Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #2

[alwaysonmymind]

I tried it again and it's working for me. It's slow to load.


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[Hopeful One]

I have spent the entire morning reading every single post since this began as I just learned about it when I woke up today (being at my daughter's volleyball tournament all weekend is apparently akin to having fallen off the face of the planet for a couple days).

I have nothing useful to add but I wanted to thank all of the posters here who have shared first-hand knowledge of things pertinent to this situation. I can't even begin to explain how much it helps. Once again, Websleuths is proven (to me anyway) to be the best source for the most up-to-date and accurate information on current happenings.

:blowkiss:

 

[Yoda]

One of the men with stolen passport identified. They didn't say who he was though.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-jet-Man-with-stolen-passport-identified.html

 

[JerseyGirl]

Malaysia Airlines asked airports around the world to beef up security screening for passengers on its flights...

one extra x-ray screening of bags for Malaysia Airlines passengers was in place at Auckland Airport.

Malaysia Airlines initially denied that it requested heightened security measures for its passengers, suggesting the Malaysian Government might have been responsible for the request. "The airline does not have the authority to order an airport [to implement security measures]," said spokeswoman Malini Saudranrajan.

However, the airline later backtracked on the response, admitting all airports it flew to had been asked to increase security. "Yes, it is a normal practice in the case of a crisis. Request sent to all airports that we operate in and out of," Ms Saudranrajan said.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11217341

 

[Hopeful One]

Can anyone share a link to the report of the "nonsenical mumbling" that was heard? I know I read it earlier but now my brain is overflowing and I can't seem to find a link.

Also, do we know for sure that the luggage that was checked by passengers who didn't board the plane actually made it onto the plane? I seem to remember reading it did NOT and then that it did.

 

[JerseyGirl]

A Malaysian Airlines representative was pelted with water bottles and called a liar at a briefing, while Chinese officials were also greeted with abuse and shouted questions.

In an attempt to calm the situation, Malaysia Airlines has offered to give the relatives of the passengers 31,000 yuan (£3,100) each. It's not compensation, they say, but a gesture.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-jet-Man-with-stolen-passport-identified.html

bbm

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

Its just amazing that with as much traffic as there is in that area that no one has found anything yet. If terrorists, why no claim of responsibility?

As I said in the previous thread, there is not always a claim of responsibility after a terrorist act. Lockerbie was over 20 years. 9/11 wasn't claimed immediately, and the OBL video was 2004. And sometimes terror groups claim responsibility for things they didn't do.

 

[JerseyGirl]

DCA has confirmed that search and rescue teams from Australia, China, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, Philippines, New Zealand and the United States of America have come forward to assist.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8561423.html

 

[alwaysonmymind]

As I said in the previous thread, there is not always a claim of responsibility after a terrorist act. Lockerbie was over 20 years. 9/11 wasn't claimed immediately, and the OBL video was 2004. And sometimes terror groups claim responsibility for things they didn't do.

Good points Wolf Dreamer.

Also, if this is an act of terrorism, the group may have other 'acts' planned. These plans could be jeopardized by 'outing' themselves prematurely. moo


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[JerseyGirl]

Malaysia is investigating five people who checked in to fly but didn't show up at the gate to board.

Malaysia hasn't disclosed details about the five people, who haven't contacted media with their stories about why they skipped Flight MH370 to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

The five people checked in individually, a Malaysia government official told The Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...0001424052702304020104579430813560058226.html

...the passengers' bags were removed from the plane. The bags previously had been scanned by airport police, who didn't find anything unusual.

bbm

 

[JerseyGirl]

A shadowy group called the Chinese Martyrs’ Brigade has claimed responsibility for the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 — but officials were skeptical and said the claim could be a hoax.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/10/chinese-group-claims-plane-disappearance-amid-parallels-to-lockerbie/

The group – unheard of before now – on Sunday sent an email to journalists across China that read:
“You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as pay back,” but the message provided no details of what brought the flight down.

Other officials said the claim could be a hoax aimed at increasing ethnic tensions between Uighurs and Han Chinese in the wake of the recent knife attacks at in the southwestern city of Kunming on March 1 that left 29 people dead and injured about 140 others.

The message was delivered through an encrypted Hushmail anonymous service that is virtually impossible to trace, they said.

http://nypost.com/2014/03/10/pair-with-stolen-passports-on-missing-jet-got-tickets-from-mr-ali/

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Taiwan authorities have said they received information about a possible terrorist attack on Beijing’s airport just four days before the Malaysian flight disappeared. They believe it is unrelated but are still investigating.

http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/10/...rist-attack-in-beijing-days-before-malaysia-/

 

[Isabelle]

Malaysia is investigating five people who checked in to fly but didn't show up at the gate to board.

Malaysia hasn't disclosed details about the five people, who haven't contacted media with their stories about why they skipped Flight MH370 to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

The five people checked in individually, a Malaysia government official told The Wall Street Journal.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...0001424052702304020104579430813560058226.html

...the passengers' bags were removed from the plane. The bags previously had been scanned by airport police, who didn't find anything unusual.

bbm

That's just so strange!

 

[catatonia]

I remember reading about this a while ago:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/11/tech/mobile/phone-hijack-plane/

 

[Ragamuffin]

I had the weirdest dream last night that somehow an EMP was used. That's why all the electronics went at once.

I know that's ridiculous, but this morning I've been wondering what an EMP would do to a plane? Do they even exist or is it just something I've seen in movies?

Could a lightning strike disrupt the electronics that much?

Please excuse my ignorance.

 

[Wolf Dreamer]

From what I can work out, these are the only things that are actually confirmed:

Transponder stopped after 17:21 UTC (01:21 Malay time), about 40 minutes into the flight
No confirmed comms with the plane after this (the mumbling wasn't confirmed last I saw)
FlightRadar24 has the last correct position/speed
The weather was ok
ACARS was working but nothing was broadcast to indicate a problem
The plane still had over 6 hours of fuel left
There were two passengers with stolen identities on board
No civilian radar picked the plane up after the transponder stopped; not being confirmed re military radar
Two other planes were in the area at the time and neither saw anything

And

no-one has any idea where the plane is... :banghead:

 

[Plumeria5]

Mary Schiavo, former Inspector General of the United States Department of Transportation, on CNN was quite informative and has made the most sense to me. Trial terror run would be a good reason no one has accepted responsibility. Can we get a transcript of what she said?

 

[Hopeful One]

From what I can work out, these are the only things that are actually confirmed:

Transponder stopped after 17:21 UTC (01:21 Malay time), about 40 minutes into the flight
No confirmed comms with the plane after this (the mumbling wasn't confirmed last I saw)
FlightRadar24 has the last correct position/speed
The weather was ok
ACARS was working but nothing was broadcast to indicate a problem
The plane still had over 6 hours of fuel left
There were two passengers with stolen identities on board
No civilian radar picked the plane up after the transponder stopped; not being confirmed re military radar
Two other planes were in the area at the time and neither saw anything

And

no-one has any idea where the plane is... :banghead:

Thanks for this!!!

It's cases like these (so many changing stories, false reports, etc.) that I wish there was a way to keep track of only confirmed information in an up-to-the-minute fashion. Pretty much impossible I'm sure but posts like yours are very helpful.

 

[Hopeful One]

Tickets linked to stolen passports for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 were purchased by an Iranian man, authorities say.

At least two people on board the plane were traveling on passports stolen from an Austrian and an Italian.

According to Thai police officials, an Iranian man by the name of Kazem Ali purchased the tickets for two friends who he said wanted to return home to Europe. While Ali made the initial booking by telephone, either Ali or someone acting on his behalf paid for the tickets in cash, according to police.

http://www.cnn.com

 

[popsicle]

CNN is devoting an hour to this, now.

 

[Plumeria5]

One of the men with stolen passport identified. They didn't say who he was though.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-jet-Man-with-stolen-passport-identified.html

Who's Mario Balotelli?

"We have looked at the footage of the video and the photographs – it is confirmed now that they are not Asian-looking males," he said. "Do you know what he [Mario Balotelli] looks like?" he asked reporters.