Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #19

[CoverMeCagney]

I dropped off this thread for awhile because of Relisha Rudd's case, but when reading the news this morning, I had a thought: planes should be equipped with some sort of dye designed to float on the surface for about 72 hrs if it crashes in the ocean.

Back to lurkdom... :seeya:

Absolutely brilliant idea... but it wouldn't have worked in this case as it was more than 72 hours til they decided it was in the Indian Ocean. 72 days might be more appropriate!!

 

[Roselvr]

When the word hijacking is being used are folks making that different than terrorist? To me there is a diff and this is not IMO a hijacking but a terrorist act.???

Not finding the article I want where Philip Wood's fiance talks about it.

Finding Philip Wood FB page

Teacher vows reunion with missing Malaysia jet passenger March 28, 2014 "If they find the bodies, then I'll change my opinion, but there's no evidence that points to a crash," Sarah Bajc says.

 

[Isabelle]

When the word hijacking is being used are folks making that different than terrorist? To me there is a diff and this is not IMO a hijacking but a terrorist act.???

I would consider a plane hijacking an act of terrorism.

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/navjot-singh/post_7222_b_5056524.html

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/...search-id-method-for-debris-from-malaysia-jet

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...boeing-777-costs-320-million-dollars/7063805/

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngog...f-malaysia-air-flight-370-will-be-determined/

 

[Riverking21]

Ok so maybe a dumb question. I know there are a lot of UFO investigators out there. So here is my question. Does anyone know what the "UFO activity" is like along the supposed flight path? Is it a hot spot?

 

[time]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/navjot-singh/post_7222_b_5056524.html

I feel some cognitive distress trying to wade through what Malaysian officials are saying. The statements at the end of this article by the Chief of Royal Malaysian Air Force are one example. Another is wondering why they are making such a big deal about whether they, in fact, said the plane had crashed or not.:waitasec:

 

[Prosecution_Rests]

Hatfield,

Just to touch on one of your posts in the closed thread as far as the satellite images not being dependable. Yes, you are exactly right. This has always been the case.

This is why I mentioned before that Malaysia must have or have seen some groundbreaking technology (that the United States have never even heard of, let alone have) if they were able to make the bold statement to the families that their families were in the Ocean without physical proof.

How would they know? Satellite means very little, especially when you are dealing with an Ocean that is so polluted. Orange, green , yellow, etc materials literally can be anything and probably is anything other than this plane.

 

[faw720]

I think the hope is more for hijacking since they have not found proof it's in the ocean.

Even if it were found to be a hijacking, it seems to me that it would have had to be executed as an extremely well planned & funded effort by terrorists. Terrorists place no value whatsoever on human life so I still don't see any hope of survival for the innocent.
JMO

 

[costalpilot]

Can you use these numbers?


Mr. Hansford pointed to the amount of fuel likely on board the Boeing 777-200, at nearly full capacity with 31,000 gallons instead of the 45 per cent loading required to pilot a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, as being a strong indicator that MH370's disappearance was not accidental.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tion-search-debris-resumes.html#ixzz2wnHDUGUA

I dont know where this expert got his inormation that the fuel load was in fact nearly full. If anyone has a link that points to an official release which gives the figures, I would like to see it.

in any case, this EXPERT apparently doesnt know that many flights tanker fuel from their country to another due to the difference in cost in the destination country. Maybe he does know that, and maybe he knows its not applicable in this instance.

or maybe hes just trying to make a case for his pet theory.

who knows.

 

[Prosecution_Rests]

Even if it were found to be a hijacking, it seems to me that it would have had to be executed as an extremely well planned & funded effort by terrorists. Terrorists place no value whatsoever on human life so I still don't see any hope of survival for the innocent.
JMO

Unfortunately, some of the Chinese think that an attempted hijacking automatically means that it's a bargaining type of situation. Nope. Not always the case.

Also, many American seem think if it is terrorism, some group has to take responsibility, this is also untrue. Not too many people stepped up right after the 9/11 attacks. If I am not mistaken, Bin Laden denied knowing anything about it, initially.

 

[JerseyGirl]

"Good night Malaysian three seven zero", was the last conversation in the transcript between the air traffic controller and the cockpit of the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 aircraft, the Transport Ministry said in a statement here today.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...en-zero-last-words-between-air-traffic-contro

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by NewsBreaker
NBC Nightly News ‏@nbcnightlynews 26m

NEW: Final words from #MH370 cockpit were "Goodnight Malaysian 3-7-0" not "alright, goodnight" as Malaysian authorities previously indicated

They came out Saturday night, early Sunday morning. iirc.

Retweeted by CCTVNEWS
James Chau ‏@jameschau Mar 30
#breakingnews My source: last words frm #MH370 was NOT "Alright, goodnight". BUT "Goodnight, Malaysian 370". Standard terminology @cctvnews

 

[Mom who cares]

Retweeted by NewsBreaker
NBC Nightly News ‏@nbcnightlynews 26m

NEW: Final words from #MH370 cockpit were "Goodnight Malaysian 3-7-0" not "alright, goodnight" as Malaysian authorities previously indicated

Good grief, that was wrong too?

 

[time]

Unfortunately, some of the Chinese think that an attempted hijacking automatically means that it's a bargaining type of situation. Nope. Not always the case.

Also, many American seem think if it is terrorism, some group has to take responsibility, this is also untrue. Not too many people stepped up right after the 9/11 attacks. If I am not mistaken, Bin Laden denied knowing anything about it, initially.

Thank you for saying this. And, even if we did not have prior examples, the plane could (obviously) have been hijacked for some other reason than ransom/bargaining and/or proclaiming responsibility.

 

[JerseyGirl]

They came out Saturday night, early Sunday morning. iirc.

Retweeted by CCTVNEWS
James Chau ‏@jameschau Mar 30
#breakingnews My source: last words frm #MH370 was NOT "Alright, goodnight". BUT "Goodnight, Malaysian 370". Standard terminology @cctvnews

"Goodnight, Malaysian 370" - sounds like Malaysia's ATC
"Alright, goodnight" - sounds like the co-pilot

eh, maybe not. They are totally discounting the "Alright, goodnight". Makes no sense.

It's not Malaysian Airlines, it's Malaysia Airlines! :banghead:

The last voice transmission from the cockpit of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 to air traffic control was "Good night Malaysian three seven zero," the Malaysian Transport Ministry said Monday.
http://www.kspr.com/news/nationworld/URGENT-Malaysia-Airlines-Final-Communication/21051646_25246618

He said this in response to questions about the last communication between the pilot and the ATC, which was said to have two different versions of transcripts.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/m-sia-to-release-mh370/1054750.html
bbm

 

[mck16]

What is the time they believe the plane crashed into the ocean? ty

 

[beth272]

It is only the pilots decision! He must sign off on it. All he would have to do is tell the guy that connects the hose to put in x I am anticpating headwinds, I am heavy tonight, could be some negative weather. A ground handler would never question the fuel order or a member of the flight crew!

So forgive my confusion 8:scared: so was the tank not full? Did it not carry enough to get to Beijing??