Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #2

[Aviator]

I've flown on the 777 and the A330 - both are very good aircraft. The 777 has demonstrated twice that "IT" can fly it into terrain and it will not kill all of the souls onboard. Best example is BAW38, that landed short whereas the Asiana crash last year was pilot error. The death toll was 3, it should have been 1 but the fire crews accidentally hit two of the survivors.

I've just seen one of the passengers resembles Mario Balotteli. The media response to this is priceless. "He was not on Flight MH370 when it vanished Saturday somewhere over the South China Sea."

 

[Plumeria5]

The last pilot speaking on CNN, rather elderly, suggested the pilot might have got disoriented and simply drove the plane straight down into the water. Wasn't it suppose to be on auto pilot by then? That is reminiscent of JFK junior but his was a small aircraft. I don't think I buy that theory but I guess they have to cover all possibilities.

 

[popsicle]

"We are working....." I'm sorry - but they have an EXACT location and even photos - it has been many, many hours. Why can't they rule it in or out by now? Sorry...but I'm getting frustrated at the lack of information and l-o-n-g delays in getting things investigated!:banghead:

I agree. That is the reporter saying he is working...

 

[fraudqueen]

Where is this jet?

 

[sherbetjello]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JpbZZKqxy0"]Radar Playback of the Moment Malaysia Flight 370 Vanished! - YouTube[/ame]

Has this, or can this even be, discussed?

Sort of goes with a conspiracy, especially the follow up the poster has to this specific video.

I watched this in the morning and it's been with me the entire day.

(Hopefully I am not crossing a TOS anywhere. I haven't ever posted a youtube video!!)

https://www.facebook.com/flightradar24
<adding link to applications fb due to their explanation>

 

[Plumeria5]

Is there msm confirmation that the oil slick was not from the plane? I read it wasn't but wondered if that was confirmed.

 

[mom-a-licious]

The contact made by the pilot of the other aircraft to MH370 wreaks of Hypoxia due to a cabin pressure incident - I'm actually stunned that this pilot didn't recognize this.

He's been asked to relay comms due to loss of communication with ATC, he establishes a line with them and instead of the appropriate response of "yeh all is good, we'll find another frequency, thanks for checkin' on us!" - he hears nonsensical mumbling and no satisfactory response or attempt to re-establish a better line. Their behavior was clearly reflective of functional incapacity due to advanced hypoxia (which would have been just minutes at the most before complete loss of consciousness occurred).

Who's to say that when this happened, one of the crew hasn't slumped forward into the control column, disconnecting the auto pilot due to the application of the required force and deflection coupled with the cabin pressure emergency - sending the aicraft into its final dive...

I'd asked about this on the old thread, if this type of plane was capable of having the same sort of thing happen that happened on the Helios airways flight in 2005, where the pilots were incapacitated due to hypoxia, it had to do with a control for the air pressure (?) not being reset properly after maintenance...I wondered about this after hearing about the "mumbling", but not sure if the report of the other pilot contacting and hearing the mumbling s confirmed or not...at any rate is it possible on this type of airplane for that to happen? been reading about plane possibly turning off course, also makes me wonder about pilots confusion due to lack of oxygen being possibility...

 

[PrairieWind]

I'd asked about this on the old thread, if this type of plane was capable of having the same sort of thing happen that happened on the Helios airways flight in 2005, where the pilots were incapacitated due to hypoxia, it had to do with a control for the air pressure (?) not being reset properly after maintenance...I wondered about this after hearing about the "mumbling", but not sure if the report of the other pilot contacting and hearing the mumbling s confirmed or not...at any rate is it possible on this type of airplane for that to happen? been reading about plane possibly turning off course, also makes me wonder about pilots confusion due to lack of oxygen being possibility...

The reason I don't buy the Hypoxia argument is that the transponder goes off. That shouldn't have happened if the crew was just incapacitated. Should have been able to track the plane to where ever it ended up.

 

[Isabelle]

Radar Playback of the Moment Malaysia Flight 370 Vanished! - YouTube

Has this, or can this even be, discussed?

Sort of goes with a conspiracy, especially the follow up the poster has to this specific video.

I watched this in the morning and it's been with me the entire day.

(Hopefully I am not crossing a TOS anywhere. I haven't ever posted a youtube video!!)

When watching the video earlier, one without narrative, I noticed the one plane move very rapidly. Not a clue why though.

 

[Softail]

Is there msm confirmation that the oil slick was not from the plane? I read it wasn't but wondered if that was confirmed.

Yes. Oil is Not from the plane.

Real-time flight trackers seek missing Malaysian Air flight 370, find only holes

Officials investigating the disappearance of the flight have been targeting the South China Sea, where oil slicks were spotted by rescue crews but ultimately determined not to belong to the aircraft.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/03...ing-malaysian-air-flight-370-find-only-holes/

 

[TopTop]

I'd asked about this on the old thread, if this type of plane was capable of having the same sort of thing happen that happened on the Helios airways flight in 2005, where the pilots were incapacitated due to hypoxia, it had to do with a control for the air pressure (?) not being reset properly after maintenance...I wondered about this after hearing about the "mumbling", but not sure if the report of the other pilot contacting and hearing the mumbling s confirmed or not...at any rate is it possible on this type of airplane for that to happen? been reading about plane possibly turning off course, also makes me wonder about pilots confusion due to lack of oxygen being possibility...

The Helios flight flew for a long time prior to crashing into a mountain. So long that they were able to send planes to fly along side and have a look at the passengers and crew. This one disappeared instantly.

 

[Yoda]

Just got the email.
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014?source=malaysia

Sorry- tomnod is satellite images of the area. You tag anything that looks unusual.

 

[sherbetjello]

Tomnod just sent out their search email.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014?source=malaysia

 

[popsicle]

Jon Ostrower &#8207;@jonostrower https://twitter.com/WSJAsia/malaysia-airlines-flight/
It's very troubling and truly confounding that we know virtually as little about #MH370 as we did on Friday night.

 

[zwiebel]

So the search is being extended now, and it was a military radar that tracked the plane turning around, though it's not known why 'military' were tracking the plane? Is that correct? I'm not surprised there should be miltary/intelligence tracking of aircraft in that region, myself.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26513506

 

[belimom]

Sorry - been gone all day from this thread so I may have missed it. Has it been discussed yet that the tickets were purchased with cash?

According to Thai police officials, an Iranian man by the name of Kazem Ali purchased the tickets for two friends who he said wanted to return home to Europe. While Ali made the initial booking by telephone, either Ali or someone acting on his behalf paid for the tickets in cash, according to police.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/10/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[zwiebel]

Tomnod just sent out their search email.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014?source=malaysia

I can't figure out how this works - could it be because I'm on an ipad?

 

[zwiebel]

I can't figure out how this works - could it be because I'm on an ipad?

Quoting myself, No, it is just me. I can't do maps well at all. I have passed the link to someone who can though, to make up for my lack.

 

[sherbetjello]

Anyone else searching tomnod dealing with a map at 349AM in the morning? My entire screen is BLACK, so I doubt this is helping here.

 

[Intermezzo]

So the search is being extended now, and it was a military radar that tracked the plane turning around, though it's not known why 'military' were tracking the plane? Is that correct? I'm not surprised there should be miltary/intelligence tracking of aircraft in that region, myself.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26513506

I have been following the disappearance since it began...and it is even more puzzling today after just listening to the news

I just heard on the news that they believe the "turn" was part of the flight path, they no longer mention turn around but just a turn.

I heard military radar as well..but not sure which country's military radar..could it be Malaysia Military?

Latest news is that what they believed to be an oil slick is not an oil slick from the plane
The debris they thought was from the plane is not.

That the individuals with stolen passports had purchased 1 way ticket and had onward tickets to Europe

No distress call(s), the plane vanished from the radars..

I have thoughts that the crew and passengers were overcome by fumes or gases, that the plane was not on auto pilot and it plunged straight down into the ocean

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