Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #14

[CARIIS]

The 20 Free scale employees, among 239 people on flight MH370, were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company's chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient, said Mitch Haws, vice president, global communications (we lost commuication with this aircraft right!)and investor relations.

"These were people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people,"

Microchips used in automobiles, consumer products, telecommunications infrastructure and industrial equipment.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-malaysia-airlines-freescale-idUSBREA280T020140309



These are the new microchips technology they were working on:
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Currently, the majority of flight crews receive verbal route instructions from an ATC prior to taxiing. The pilot then repeats that transmission back to the ATC to ensure that they have the correct information.

However, an aircraft equipped with a Data Comma receiver obtains that same route information digitally, and the pilot confirms by pressing a button in the cockpit. The instructions are then loaded directly into the aircraft's onboard computer system in seconds, significantly cutting down on the minute’s pilots waste sitting on the runway burning fuel before takeoff.

The second phase of the Data Comma program will deploy Controller Pilot Data Link Communications (CPDLC) to En Route ATC centers, giving controllers even more connection to the aircraft's flight deck with the digital transfer of communications, validation and assignment of altitudes, revised route information and issuance of altimeters, according to Geyer.
"Certain tasks that are currently only able to be achieved by the radar controller via voice will now be shared among the sector team. This will allow the radar controller time to run a more efficient sector. The ability to send route information that is in a loadable format to the flight deck will not only reduce the time it takes to input the data, but will also reduce input errors that occur," Geyer added. –

http://www.aviationtoday.com/av/com...-for-2016-IOC_81690.html#sthash.Jj6vhabH.dpuf

A US technology company which had 20 senior staff on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 had just launched a new electronic warfare gadget for military radar systems in the days before the Boeing 777 went missing.

And on March 3, it announced it was releasing 11 of these new gadgets for use in “high frequency, VHF and low-band UHF radar and radio communications”.

Freescale Semiconductor, which makes powerful microchips for industries including defence, released the powerful new products to the American market on March 3.

Freescale’s spokesman Mitch Haws has said: “These were all people with a lot of experience and technical background and they were very important people.

Freescale’s shareholders include the Carlyle Group of private equity investors whose past advisers have included ex-US president George Bush Sr and former British Prime Minister John Major.

Carlyle’s previous heavyweight clients include the Saudi Binladin Group, the construction firm owned by the family of Osama bin Laden.



By: Ted Jeory
Published: Wed, March 19, 2014

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company





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Scary huh...................................

Many years ago (1948-1952), the technology was developed that allowed an unmanned plane (the Jindivik .. and others) to fly/be flown.



http://wikipedia.org/wiki/GAF_Jindivik


I wonder if there is now, many years later in 2014, technology that can hijack a commercial plane’s autopilot and fly the plane from the ground? Or try to fly it from the ground, if very erratically?

Just thinking outside the square .....

 

[mommylicious]

RE: autopilot. I get that a plane can follow the waypoints it did with autopilot. Where I'm confused is why the autopilot would take it out into the middle of the ocean until it ran out of fuel. If it was on a path to a point when it ran out, what point would that be so far south? Is it possible that the autopilot route wasn't completed (didn't have an end point) and so the plane hit the last point and just continued on the trajectory it was on until it ran out?

 

[ElleElle]

the three systems that would stop on a impact stay running and the two systems that would activate in the event of a crash have done nothing

just think it landed!

BBM ~ I think it landed and no one is saying anything. Remember Malaysian PM said there was no ransom? Maybe they are negotiating as there are hostages. :twocents:

 

[ElleElle]

I totally agree with you, JaimeSommers. This whole thing with the Malaysian government has been ridiculous from the beginning.

Some days I think the plane never turned unless it was down and to the west to try to land in Viet Nam somewhere. I watched a whole series of videos of plane crashes on video yesterday. The videos were sponsored by National Geographic and others on youtube.

I watched a video on a British Airways Flight #38. Approximately 20 minutes into the video, there was mention of a Malaysian flight was being 'computer driven' (their words). The auto-pilot pulled the nose of the plane up to approximately 38,000 feet. The pilot did manage to get the plane safely down, but they were over land. That video was @
http://youtube.com/watch?v=THiegvdmU

So their are instances of the auto-pilot malfunctioning in the 777. Can't remember where the other video was, but there was an instance of the auto-pilot disengaging when bumped and the plane making a rapid descent.

I have begun to think there was an electrical fire onboard, the auto-pilot malfunctioned, drove the nose up, then rapid descent. Then everything came back online. The pilot could have tried to land the plane on the nearest land which would most likely be in Viet Nam. I think that just maybe that guy on the oil rig did actually see something. This crew and the passengers may be on dry land and desperately need rescued.

There is always a first time for everything. There may be a first time for the 777 to malfunction in a certain way.

Have we begun to build planes smarter than we are? The plane can fly itself and even land itself. What next?

I need to stick to crimes and mysteries on the ground I think!

:moo:

BBM ~ Commercial drones. No more pilots? Scary thought, but possible.

 

[Tiepos]

I'm thinking if it went into the ocean and was fairly deep, not everything would breakaway immediately. That depending on where the plane landed it might continue to break apart releasing floatable items that make their way to the surface. This could account for the differences in their locations. jmo

Hmmm, good point. Of course this doesn’t explain why the impact sensors didn’t register, or why the monitoring systems (SBIRS or CTBTO) didn’t register any impact explosions.

Although, thinking about it further - how big an explosion would there be if the plane was virtually out of fuel. :dunno: You’d think there would still be some explosion, since there would be at the very least - fumes left, and those fumes are flammable, right?

 

[mommylicious]

no-- lime is always good. margarita anyone? i know i could use one about now !!

I'll take one. My 4 year old is going through some phase right now where everything seems to be a battle. :banghead:

 

[panthera]

This may have been already commented on but the following article is well worth a read. It is in point form and a quick read.

Amazing Facts Highlighted by Malaysian Airliner Mystery

http://abcnews.go.com/International...-malaysian-airliner-mystery/story?id=23019264

Very informative and succinct. Thanks!

 

[MrsG728]

I know that this may not be a warm question, but I can't help but to be curious about it.

Does anyone know if there are pets on board this flight?

Please, no flames. I am just curious.

lease:lease:lease: those poor families.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Thanks! Again, I'm just curious. The one man does slightly resemble the Italian whose passport was stolen. Guess it just depends how elaborate the operation is.

MOO

I'm trying to remember if it was on this thread or the brainstorming one, but one of two men (someone mentioned they looked like new hair cuts) had dyed his hair the night before to look more like his passport.

 

[panthera]

I'm thinking if it went into the ocean and was fairly deep, not everything would breakaway immediately. That depending on where the plane landed it might continue to break apart releasing floatable items that make their way to the surface. This could account for the differences in their locations. jmo

In addition, it would depend HOW it went into the ocean, in my opinion, such as steep nose dive at high speed vs. something akin to gliding in. Also, the plane could have had parts break off prior to impact. Such a large area to search and water that is very deep in some places. Praying the searchers find SOMETHING!

MOO

 

[Momoffourboys]

I'll take one. My 4 year old is going through some phase right now where everything seems to be a battle. :banghead:

You will need more than one!:floorlaugh:

 

[Hatfield]

Does anyone know where exactly Malaysia officials are getting the information about the altitude from (45,000 feet, 28,, 500 feet)?

There has been so much confusion that I am forgetting how they got the original information.

Exactly. It seems they try to base the altitude assumptions they are making based on Radar. However, what happened to the news story about it going to 45000 feet and then as low as 5000 feet and now today CNN is harping about going to 12000 feet after the turn.

I cant put too much weight into any of it because of how they keep changing their stories.

And regarding the satellite images I have yet to see a clear image. I am not buying any more crap about protecting how good their sattelite systems are.
Show us the clearest pictures you got of that debris and until you do, I still say they could be clouds OR dolphins/whales feeding on schools of fish.

No matter what the scenerio, I just dont see the plane being that far south and think they are making a huge mistake putting all the resources into chasing blurry satellite images.

When they ask the experts doing the searching, they keep saying they are going where they are told. Who in the heck is ordering all these resources to the southern location where all we have is 3 blurry images that could be anything.

And another thing that really has been bothering me. OK, so they spot a wooden pallet. Why in the heck did they not drop a marker boyey so they could find it the next day. The very next day we hear they cant find the wooden pallet now. WTH?

I am beginning to think the imcompetancy is across the board. And I dont think these satellite images are going to turn out to be anything worth chasing. They seriously need some planes that can refuel in mid-air and they seriously need to break up the searching to the theories much more closer to where that last turn was.

 

[panthera]

I'm trying to remember if it was on this thread or the brainstorming one, but one of two men (someone mentioned they looked like new hair cuts) had dyed his hair the night before to look more like his passport.

Perhaps the one trying to impersonate Luigi, as the other one would need a totally different photo (his own?) than the real one. Actually surprised that this stolen passport racket couldn't find one from Europe that wasn't from a 61 year old man.

MOO

 

[LaLaw2000]

perishables (many fruits, vegs, fish etc) often shipped via air to ensure freshness for consumers:

http://www.foodlogistics.com/article/10657411/shipping-perishables-by-air-cargo

http://www.freshplaza.com/article/97921/EU-Last-3-years-Air-delivery-has-been-increased

*not sure if pallets make it onboard... some pics show only airline containers loaded with fruit and pallets left behind while others show pallets @ loading site...

**Big sigh**

Google says that most fruit entering this country (United States) now arrives here by ship. This is because there was a problem with a certain type of fruit fly entering the country a few years ago. Your links speak about Canada.

I'm done with this. It wasn't even my original point to begin with.

:moo:

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Another twist if you're getting tired of the same ole 30 or 40...

"Was Malaysia Airlines #MH370 Redirected to Diego Garcia?": http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/ … Diego had no scheduled flights for 72hrs March 8th #370Qs

 

[Forensics]

Also, regarding the various locations of potential debris.

If I’m remembering correctly, the first satellite image, taken on the 16th (??) after the plane disappeared, showed potential debris in one location. The second image, taken by the Chinese satellite on the 18th (??), showed more (or the same) potential debris 100km or so southwest of the original satellite hit, right?

So now, if it was the same debris, would the current not be carrying it in a southwestern direction?

How then would the new French data (captured this Friday, the 21st, right?) show debris 500km to the north? If the theory is that debris has drifted there, isn’t it drifting in the opposite direction?



I fully admit that I haven’t given this a ton of thought, so I could be missing something obvious. :laughitup:


Also, if there was a midair explosion, that would have been detected on the systems mentioned on the previous page, yes?

I don't believe it is the SAME debris but more potential debris from MH370.
We don't yet know the impact site, it could well have been well north of the French sighting so everything could potentially be drifting southward but scattering due to the strong currents.

 

[LambChop]

Hmmm, good point. Of course this doesn’t explain why the impact sensors didn’t register, or why the monitoring systems (SBIRS or CTBTO) didn’t register any impact explosions.

Although, thinking about it further - how big an explosion would there be if the plane was virtually out of fuel. :dunno: You’d think there would still be some explosion, since there would be at the very least - fumes left, and those fumes are flammable, right?

Depends on the depth of the ocean where it sunk. I would think it would break apart from the pressure if it did, indeed, go into the ocean and sank. jmo

 

[Intermezzo]

Interesting, too, that China is apparently 'throwing its full weight' (two planes??) behind the search for its missing citizens.




http://www.smh.com.au/world/china-t...light-mh370-20140323-35ar5.html#ixzz2wpeZzLuY

I thought it was more than 2 but...
China has also sent an ice beaker
other ships are on the way to the South Indian ocean

 

[Tiepos]

Yeah, and if the plane happened to do a smooth belly flop landing like Sully did in NY East River then there is a chance it just slowly sank eventually with little or no debris ever floating up. In the NY incident that plane was slowly sinking and if it was in deeper water I think the whole plane would have eventually sunk to bottom.

JMO based on what little I know based on watching news reports.

Again though, the major difference - the one which makes that scenario almost impossible - is that in the Hudson River landing, the pilot was (trying to) control the descent and that is what made that landing possible.

If he had been incapacitated and therefore unable to work the controls, there is no way the plane would have remained intact. It would have been torn apart.

All of scenarios presented that involve the MH370 running out of fuel, also involve no one at the controls.

 

[Tiepos]

**Big sigh**

Google says that most fruit entering this country (United States) now arrives here by ship. This is because there was a problem with a certain type of fruit fly entering the country a few years ago. Your links speak about Canada.

I'm done with this. It wasn't even my original point to begin with.

:moo:

The entire thing is irrelevant because the fruit in question wasn’t on a flight destined for the US anyway, so US (and Canadian) regulations mean nothing.