover over a plane it'll give you the flight number.
If you click ON the plane it'll give you it's altitude and everything at THAT point.

http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-03-07/16:50/24x/6.18,102.93/6

Our flight is the FIRST plane to go up and over the word Malaysia. (The ay part.)
Then it continues up to Kuala Terengganu with the blue dot (that's an AIRPORT!)

Then it goes out over the water and shortly after.... nothing.
That makes you sick... it just disappears. :tantrum:

I can't even imagine how frustrated these guys must have been!
Knowing where the plane dropped off radar and not being believed... :banghead:


Flightradar24.com &#8207;@flightradar24 4m

@9VSKA My point is that SAR has been delayed due to incorrect information first 11 hours.

 

[MsFacetious]

The Malaysian Insider news site is reporting that relatives of people on board the flight will be taken to the site once the airliner has been found. It has interviews with family members who have gone to Kuala Lumpur International airport to await news of the plane&#8217;s fate.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/malaysian-airlines-plane-live

 

[MsFacetious]

SERIOUSLY??? They haven't even FOUND it yet!! :banghead:

The former Malaysian MP Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin has angered people by making a joke in response to a tweet by broadcaster Piers Morgan about the flight’s disappearance.

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan

Incredible in the modern age that a large hi-tech passenger plane can just 'disappear'. Praying for a miracle for the 239 people on board.

YB DS Mohammad Nizar @mbnizar

@piersmorgan @bobkurus new bermuda triangle detected in vietnam waters, well equipped sophisticated devices are of no use!
9:04 PM - 7 Mar 2014

 

[MsFacetious]

Sunset is in 1.5 hours there.
I imagine the search will have to stop for the night at that point. lease:

(Do yourself a favor and go to google images and search "Malaysia sunset.")

Links to follow, I am off to bed:

http://my.news.yahoo.com/mas-aircraft-goes-missing--says-airline-023820132.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/08/malaysian-airlines-plane-live

https://twitter.com/flightradar24