Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #17

[ElleElle]

When you learn to learn Malaysian, could you learn me? :floorlaugh:

It's a language!

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_language"]Malaysian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[Brightbird]

Regarding the planes route along the waypoints and this matching the borders of ATC, could that be another coincidence? Are ATC borders usually mapped out according to waypoints? What I don't really understand is whether it's normal to fly along waypoints if the plane is diverted in an emergency. Sorry if this makes no sense. I'll admit, I'm doggedly hanging on the mechanical problem theory - but I'm only about 60% convinced.

 

[ElleElle]

I thought the Co-Pilot was the one who communicated with air traffic control? At least that's what all the Air Crash Investigation leads me to believe.

Co-pilot is the same as FO (First Officer).

 

[miley]

Hi WS Friends

SORRY to just jump in, I can't keep up with the posts. But, can anyone answer for me the name of that French Island down by the search area???? I want to research it....

The other day, I saw a tiny French island called Ile Amsterdam.
Its a little closer to the search area.

 

[aa9511]

I think you should send a tweet to Anderson Cooper. Give them something meaningful to talk about. I turned the channel the other day because they had some tweet that really wasn't comment worthy in the first place, then one of the expert went off on how people are picking on Malaysia (how he got there from that tweet IDK )

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Yeah, some of the tweets are pretty lame.

I am not on "the twitter" yet.

 

[ElleElle]

Regarding the planes route along the waypoints and this matching the borders of ATC, could that be another coincidence? Are ATC borders usually mapped out according to waypoints? What I don't really understand is whether it's normal to fly along waypoints if the plane is diverted in an emergency. Sorry if this makes no sense. I'll admit, I'm doggedly hanging on the mechanical problem theory - but I'm only about 60% convinced.

I get what you're saying.

Is it coincidence, MH370, just flew under the radar with all things considering.

That one does trip me up a bit, because it seems to "planned".

Didn't they say the flight plan was altered manually? Someone knew the path to avoid every single radar in its path?

:waitasec: Now you got me thinking!

 

[ElleElle]

I wish we can live stream the SAR.

 

[Hatfield]

That doesn't make sense to me since the satellites don't require Ground Control Points (GCP) they use onboard GPS and star trackers You can task them for any area you like, provided you can position the satellite at the correct time and don't have cloud cover (which has been a problem with this AOI)

Was thinking it maybe helpful to get some images of one of the boats in the same set of pictures as some of the debri so they could see how far away they are from it and what direction.

 

[Momoffourboys]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Yeah, some of the tweets are pretty lame.

I am not on "the twitter" yet.

Quite active on "the facebook"?:floorlaugh:

 

[ElleElle]

Source:
The Independent
http://ind.pn/1m8okcN #MH370 pic.twitter.com/KPLAMes7aF

 

[Brightbird]

I get what you're saying.

Is it coincidence, MH370, just flew under the radar with all things considering.

That one does trip me up a bit, because it seems to "planned".

Didn't they say the flight plan was altered manually? Someone knew the path to avoid every single radar in its path?

:waitasec: Now you got me thinking!

Except it didn't avoid every radar, it was caught on Malaysian an Thai military radar. The transponder was off so ATC couldn't track them either way. I just mean did they attempt a turn around following waypoints which also happened to be the waypoints marking the ATC borders? What I can't explain is the northwest and final south turn.

Eta: all the coincidences are troubling. But it's such a bizarre unprecedented event so I keep asking myself if it wasn't caused by a really bizarre and unprecedented set of mishaps.

 

[LambChop]

ok ok..... "sealed evidence including air traffic control radio transcript, radar data and airport security recordings" that can not be made public!!!!!!

yep we are not getting the full story here....wonder why it cant be made public??? does anyone have any ideas?

Wonder if it has anything to do with those Chicago attorneys that plan to represent the victim's families? jmo

 

[LinasK]

I get what you're saying.

Is it coincidence, MH370, just flew under the radar with all things considering.

That one does trip me up a bit, because it seems to "planned".

Didn't they say the flight plan was altered manually? Someone knew the path to avoid every single radar in its path?

:waitasec: Now you got me thinking!

There was a reason this plane was turned around, and it just isn't logical to think they flew 7 hours towards the Indian Ocean because of a fire or mechanical problems. If that would've occurred, they would've found a closer airport than running out of fuel.

 

[ToutCa]

I get what you're saying.

Is it coincidence, MH370, just flew under the radar with all things considering.

That one does trip me up a bit, because it seems to "planned".

Didn't they say the flight plan was altered manually? Someone knew the path to avoid every single radar in its path?

:waitasec: Now you got me thinking!

But that's just it, it didn't avoid radars.

Thai and Malaysian military radar tracked it from 1:21-2:15am.

All it had to do to avoid any civilian radar was unplug its transponder. It could then fly wherever it wanted unseen.

Since the transponder was indeed unplugged, the question is, was it done by a human hand or by some sort of onboard catastrophe?

 

[Forensics]

I know we get frustrated as we anxiously wait for news that actual debris has been sighted, but spare a thought for the crew. The search zone is in a remote region of the Southern Indian Ocean where bad weather is the norm rather than the exception. Yesterday the search was discontinued amidst thunderstorms and gale force winds. The specialist visual 'spotters' are also battling fatigue and tricks of the mind. "For all the fancy technology on board the planes and vessels scouring the swirling waters, the best tool searchers have are is their own eyes — but they can play tricks or blink at the wrong moment." I expect the trip to and from the site, which takes hours, would be monotonous after a while, then the intense concentration required to inspect every inch of their search site, only to be repeated on the next foray and the one after that....it certainly would have to take its toll.

:loveyou:Great work you guys!! We are proud of you all!!:loveyou:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226867105992

 

[geokaren]

Was thinking it maybe helpful to get some images of one of the boats in the same set of pictures as some of the debri so they could see how far away they are from it and what direction.

That wouldn't be necessary since the imagery is georeferenced, they have the coordinates for each object they've spotted. I'm sure they are using them on the SAR boats. It's just moving! What they need is real-time! wouldn't that be awesome?

 

[MLO]

Co-pilot is the same as FO (First Officer).

Yeah I know. I thought you were saying that the Captain might have been out of the cockpit because it was the co-pilot saying goodnight. I would have thought the co-pilot would have said it regardless.

 

[faw720]

Why? There is 0 evidence of sabotage against the pilot at this point.

The co-pilot makes me feel uncomfortable, and he did say the last words, and then BAM the communications are disabled.

JMO.

As one who has suffered from malicious slander & also malicious slander against some members of my family, I can guarantee everyone that it is NEVER a path you want to travel. It is the most hurtful thing you will ever have to endure in your life when you KNOW that what is being said is totally untrue. I will have to be shown proof positive before I believe the pilot or co-pilot were responsible for this crash. This is JMO.

 

[ElleElle]

Except it didn't avoid every radar, it was caught on Malaysian an Thai military radar. The transponder was off so ATC couldn't track them either way. I just mean did they attempt a turn around following waypoints which also happened to be the waypoints marking the ATC borders? What I can't explain is the northwest and final south turn.

Eta: all the coincidences are troubling. But it's such a bizarre unprecedented event so I keep asking myself if it wasn't caused by a really bizarre and unprecedented set of mishaps.

kay: Yes, the simplest guess would be auto-pilot? IDK. Everything is top secret. :banghead:

 

[ElleElle]

There was a reason this plane was turned around, and it just isn't logical to think they flew 7 hours towards the Indian Ocean because of a fire or mechanical problems. If that would've occurred, they would've found a closer airport than running out of fuel.

Not if the whole plane was dead due to hypoxia, after trying to head to the closest airport. I'm still trying to think occam's razor.