Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #14

[Forensics]

While CNN has just announced NASA will help check satellite data and point space-based imaging equipment at the search area to assist with the search for the missing plane,
The Earth-Observing-1 (EO-1) satellite and the ISERV camera on the International Space Station would be able to provide images with a resolution that could be used to identify objects of about 30 metres or larger.

 

[LambChop]

Forensic, can we have a link for the Daily Telegraph article about the jet fuel?

 

[J1981]

While CNN has just announced NASA will help check satellite data and point space-based imaging equipment at the search area to assist with the search for the missing plane,
The Earth-Observing-1 (EO-1) satellite and the ISERV camera on the International Space Station would be able to provide images with a resolution that could be used to identify objects of about 30 metres or larger.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/22/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?c=homepage-t&page=2

 

[redheadedgal]

i'm still trying to figure out of either boeing or RR (or both) would have had the data/info to ascertain if the engines on this 777 shut down properly (landed) or not (crashed/exploded)... anyone? with all this supposed monitoring going on, it should be easily done imo !!

boeing airplane health management: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_3_07/article_04_1.html

RR engine health management (see "acquire"): http://www.rolls-royce.com/about/technology/systems_tech/monitoring_systems.jsp

 

[LadyL]

My apologies if this has been posted - I've dropped off the thread somewhat due to lack of new info.

I think it's possible that the pilot was having an affair and instructed the woman to only call him from a pre-paid phone but that doesn't explain why she would've used fake i.d. unless she just didn't want it traced to her for her own nefarious reasons. This may also explain the wife possibly leaving suddenly (even if she did only go to another house).

 

[LaborDayRN]

A report in the Daily Telegraph (australia) has quoted an aviation expert who is certain what happened to MH370 wasn’t an accident — with the evidence pointing to the plane’s crew being involved. Neil Hansford, chairman of Strategic Aviation Solutions, said: “I think it’s been put there either by one of the crew or both, and they’ve picked an area where the aircraft won’t be found.
“This was a crew-related incident. It wasn’t a catastrophic explosion. It wasn’t hit by military ordnance.”
He said the near full tank of fuel with 117,00 litres instead of the 45 per cent required to fly to Beijing, was an indicator it was not an accident.

Do you happen to have a link?

 

[Forensics]

Why/how would it only be up to the crew how much fuel is put in before take-off? Can a pilot just say "fill it up"?

That I don't know .... but various news media have used this 'expert' on several occasions concerning MH370. Here is his bio:-


Neil Hansford

Neil has more than 30 years experience in the airline/aviation/express industry and the airport sector coupled with an increasing involvement in e-borders and secure airports. He is an expert in the establishment of express freight air and ground networks. Neil has been chairman at Strategic Aviation Solutions for the past 16 years. Neil has been a director of Planitas Airline Systems, managing director of Australia Challenge Airlines, and from 1986 to 1991 was managing director of TNT International Aviation Services.

I would assume that he would at least know about fuelling procedures.

 

[Isabelle]

I think officials should start numbering object sightings via satellite as S-1,2, etc and visual sightings as V or E-1,2, etc. Hard to tell what sighting is being referred to.

 

[Forensics]

Forensic, can we have a link for the Daily Telegraph article about the jet fuel?

Here is another article published in the daily mail UK which quotes Neil Hansford

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...berate-pilot-intervention-search-debris-resum

 

[Isabelle]

i'm still trying to figure out of either boeing or RR (or both) would have had the data/info to ascertain if the engines on this 777 shut down properly (landed) or not (crashed/exploded)... anyone? with all this supposed monitoring going on, it should be easily done imo !!

boeing airplane health management: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_3_07/article_04_1.html

RR engine health management (see "acquire"): http://www.rolls-royce.com/about/technology/systems_tech/monitoring_systems.jsp

They would know according to the information they receive.

 

[Forensics]

Do you happen to have a link?

Have found yet another news media reporting on Neil Hansford's theory..

http://www.news.com.au/world/malays...ern-indian-ocean/story-fndir2ev-1226860748694

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Why/how would it only be up to the crew how much fuel is put in before take-off? Can a pilot just say "fill it up"?

Fuel weighs a lot. The more weight on the aircraft when it takes off the more fuel it burns. The crew figures out the weight of the passengers and cargo plus the distance to their destination. They then calculate the required amount of fuel needed plus a reserve.

That's how they determine how much fuel to take on. If they just "filled up" on every flight, they would waste fuel by being heavier than necessary at takeoff and cost more money in fuel. Airlines don't like to waste money.

MOO.

 

[Bonnie2487]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ers-and-crew-out/story-fni0cx4q-1226861706507

 

[joerose]

And, my favorite theory.... they don't want hijackers to know they are looking elsewhere simultaneously!

Exactly! I would think they would have other covert operations/searches/investigations going on while this main one is being focused on in the media.

 

[redheadedgal]

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[alioop]

Neil Hansford has stolen my theory about the plane being deliberately flown to a
remote deep water location so it will be unlikely to be found. Maybe he reads ws!

 

[belimom]

Neil Hansford has stolen my theory about the plane being deliberately flown to a
remote deep water location so it will be unlikely to be found. Maybe he reads ws!

But the question remains: why? What is on that plane that the pilot(s) would sacrifice their lives to hide in deep water (i.e., crash)?

I think the pilot(s) did it but just don't know where they were headed. I think the intent was to land somewhere.

 

[cluciano63]

Have any of these floating objects been seen by actual eyes yet, or are they just images from a satellite?

 

[aa9511]

Exactly! I would think they would have other covert operations/searches/investigations going on while this main one is being focused on in the media.

bbm

I think this too. And not just one of my "far-fetched" theories. I really think this could be a credible theory.

If the last military data point showed the plane going northwest direction, how did it end up deep south indian ocean?

 

[aa9511]

I finally slept last night ... more than 4 hours anyway. I don't know why this is affecting my sleep as I don't know anyone on the flight or connected with the story. WS cases don't usually have such a strong effect on my personal life.

Yes, LadyL, I know exactly what you mean. I finally got a good night's sleep last night. I can't imagine how the families are coping