Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #2

[Elley Mae]

What if someone had a cell phone jammer on the plane to disable their phones.
What if that someone was able to turn off the transponder and disable phones.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_jammer"]Mobile phone jammer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[popsicle]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311

I just woke up... Found this article...sorry if it has been posted already...

Has pics of the stolen passport holders...

and more interesting information... IMO

:coffeews:

"Maybe somebody on the flight has bought a huge sum of insurance, who wants family to gain from it or somebody who has owed somebody so much money, you know, we are looking at all possibilities," Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu Bakar told a news conference.

"We are looking very closely at the video footage taken at the KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport), we are studying the behavioral pattern of all the passengers."

 

[Softail]

Tuesday, March 11, 05:29 PM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 12th Media Statement

This statement is in reference to the many queries on the alleged five (5) passengers who checked-in but did not board MH370 on 8 March 2014 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing despite having valid tickets to travel.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

 

[PrairieWind]

Credibility for you:

http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler...ysia-airlines-jet-moves-to-strait-of-malacca/

That sounds pretty solid. We will see if it changes. If that is true, and the planed turned and flew that far, but still with no transponder, that is even more strange. It seems odd to me that if there was a mechanical problem that was causing the pilots to try to return, that they couldn't communicate in some way. Or had the plane been hijacked, and the new inexperienced pilots have been trying to get back to Kuala Lumpor by crossing the peninsula and following the coast back down? Sort of like the 9-11 hijackers followed the Hudson to N.Y. But on 9-11 passengers were able to use air-phones to contact loved ones. Would that have been possible on this plane/route?

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/3637

what could this be?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

One other think that my mind keeps coming back to the fact that it was (1 minute) before entering Vietnam air space. And the hand off, to the ATC in Vietnam.(link below)bbm. I don't know why but that fact has surfaced in my mind enough to make mention of it. I don't know much about flying but plane as I understand them have all kinds of sensors and alarms and there was absolutely nothing from this plane, nothing, nodda, zilch, zero. And then it was gone.


The plane "lost all contact and radar signal one minute before it entered Vietnam's air traffic control," Lt. Gen. Vo Van Tuan, deputy chief of staff of the Vietnamese army, said in a statement issued by the government.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...ith-plane-carrying-23-people/?intcmp=obinsite

I agree that the timing is interesting...

:waitasec:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

I believe it is a ship.

IT seems to have many little parts though.. Not just one solid mass?

Thanks for looking? I have been staring at it for 10 mins..

 

[JerseyGirl]

Updated Map:

 

[catatonia]

Sometimes wonders do happen:

Juliane Diller (born 10 October 1954 in Lima as Juliane Margaret Koepcke) is a German biologist, born in Peru to German emigrants, who is best known for being the sole survivor of 93 passengers and crew in the 24 December 1971, crash of LANSA Flight 508 (a LANSA Lockheed Electra OB-R-941 commercial airliner) in the Peruvian rainforest. After her airliner broke up in midair, she survived after falling about 3 km (~10,000 feet) still strapped to her airliner seat, before the seat crashed through the rainforest canopy and came to rest on the forest floor.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke

As long as there is no counter evidence, I have still hope for survivors to be found.

 

[Elley Mae]

Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast: source

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311

Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

IS there a way to zoom in on the maps??

 

[belimom]

Have you guys seen this:

Missing Flight's Co-Pilot in Past Entertained Guests in Cockpit
South African Holidaymaker and Friend Sat and Chatted With Crew During Voyage

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia—The co-pilot of the Malaysia Airlines jetliner that has been missing since early on Saturday invited two female passengers into the cockpit on a previous flight, in a possible breach of security, one of the women said on Tuesday.

South African holidaymaker Jonti Roos said she sat with the co-pilot, Fariq Ab Hamid, and other members of the flight crew from takeoff to landing, and took photos with them while the plane was in the air.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...0001424052702304250204579432801672868982.html

 

[kimi_SFC]

Have you guys seen this:
Missing Flight's Co-Pilot in Past Entertained Guests in Cockpit
South African Holidaymaker and Friend Sat and Chatted With Crew During Voyage

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia—The co-pilot of the Malaysia Airlines jetliner that has been missing since early on Saturday invited two female passengers into the cockpit on a previous flight, in a possible breach of security, one of the women said on Tuesday.

South African holidaymaker Jonti Roos said she sat with the co-pilot, Fariq Ab Hamid, and other members of the flight crew from takeoff to landing, and took photos with them while the plane was in the air.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...672868982.html

The article is behind a paywall. Were you able to read it? If so, can you or someone else summarize any additional details besides what you were so kind to have posted here? :tyou: in advance

 

[belimom]

Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast: source

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311

Malaysia's military believes a jetliner missing for almost four days turned and flew hundreds of kilometers to the west after it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a senior officer told Reuters on Tuesday.

Seems like communication was shut off from the cockpit and they dropped the plane lower to avoid radar tracking from the airport. But, if pilot suicide, why not nosedive or just blow it up? If hijacking, how did they cut off the transponder? I can understand someone having weapons and ordering the pilots to do something, but even so, it seems like it would just take one little push of a button, or one shout or word into the radio, to let folks back home know there was an emergency.

So, would one of the pilots have hijacked the plane? Why? And where would they take it? The one pilot had been with the airline for decades; the other one for almost 7 yrs.

 

[belimom]

The article is behind a paywall. Were you able to read it? If so, can you or someone else summarize any additional details besides what you were so kind to have posted here? :tyou: in advance

I was able to read it... and I don't have a subscription.

 

[Scottndianner]

Tuesday, March 11, 05:29 PM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 12th Media Statement

This statement is in reference to the many queries on the alleged five (5) passengers who checked-in but did not board MH370 on 8 March 2014 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing despite having valid tickets to travel.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

Ok. So, we are not looking at 5 passengers that checked their baggage and never boarded. Instead, we have 4 passengers that purchased tickets and never showed up to the airport, therefore baggage was never checked..

We then have 2 passengers with stolen passports, that authorities first stated were Asian in appearance and most recently stating they looked like the famous Italian footballer = black guys. Now, we see that they are Persian and authorities claim at least one of them were seeking asylum, and they are not suspected as terrorists??

And finally, we have some playboy pilots that smoke in flight, and invite non-crew members into the cockpit?? :scared::scared:

Is it just me, or does this read like a horrible Hollywood script....I just don't know what to make of it...:banghead:

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

The article is behind a paywall. Were you able to read it? If so, can you or someone else summarize any additional details besides what you were so kind to have posted here? :tyou: in advance

Missing Jet: Woman Says Co-Pilot Once Let Her Sit In Cockpit

By Alastair Jamieson

A pilot aboard missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 once allowed passengers to sit in the cockpit during take-off and landing, a woman told an Australian TV show Tuesday.

Jonty Roos said that she and a friend were on vacation in Thailand when they were invited into to the flight deck by two pilots – one of whom she identified as Fariq bin Ab Hamid, the 27-year-old first officer on the missing Boeing 777...

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-woman-says-co-pilot-once-let-her-sit-n49651

 

[PrairieWind]

Ok. So, we are not looking at 5 passengers that checked their baggage and never boarded. Instead, we have 4 passengers that purchased tickets and never showed up to the airport, therefore baggage was never checked..

We then have 2 passengers with stolen passports, that authorities first stated were Asian in appearance and most recently stating they looked like the famous Italian footballer = black guys. Now, we see that they are Persian and authorities claim at least one of them were seeking asylum, and they are not suspected as terrorists??

And finally, we have some playboy pilots that smoke in flight, and invite non-crew members into the cockpit?? :scared::scared:

Is it just me, or does this read like a horrible Hollywood script....I just don't know what to make of it...:banghead:

Sounds like the script to an Airport movie.

 

[belimom]

I was able to read it... and I don't have a subscription.

Interesting - if I click on that link, I can't see it. But this works:

- Google 'jonti roos'
- scroll down for the WSJ link (there are others that don't seem as reputable, so I clicked on that one for an actual MSM link to paste here)

 

[Zuckerschnecke]

I am confused as to why the 2 using stolen passports are now thought not to be related to any terriost plot.

Per CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


If they had valid Iranian passports why use stolen ones to book their flight??

Someone probably mentioned it but the one guy's mother was waiting for him in Frankfurt, probably to come there and immigrate. It's believed they were moving to Europe and with an EU passport, they can move around anywhere. The one guy had an Italian stolen passport so with that, he can go anywhere in the EU, same with the guy with the Austrian passport. Very easy to move about there now.