Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #15

[Waddles]

I am going to cry ..bbl

me too Soulmagent, very much a flood here
:blowkiss:

 

[LaborDayRN]

Sure, but they don't need to be burdened at this time with details that need explaining.

If it were my son, daughter or husband the detail I would want to know for a fact is that the plane had been found. I would not be satisfied with a statement that read "we have to assume". MOO

 

[aa9511]

Thank goodness that cnn brought in Anderson. I can not take the ridiculous drama by the daytime hosts.


Forgive the autocorrect. Tapatalk has a mind of its own.

Yes, ITA. Thank you for that, CNN.

I also like Richard Quest - he tries to actually explain things.

So it's good they are both on right now.

 

[Lola68]

The orange is thought to be life jackets from what CNN said on the live feed

Oh dear. That would suggest the passengers were fully aware they were going down into the sea and had tried to get their life jackets on. Must have been terrifying.

 

[SouthAussie]

1:51am: Beijing: Distressing scenes of absolute anguish have broken out at the Lido Hotel in Beijing, after relatives of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 received the news that the plane had ended in the Indian Ocean.

Family members filed sombrely into the hotel's conference room after being told to gather urgently at the hotel for a news update.

Minutes later, many burst out of the room openly wailing, some collapsing on the floor and needing to be held up by paramedics and police at the scene.

One man threw himself down an escalator and refused to get up, having to be dragged onto his feet by reporters.

Loud wailing and sobbing could be heard from outside the room as a steady stream of paramedics brought in stretchers.

For more than two weeks, these family members have come to this hotel daily for news updates, hanging on to every last bit hope.

Tonight, that has been taken away.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysi...jects-found-20140324-35e3d.html#ixzz2wtNiUuWW

 

[Tssiemer]

I am so flipping mad ..


16 days .
This sounds like witch doctor crap.
On day 1-15 no one knows crap .. then all of the sudden stuff is floating in the debris hub of the ocean and they are able to assume everyone is dead. Never mind the fact the plane didnt have gas to get there,wasnt seen by radar after 2:15 .


Now tell us what happen , REALLY.,

I'm not believing this stuff has been floating IN THE SAME SPOT for 16 days.....

There's no confirmation this is the plane... wth...

ETA: I'm splitting my attention between CNN and the Teghan Skiba trial... sorry if I missed something.

 

[LadyL]

I am going to cry ..bbl

:grouphug:

 

[J1981]

Oh dear. That would suggest the passengers were fully aware they were going down into the sea and had tried to get their life jackets on. Must have been terrifying.

Hopefully not and they instead surfaced after the plane crashed.

 

[trigger]

But then why go into this thing about Immarsat?

If the debris has been verified, why not just release this information during the same statement? Something like, "we have verified a piece (or pieces) of the plane from the Indian Ocean. This, combined with Immarsat's analysis of the data, leads us to conclude with certainty that it ended in the Southern Indian Ocean.

From PM's statement, he makes it sound like it was this new analysis by Immarsat which caused them to reach the conclusion that it ended up in the Indian Ocean.

However, he gave no details as to how this analysis was done or whatnew data Immarsat had.

JMO.

So true because now the families have to go through another ordeal tomorrow

 

[JerseyGirl]

If it were my son, daughter or husband the detail I would want is to know for a fact the plane had been found. I would not be satisfied with a state ex that read "we have to assume". MOO

He never made an ASSUMPTION in his speech, it was a CONCLUSION:

This evening I was briefed by representatives from the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB). They informed me that Inmarsat, the UK company that provided the satellite data which indicated the northern and southern corridors, has been performing further calculations on the data. Using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort, they have been able to shed more light on MH370′s flight path.

Based on their new analysis, Inmarsat and the AAIB have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor, and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth.

This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

We will be holding a press conference tomorrow with further details. In the meantime, we wanted to inform you of this new development at the earliest opportunity. We share this information out of a commitment to openness and respect for the families, two principles which have guided this investigation.

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/asia/full-statement-of-malaysian-prime-minister-najib-razak/

bbm

 

[SouthAussie]

14:53: The BBC's Richard Westcott has spoken to British satellite company Inmarsat, which said its data was given to the UK's Air Accident Investigation Branch on Sunday, and that the calculations were based on an entirely new way of modelling the movement of aircraft.

15:00: Inmarsat said the new calculation basically involved crunching far more data - things like what other aircraft were doing at the time - and it needed to be checked before it went public.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26711298

 

[kimi_SFC]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysi...jects-found-20140324-35e3d.html#ixzz2wtDQeg6g

I am curious as to why this information was not released earlier...

:waitasec:

How long ago was the story published? is the March 24th date AUS time, or is it adjusted to the reader?

The Australian Air Force is doing a tremendous job of finding whatever they can. I recall an analogy of a hair in a swimming pool (paraphrase), and even that seems to minimize the task at hand, especially now that the Malaysian PM has made his "announcement."

After this many days, going into weeks, the family and the global public awaits validation, in addition to his words of the end of MH370. The family, especially, need some sort of closure, in the wake of the handling of the case by certain authorities, IMO. I hope they receive it.

They've already been through immeasurable suffering. My heart is with them as they continue to await the next chapter in this saga that is their lives. We are with them, in support. If only it were enough.

#PrayForMH370

 

[LadyL]

Oh dear. That would suggest the passengers were fully aware they were going down into the sea and had tried to get their life jackets on. Must have been terrifying.

couldn't it just mean that when the plane hit the water, lifejackets ended up floating around with the rest of the debris?

 

[aa9511]

Thank you... I have been looking all over for any details. I'd especially like to know if this is basically a reverification or actually new data? And, if this is the 'arc' data, how have they ruled out the Northern route.

(or am I misunderstanding all this?)

No, you are not misunderstanding.

We, the public, do not really have any new information.

I do not know about the family members - it could be that they have given them whatever detailed information they had. We just don't know.

But as far as the public is concerned, IMO, there is no new information. We do not know what "new data" Immarsat had. We dont' know if they have verified any of the debris.

We still don't really know anything.

JMO.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Hopefully not and they instead surfaced after the plane crashed.

It was reported in a post a while ago that because of the water temperature, no one would have survived longer than a few hours.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

So we are talking about 2 miles or more to the ocean floor??


Forgive the autocorrect. Tapatalk has a mind of its own.

 

[time]

Prime Ministers statement

This evening I was briefed by representatives from the UK Air Accident investigation branch, or AAIB. They inform me that Inmarsat, the UK company that provided the satellite data which indicated northern and southern corridors, has been performing further calculations on the data, using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort.

They have been able to shed more light on MH370’s flight path. Based on their new analysis. Inmarsat and the AAIB have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth.

This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, Flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ff3e02-b35e-11e3-8020-b2d790b3c9e1_story.html

I think he could be using the term 'new data' in a confusing manner where new data came from a reanalysis of the same data they had.

 

[Nymeria]

Oh dear. That would suggest the passengers were fully aware they were going down into the sea and had tried to get their life jackets on. Must have been terrifying.

Or it could just mean the plane broke apart and anything buoyant floated up to the top.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Did I just see that these families were notified by text that their loved ones were lost??? Please tell me that is not true. Please tell me someone has a brain that is dealing with this crisis.

Discussion on CNN indicated that the families likely agreed to this method of notification as soon as anything was known about the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of flight MH370. Given the number of families and their various locations while they await news, texting was the most expedient way for investigators to contact them. Authorities also wanted family members to know before anything was reported in the media.

 

[aa9511]

He never made an ASSUMPTION in his speech, it was a CONCLUSION:

This evening I was briefed by representatives from the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB). They informed me that Inmarsat, the UK company that provided the satellite data which indicated the northern and southern corridors, has been performing further calculations on the data. Using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort, they have been able to shed more light on MH370′s flight path.

Based on their new analysis, Inmarsat and the AAIB have concluded that MH370 flew along the southern corridor, and that its last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth.

This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

We will be holding a press conference tomorrow with further details. In the meantime, we wanted to inform you of this new development at the earliest opportunity. We share this information out of a commitment to openness and respect for the families, two principles which have guided this investigation.

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/asia/full-statement-of-malaysian-prime-minister-najib-razak/

bbm

I thnk the poster was referring to the tweet....in the tweet (text?) it said "we have to assume....".